Why Liberalism Must Be Expunged.

[PoliticalChic]

"Actually the nation was created on slavery,..."

Actually, it wasn't.

It was created based on this:
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Jefferson.

Maybe you didn't notice. Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner. So keep quoting the slave owner saying all men should be free.

Perhaps we can judge men based on the times in which they lived.

So, let's see who contemporary icons are:

Maybe you never learned that the demigod of the Democrats, Franklin Delano Roosevelt hated blacks, Jews and Asians.


Challenge me to prove that.

 

[postman]

Simple enough to prove it a lie and you a moron:

Since their acolytes cannot deny that that the inception of the Republican Party was motivated by a hatred of slavery and segregation, while the Democrats were the party of Jim Crow laws and the KKK, they claim that circa 1960, while the Democrats suddenly had an epiphany, and saw the error of their ways.....the Republicans suddenly developed a hatred of blacks and a desire for segregation..

Look at who elected black people to congress. Prior to the 1960's virtually every black politician was a republican. The 60's (that's 1960's not 1860's) saw a complete reversal.

Today the republican black causus has maybe 1 or 2 people in it, whereas that's what the democratic black caucus of the early 60's looked like.

 

[postman]

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:

How about posting a sworn criminal complain from any of them?

Tic-Toc

 

[postman]

Perhaps we can judge men based on the times in which they lived.
.

Keep quoting the save owning Thomas Jefferson, and claiming he didn't write slavery into the Constitution.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I note that you didn't deny what I posted, that the Left's media allies tried to hide the fact that Liberal is associated with socialist, communist, fascist.....RED.

That's because you cherry picked the article, and left out how the northern "union" aka democratic states were traditionally BLUE, and the southern "confederate" aka republican states were traditionally RED.

You need more of a spanking?

Sure.


"Pre 2000

Consistent with international usage, until quite recently conservative groups in the United States were affiliated with blue, and left-leaning groups were designated red.
So well-accepted were these denominations that following the Bolshevik Russian Revolution of 1917, and then again during the 1950s when Senator Joseph McCarthy conducted a witch hunt against supposed American communists, these events were known as the 1st and 2nd Red Scare- times when the “right” were “scared out of their wits”, according to two time Pulitzer Prize winner Walter Lippmann (who incidentally was the first to outline the concept of the “Cold War”, as well as introduced the modern psychological definition of “stereotype”, which previous to his usage was primarily a printing press term for a duplicating printing plate).

Red remained a pejorative in American political discourse throughout much of the 20th century because of its association with communism, and neither party would voluntarily associate with it.”
The Origin of the Red State/Blue State Dichotomy

 

[PoliticalChic]

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:

How about posting a sworn criminal complain from any of them?

Tic-Toc

“And if NBC now thinks my experience has been ‘discredited,'” Broaddrick continued, “why would Andrea Mitchell call me to ask me for any new information about my encounter with Hillary after the assault? And why wouldn’t Andrea Mitchell have written her own news story explaining exactly how I’ve been discredited? Lisa Myers actually warned me about Andrea. Andrea is obviously mad at me for exposing her rudeness and bias when she called me this year. I think being a lapdog for Hillary Clinton discredits Andrea Mitchell and NBC as journalists!”

.... on what basis is she calling it discredited? On the contrary, Broaddrick’s allegation is arguably the most consistent and believable accusation of sexual assault made against Bill Clinton (though not, of course, the only one). For a little perspective here, note that even progressive site Vox says the allegation, ‘has not been definitively refuted.’ Vox also notes that reporter Michael Isikoff’s book contains a reference to a concession by Clinton’s lawyers that he may have had ‘consensual sex’ with Broaddrick.”

The case presented some worrying issues to even those like Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, “no friend of conservatives,” wrote Jakcson.

“Cohen … remained troubled by Juanita Broaddrick’s story. ‘Is it possible the president’s a rapist? Am I supposed not to care?’ Cohen wondered.”
Clinton rape accuser blasts ‘biased’ NBC anchor

 

[postman]

You need more of a spanking?

Sure.


"Pre 2000

You need more ass kicking? Here's a map from 1918

"http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/53b1bb0b69beddaf1a27e977-1200-587/1918.gif"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Expunge liberalism and you expunge progress and advancement in our society.

"Expunge liberalism and you expunge progress and advancement in our society."

OMG!!!!!


You couldn't be more wrong.
You could try, but you couldn't reach this level of error.

1. John Holdren- Obama picked him to be ‘Science Czar’- Did the President’s Nominee for Science Advisor Say He Thinks A Billion People Are Gonna Die?
   1. Need further indicia of the mental outlook of this President Obama pick? “John P. Holdren’s advocacy for a global planetary regime to enforce forced abortion, government `seizure of children born out of wedlock, and mandatory bodily implants designed to prevent pregnancy, Obama’s top advisor also called for,”Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods.” Holdren notes that the proposal to forcibly mass sterilize the public against their will “seems to horrify people” and yet it doesn’t seem to bother him too much. Ehrlich, Ehrlich, and Holdren, “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment,” http://www.as.wvu.edu/biology/bio463/EHLRICH1.PDF
2. “Republicans are more scientifically literate than Democrats or independents are”…with respect to belief in astrology, the need for control groups, probability, antibiotics, exposure to radioactivity….Check out the list at The Audacious Epigone: Republicans are more scientifically literate than Democrats or independents are
   

 

[postman]

.... on what basis is she calling it discredited? On the contrary, Broaddrick’s allegation is arguably the most consistent and believable accusation of sexual assault made against Bill Clinton (though not, of course, the only one).

You still haven't found a "criminal complaint" from the accuser? Yet you still make a criminal accusation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Expunge liberalism and you expunge progress and advancement in our society.

Only towards more liberalism.

It is because of liberalism that we have the rights we have and the protections that we have.

Ah....no.


1. Which represents the Founders of America?
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
or
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. This would be a fine occasion to remind all that the above charge: "They had nothing in common other than the government’s view that federal power is virtually unlimited"... President Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations Of 2013

....exactly the hallmark of every totalitarian political view:

Communism, Nazism, Liberalism, socialism, Progressivism, and fascism.

 

[postman]

Let's use your level of "accusation proof", Trump has at least two federal court accusations of child rape against him. And another district court accusation of rape.

Am I entitled to call Trump a rapist and a pedophile?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So was the birth of the United States a liberal or conservative movement?

1. Which represents the Founders of America?
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
or
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.




2. This would be a fine occasion to remind all that the above charge: "They had nothing in common other than the government’s view that federal power is virtually unlimited"... President Obama's Top 10 Constitutional Violations Of 2013

....exactly the hallmark of every totalitarian political view:

Communism, Nazism, Liberalism, socialism, Progressivism, and fascism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So was the birth of the United States a liberal or conservative movement?

I think it was a liberal movement.

"I think it was a liberal movement."

Please refrain from the use of the first two words in your post....fact not in evidence.

 

[postman]

1. Which represents the Founders of America?
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.
or
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

Actually a mix of both. They engrained slavery into the Constitution, along with congress controlling interstate commerce, the military and overseeing all foreign and domestic affairs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is a rule which is the hermeneutical key to understanding how the Left differs, in a most deleterious way, from the right:

The Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.



1. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.

The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

Leftists believe that an end to social and economic inequality and one will have Utopia! Dennis Prager, ”Still The Best Hope”



2. Claims of 'racism' are linked to demands for increased minimum wage laws by this view of the world.
No matter that it has been tried, and not only failed, failed miserably, but resulted in well over 100 million human beings slaughtered.




3. And, more bad news for the Left from the LA Times:
"Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice

California’s minimum wage jumped to $10.50 an hour at the start of the new year. As the founder of a small fashion design house and clothing manufacturer in San Fernando, I’m not a disinterested observer in this change.

After two years in business, my company now has more than 150 clients from all over the world and 18 employees. It’s what’s known as a cut-and-sew house, part of the garment industry that generates about $17 billion in annual economic activity in Los Angeles County, including $6.9 billion in payroll, according to a 2016 industry report by the California Fashion Assn. This is the epicenter of apparel design and manufacturing in the United States; domestically manufactured clothing is more expensive, but retail and wholesale customers who care about quality and working conditions have historically been willing to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the industry is on a downward trend. Los Angeles County used to have more than 5,000 apparel factories; today, my company is one of roughly 2,000 — and many (e.g. American Apparel) are looking for a way out. One Los Angeles Times headline, quoting a California State University economist, warned that “the exodus has begun."


If not for the $15 minimum wage, I’d have zero interest in leaving California."
Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice



Did I mention that the Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.

Think about that.

I totally agree with you PC, when you understand liberal equality, it always ends in misery. Bread lines in the old Soviet Union where Doctors and Bread makers were paid the same, so soon, Doctors had to have a gun put to their heads so they would work, yet even bread makers started walking away. There WEREN'T too many people jumping over the wall to get into Mother Russia, but plenty of Russians were leaving for Capitalism and the west. Venezuela which has more oil than Saudi Arabia and a gold mine to make all the citizens there very wealthy, are being held up by corrupt politicians and drug cartels, so the people there starve. Yes, liberalism is all about equality, where everyone is equally poor, and equally miserable, that is liberalism in a nutshell.

(only ones who have the money are the liberal elites who steal the money from their citizens).

You could very easily used the bread-lines from the our own Great Depression.
There may well be some Americans still alive that remember not only the bread lines but the Hoovervilles as well. They also might remember the election of FDR, as the Historians remember, the election of the greatest American president.

Speaking of 'bread lines'.....let's remind all of the wonders of FDR's response to the downturn:

Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression

 

[postman]

Please refrain from the use of the first two words in your post....fact not in evidence.

Ditto

the rapist, Bill Clinton?

 

[PoliticalChic]

.... on what basis is she calling it discredited? On the contrary, Broaddrick’s allegation is arguably the most consistent and believable accusation of sexual assault made against Bill Clinton (though not, of course, the only one).

You still haven't found a "criminal complaint" from the accuser? Yet you still make a criminal accusation.

So glad you've included yourself in those supporting a rapist:

When any Liberal/Progressive/Democrat bootlicker is presented with the list of Bill Clintons rape and sexual misbehaviors, the knee-jerk response of the jerk is the expected: "But...but (sputter- sputter) he was never convicted in any court of law!!


This, of course, is a prime example of sophistry, the use of fallacious arguments, with the intention of deceiving. (i.e., the jerk is a liar.)


This is not a court of law, and the argument does not end with a jail sentence....sadly.

It is the court of real world experience, and is based on one's judgment based on their experience and knowledge, and, especially, the past behavior of the individual in question.
The type of verdict demanded does not require that of a court, it is the court of public opinion.

1. Based on Clinton's history, is the charge that he refused to acknowledge his prey's refusal for sexual intercourse...possible or impossible?

.......probable or improbable?

.....exceptional or expected?


2. Has he been shown to be a liar? Yes, in fact in a court of law.
The answer is clear.

"Bill 'the rapist' Clinton" is an accurate description.



3. The same procedure should be used to examine as to whether charges would even be brought against one of his lofty political stature...and political party.


That question requires even less effort to answer.....as it has been answered previously, in an even more serious matter: responsibility in the death of a young woman.

I refer to "The Liberal Lion," Ted Kennedy.



4. An auxiliary question might be 'what type of individual would support rapists and murderers as mentioned above'?

This, too, is an easy question to answer.

A low-life dirt eating snake.....i.e., you.



5. Oh.....need I bring up the rapist's many trips to Epstein's 'Sex Slave island'?
"Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known"
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known

 

[Moonglow]

Here is a rule which is the hermeneutical key to understanding how the Left differs, in a most deleterious way, from the right:

The Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.



1. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real.

The Left’s concept of materialism broadens into the overarching desire to see every individual materially equal. The Left is less interested in creating wealth than in distributing it, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.

Leftists believe that an end to social and economic inequality and one will have Utopia! Dennis Prager, ”Still The Best Hope”



2. Claims of 'racism' are linked to demands for increased minimum wage laws by this view of the world.
No matter that it has been tried, and not only failed, failed miserably, but resulted in well over 100 million human beings slaughtered.




3. And, more bad news for the Left from the LA Times:
"Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice

California’s minimum wage jumped to $10.50 an hour at the start of the new year. As the founder of a small fashion design house and clothing manufacturer in San Fernando, I’m not a disinterested observer in this change.

After two years in business, my company now has more than 150 clients from all over the world and 18 employees. It’s what’s known as a cut-and-sew house, part of the garment industry that generates about $17 billion in annual economic activity in Los Angeles County, including $6.9 billion in payroll, according to a 2016 industry report by the California Fashion Assn. This is the epicenter of apparel design and manufacturing in the United States; domestically manufactured clothing is more expensive, but retail and wholesale customers who care about quality and working conditions have historically been willing to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the industry is on a downward trend. Los Angeles County used to have more than 5,000 apparel factories; today, my company is one of roughly 2,000 — and many (e.g. American Apparel) are looking for a way out. One Los Angeles Times headline, quoting a California State University economist, warned that “the exodus has begun."


If not for the $15 minimum wage, I’d have zero interest in leaving California."
Leaving for Las Vegas: California's minimum wage law leaves businesses no choice



Did I mention that the Left does not value prosperity....it values equality.

Think about that.

I totally agree with you PC, when you understand liberal equality, it always ends in misery. Bread lines in the old Soviet Union where Doctors and Bread makers were paid the same, so soon, Doctors had to have a gun put to their heads so they would work, yet even bread makers started walking away. There WEREN'T too many people jumping over the wall to get into Mother Russia, but plenty of Russians were leaving for Capitalism and the west. Venezuela which has more oil than Saudi Arabia and a gold mine to make all the citizens there very wealthy, are being held up by corrupt politicians and drug cartels, so the people there starve. Yes, liberalism is all about equality, where everyone is equally poor, and equally miserable, that is liberalism in a nutshell.

(only ones who have the money are the liberal elites who steal the money from their citizens).

You could very easily used the bread-lines from the our own Great Depression.
There may well be some Americans still alive that remember not only the bread lines but the Hoovervilles as well. They also might remember the election of FDR, as the Historians remember, the election of the greatest American president.

Speaking of 'bread lines'.....let's remind all of the wonders of FDR's response to the downturn:

Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression

FDR tried a no deficit budget in 1938...Yet industry did not respond..

 

[postman]

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"

Cherry picking, since instead of using eight years, why not look at 4 years, or 5 years or 6 years later, because the lines were much shorter under FDR, until Roosevelt listened to the republican in congress and stopped the "stimulus", which reenergized the depression. Before that unemployment was going down.

Facts are not your friend, especially when you have to cherry pick a specific year that the trend was reversed, without explaining WHY.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Please refrain from the use of the first two words in your post....fact not in evidence.

Ditto

the rapist, Bill Clinton?

Bill Clinton....not just a rapist....but a life-long racist as well.


Still afraid to challenge that assertion?

We both know why.