Why Liberals Hate Free Speech

WHY REPUBLICANS HATE LIBERALS.

Republicans think they are better than everyone else and Liberals prove that isn't so.
 
Right winger....right....that's why Hitler was head of the National Socialists



I challenge you to answer these questions:

Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism


That's right: every one, a Left-wing doctrine!!!



How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.



In your face, you dolt.....
1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?.....Socialist governments like Communist China, the former Soviet Republic, and North Korea
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?.....any form of government in use by big countries
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?....any government or opposition that employs those measures, including Theocratic, Nationalist, or Socialist governments in military conflict.
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?...Theocratic and Socialist governments focus on the collective, and secular governments tend to focus on individuals
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....no correlation.
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?...no correlation
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?...Theocracies.
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life...Theocracies

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?...
Theocracies and Totalitarian governments

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”.......Theocracies and Totalitarian governments



You seem to go out of your way to "misunderstand."

Example...
"1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?.....Socialist governments like Communist China, the former Soviet Republic, and North Korea"

The query referred ONLY to communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism.


To characterize your response: 'That was quite possibly the most poorly thought out response I've seen, maybe ever, on this site.'
What you've done here...is ask a series of questions, with limited answers.

Do you not see the problem with all that?


What I've done is provide an exercise the result of which proves that the basis of communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism is, very much, identical.

That was my point, and I accomplished same.


Proving that you would not address same in an honest manner was a bonus.
Then why even ask questions?

Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Nazism, Democracies, Dictatorships, Theocracies, and Socialism are forms of government.

Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism are ways in which political parties lean within each one of those forms of government.

You're conflating them...ala Glenn Beck style.

And why not...historical revisionism helps accomplish that


"You're conflating them..."

No...as the 'quiz' proves....I'm revealing the truth about them.

That's why you are afraid to respond to same in an above board manner.


I expected no more.
 
Was General MacArthur a commie pinko fascist when he said, "For the framers of the Constitution were the liberal thinkers of all ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."


Clearly, he was incorrect....if he referred to Modern Liberals...the name John Dewey applied to the Socialists.

The Framers were Classical Liberals, known today as conservatives, who created a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now, just to see if you understand this.....communism, fascism, modern liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, and socialism....
....which of them are based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?


You're not afraid to answer....
...are you?
You have it backwards.

The framers were classical liberals.

People who call themselves conservatives today, are NOT classical liberals
 
dears, that cannot be true; some on the left believe women should merely bear true witness to us and fornicate us into relationships, simply for the sake of honesty as a moral in modern times.
 
1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?.....Socialist governments like Communist China, the former Soviet Republic, and North Korea
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?.....any form of government in use by big countries
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?....any government or opposition that employs those measures, including Theocratic, Nationalist, or Socialist governments in military conflict.
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?...Theocratic and Socialist governments focus on the collective, and secular governments tend to focus on individuals
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....no correlation.
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?...no correlation
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?...Theocracies.
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life...Theocracies

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?...
Theocracies and Totalitarian governments

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”.......Theocracies and Totalitarian governments



You seem to go out of your way to "misunderstand."

Example...
"1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?.....Socialist governments like Communist China, the former Soviet Republic, and North Korea"

The query referred ONLY to communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism.


To characterize your response: 'That was quite possibly the most poorly thought out response I've seen, maybe ever, on this site.'
What you've done here...is ask a series of questions, with limited answers.

Do you not see the problem with all that?


What I've done is provide an exercise the result of which proves that the basis of communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism is, very much, identical.

That was my point, and I accomplished same.


Proving that you would not address same in an honest manner was a bonus.
Then why even ask questions?

Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Nazism, Democracies, Dictatorships, Theocracies, and Socialism are forms of government.

Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism are ways in which political parties lean within each one of those forms of government.

You're conflating them...ala Glenn Beck style.

And why not...historical revisionism helps accomplish that


"You're conflating them..."

No...as the 'quiz' proves....I'm revealing the truth about them.

That's why you are afraid to respond to same in an above board manner.


I expected no more.
A "quiz" with questions and a limited number of answers is not a quiz. It's a multiple choice trap

By answering the questions using only your answers, it prevents one from answering all of them correctly.

You really don't see that...do you...
 
WHY REPUBLICANS HATE LIBERALS.

Republicans think they are better than everyone else and Liberals prove that isn't so.



Perhaps you'd care to address the question.....what is the problem with a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?


And, yes...I do believe I'm better than those who believe in the opposite...collectivism, a command and control economy, and unlimited power in the hands of the government.
 
You seem to go out of your way to "misunderstand."

Example...
"1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?.....Socialist governments like Communist China, the former Soviet Republic, and North Korea"

The query referred ONLY to communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism.


To characterize your response: 'That was quite possibly the most poorly thought out response I've seen, maybe ever, on this site.'
What you've done here...is ask a series of questions, with limited answers.

Do you not see the problem with all that?


What I've done is provide an exercise the result of which proves that the basis of communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism is, very much, identical.

That was my point, and I accomplished same.


Proving that you would not address same in an honest manner was a bonus.
Then why even ask questions?

Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Nazism, Democracies, Dictatorships, Theocracies, and Socialism are forms of government.

Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism are ways in which political parties lean within each one of those forms of government.

You're conflating them...ala Glenn Beck style.

And why not...historical revisionism helps accomplish that


"You're conflating them..."

No...as the 'quiz' proves....I'm revealing the truth about them.

That's why you are afraid to respond to same in an above board manner.


I expected no more.
A "quiz" with questions and a limited number of answers is not a quiz.

By answering the questions using only your answers, it prevents one from answering all of them correctly.

You really don't see that...do you...



I didn't limit he answers.
 
What you've done here...is ask a series of questions, with limited answers.

Do you not see the problem with all that?


What I've done is provide an exercise the result of which proves that the basis of communism, fascism, Liberalism, Progressivism, socialism, Nazism is, very much, identical.

That was my point, and I accomplished same.


Proving that you would not address same in an honest manner was a bonus.
Then why even ask questions?

Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Nazism, Democracies, Dictatorships, Theocracies, and Socialism are forms of government.

Liberalism, Libertarianism, and Conservatism are ways in which political parties lean within each one of those forms of government.

You're conflating them...ala Glenn Beck style.

And why not...historical revisionism helps accomplish that


"You're conflating them..."

No...as the 'quiz' proves....I'm revealing the truth about them.

That's why you are afraid to respond to same in an above board manner.


I expected no more.
A "quiz" with questions and a limited number of answers is not a quiz.

By answering the questions using only your answers, it prevents one from answering all of them correctly.

You really don't see that...do you...



I didn't limit he answers.
You've limited what you think are correct responses.

The responses you've decided are correct, are NOT correct
 
Was General MacArthur a commie pinko fascist when he said, "For the framers of the Constitution were the liberal thinkers of all ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."


Clearly, he was incorrect....if he referred to Modern Liberals...the name John Dewey applied to the Socialists.

The Framers were Classical Liberals, known today as conservatives, who created a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now, just to see if you understand this.....communism, fascism, modern liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, and socialism....
....which of them are based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?


You're not afraid to answer....
...are you?
Liberalism.
 
Liberalism, where even nice girls can simply walk up to us and ask us for a free sample, just to get to know us better in modern times.
 
Was General MacArthur a commie pinko fascist when he said, "For the framers of the Constitution were the liberal thinkers of all ages and the charter they produced out of the liberal revolution of their time has never been and is not now surpassed in liberal thought."


Clearly, he was incorrect....if he referred to Modern Liberals...the name John Dewey applied to the Socialists.

The Framers were Classical Liberals, known today as conservatives, who created a nation based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now, just to see if you understand this.....communism, fascism, modern liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, and socialism....
....which of them are based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?


You're not afraid to answer....
...are you?
Liberalism.
Also progressivism and socialism (always democratic, NOT COMMUNISM, hater dupes).
 
Do you expect anyone to check out all those links?

I gotta admit, it's a nice collection
They're all from and about intellectually honest liberals who admit the regressive left has gone too far.

And I'd be stunned if any regressive leftists read them, for obvious reasons.
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I'm from Northern California and was born in 1964. This is/was ground zero for the hippie 60's revolution. I've seen all the good and bad that came from it.

At first...the repressive post WWII "June and Ward Clever" or "Ozzy and Harriet" way of life was leaving too many people out, as all manner of diversity couldn't prosper within it.

So the 60's brought about a much less repressive and puritanical way of life here.

By the 70's, the hippies started realizing that they needed jobs, police protection, and the druggies either overdosed, or figured out that criminal elements had seized control of their drug supply. Not to mention addiction issues.

The 80's signaled a return to emphasis on wealth, so did the 90's.

What righties don't seem to realize, is that the pendulum has swung back on liberals. Not that there is any kind of impending demise going to happen...but conservatives in this country are NOT the victims of liberalism the GOP wants them to think they are
Born in raised in Hayward, went to SJSU, took all my first dates to SF to impress them. :cool-45:

This is about a behavior, a tactic, of the Left. And I lean Left, by the way.

When it's virtually impossible to criticize a black liberal in any way without someone screaming "racist" to put that person on the defensive and divert the conversation, we all lose. It shuts down communication. And that definitely appears to be the goal.

We're all victims of this, not just conservatives, and I strongly feel that the BIGGEST victims of this behavior are American Blacks.

And now, as the list of links I provided illustrates, more and more honest liberals are agreeing with me.
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I'm glad you brought that up.

I somewhat agree, just not about the victimhood aspects.

The black experience in America is different from all other racial/cultural demographics.

Generally, whites caused the socio-economic disadvantages blacks had from 1870-1970.

I don't believe whites still create economic disadvantages for blacks, but social disadvantages remain.

Blacks faced oppression from whites from 1600-1970. Anti discrimination measures have only been in effect since 1970, and the correction will take as long as it takes...because statistics still indicate the long term effects of disadvantages remain for blacks as a whole.

Does that mean there has to be a double standard for what a non black says, and what a black says?...no

But as a white male...not calling black person the "N" word is not a big problem
There are MANY surveys etc that prove that blacks continue to be discriminated against in the USA. They're just not being blared endlessly on the Pub Propaganda Service.
 
Do you expect anyone to check out all those links?

I gotta admit, it's a nice collection
They're all from and about intellectually honest liberals who admit the regressive left has gone too far.

And I'd be stunned if any regressive leftists read them, for obvious reasons.
.
I'm from Northern California and was born in 1964. This is/was ground zero for the hippie 60's revolution. I've seen all the good and bad that came from it.

At first...the repressive post WWII "June and Ward Clever" or "Ozzy and Harriet" way of life was leaving too many people out, as all manner of diversity couldn't prosper within it.

So the 60's brought about a much less repressive and puritanical way of life here.

By the 70's, the hippies started realizing that they needed jobs, police protection, and the druggies either overdosed, or figured out that criminal elements had seized control of their drug supply. Not to mention addiction issues.

The 80's signaled a return to emphasis on wealth, so did the 90's.

What righties don't seem to realize, is that the pendulum has swung back on liberals. Not that there is any kind of impending demise going to happen...but conservatives in this country are NOT the victims of liberalism the GOP wants them to think they are
Born in raised in Hayward, went to SJSU, took all my first dates to SF to impress them. :cool-45:

This is about a behavior, a tactic, of the Left. And I lean Left, by the way.

When it's virtually impossible to criticize a black liberal in any way without someone screaming "racist" to put that person on the defensive and divert the conversation, we all lose. It shuts down communication. And that definitely appears to be the goal.

We're all victims of this, not just conservatives, and I strongly feel that the BIGGEST victims of this behavior are American Blacks.

And now, as the list of links I provided illustrates, more and more honest liberals are agreeing with me.
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I'm glad you brought that up.

I somewhat agree, just not about the victimhood aspects.

The black experience in America is different from all other racial/cultural demographics.

Generally, whites caused the socio-economic disadvantages blacks had from 1870-1970.

I don't believe whites still create economic disadvantages for blacks, but social disadvantages remain.

Blacks faced oppression from whites from 1600-1970. Anti discrimination measures have only been in effect since 1970, and the correction will take as long as it takes...because statistics still indicate the long term effects of disadvantages remain for blacks as a whole.

Does that mean there has to be a double standard for what a non black says, and what a black says?...no

But as a white male...not calling black person the "N" word is not a big problem
There are MANY surveys etc that prove that blacks continue to be discriminated against in the USA. They're just not being blared endlessly on the Pub Propaganda Service.


1. Using the results of one study alone, I can prove that blacks are their own worst enemy....and then explain why


Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

"Overall, white homes had 2.5 times as many books as black homes.

But the most surprising finding is that the top quintile of black homes reported having fewer books (69) than the bottom quintile of white homes (71).


Report Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students Performance"
Quick Hits Page - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

Can you imagine???? More books in the homes of the of the lowest quintile of whites, than the highest quintile of blacks!!!!!
Outside of psychobabble, there is no explanation for this that involves 'oppression' or 'discrimination.'

Libraries are free to all, and Amazon sells to anyone.



2. The explanation?

Democrats/Liberals have taught blacks that they are oppressed, and have no need to better themselves....
...their great friends, the Democrats/Liberals will take care of them!
Hence.....they ignore the course other groups have used: education.


Democrats have deprived blacks of the pleasures of striving and succeeding.

Or....perhaps Democrats don't believe that black Americans can do either.....
 
Do you expect anyone to check out all those links?

I gotta admit, it's a nice collection
They're all from and about intellectually honest liberals who admit the regressive left has gone too far.

And I'd be stunned if any regressive leftists read them, for obvious reasons.
.
I'm from Northern California and was born in 1964. This is/was ground zero for the hippie 60's revolution. I've seen all the good and bad that came from it.

At first...the repressive post WWII "June and Ward Clever" or "Ozzy and Harriet" way of life was leaving too many people out, as all manner of diversity couldn't prosper within it.

So the 60's brought about a much less repressive and puritanical way of life here.

By the 70's, the hippies started realizing that they needed jobs, police protection, and the druggies either overdosed, or figured out that criminal elements had seized control of their drug supply. Not to mention addiction issues.

The 80's signaled a return to emphasis on wealth, so did the 90's.

What righties don't seem to realize, is that the pendulum has swung back on liberals. Not that there is any kind of impending demise going to happen...but conservatives in this country are NOT the victims of liberalism the GOP wants them to think they are
Born in raised in Hayward, went to SJSU, took all my first dates to SF to impress them. :cool-45:

This is about a behavior, a tactic, of the Left. And I lean Left, by the way.

When it's virtually impossible to criticize a black liberal in any way without someone screaming "racist" to put that person on the defensive and divert the conversation, we all lose. It shuts down communication. And that definitely appears to be the goal.

We're all victims of this, not just conservatives, and I strongly feel that the BIGGEST victims of this behavior are American Blacks.

And now, as the list of links I provided illustrates, more and more honest liberals are agreeing with me.
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I'm glad you brought that up.

I somewhat agree, just not about the victimhood aspects.

The black experience in America is different from all other racial/cultural demographics.

Generally, whites caused the socio-economic disadvantages blacks had from 1870-1970.

I don't believe whites still create economic disadvantages for blacks, but social disadvantages remain.

Blacks faced oppression from whites from 1600-1970. Anti discrimination measures have only been in effect since 1970, and the correction will take as long as it takes...because statistics still indicate the long term effects of disadvantages remain for blacks as a whole.

Does that mean there has to be a double standard for what a non black says, and what a black says?...no

But as a white male...not calling black person the "N" word is not a big problem
That's a word I don't like and I don't use. But this goes much further than that.

We clearly have a long way to go in race relations, and my contention is that many of the behaviors of the Left both exacerbate the problem and slow down the solution.

Are there ignorant conservatives who still exhibit both covert and overt racism? Of course, despite the fact that many somehow have the self-delusion to deny it. I'm talking about the other side. The Left denies it's inhibiting dialogue by constantly charging racism, but that's just intellectually dishonest.
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They're all from and about intellectually honest liberals who admit the regressive left has gone too far.

And I'd be stunned if any regressive leftists read them, for obvious reasons.
.
I'm from Northern California and was born in 1964. This is/was ground zero for the hippie 60's revolution. I've seen all the good and bad that came from it.

At first...the repressive post WWII "June and Ward Clever" or "Ozzy and Harriet" way of life was leaving too many people out, as all manner of diversity couldn't prosper within it.

So the 60's brought about a much less repressive and puritanical way of life here.

By the 70's, the hippies started realizing that they needed jobs, police protection, and the druggies either overdosed, or figured out that criminal elements had seized control of their drug supply. Not to mention addiction issues.

The 80's signaled a return to emphasis on wealth, so did the 90's.

What righties don't seem to realize, is that the pendulum has swung back on liberals. Not that there is any kind of impending demise going to happen...but conservatives in this country are NOT the victims of liberalism the GOP wants them to think they are
Born in raised in Hayward, went to SJSU, took all my first dates to SF to impress them. :cool-45:

This is about a behavior, a tactic, of the Left. And I lean Left, by the way.

When it's virtually impossible to criticize a black liberal in any way without someone screaming "racist" to put that person on the defensive and divert the conversation, we all lose. It shuts down communication. And that definitely appears to be the goal.

We're all victims of this, not just conservatives, and I strongly feel that the BIGGEST victims of this behavior are American Blacks.

And now, as the list of links I provided illustrates, more and more honest liberals are agreeing with me.
.
I'm glad you brought that up.

I somewhat agree, just not about the victimhood aspects.

The black experience in America is different from all other racial/cultural demographics.

Generally, whites caused the socio-economic disadvantages blacks had from 1870-1970.

I don't believe whites still create economic disadvantages for blacks, but social disadvantages remain.

Blacks faced oppression from whites from 1600-1970. Anti discrimination measures have only been in effect since 1970, and the correction will take as long as it takes...because statistics still indicate the long term effects of disadvantages remain for blacks as a whole.

Does that mean there has to be a double standard for what a non black says, and what a black says?...no

But as a white male...not calling black person the "N" word is not a big problem
There are MANY surveys etc that prove that blacks continue to be discriminated against in the USA. They're just not being blared endlessly on the Pub Propaganda Service.


1. Using the results of one study alone, I can prove that blacks are their own worst enemy....and then explain why


Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

"Overall, white homes had 2.5 times as many books as black homes.

But the most surprising finding is that the top quintile of black homes reported having fewer books (69) than the bottom quintile of white homes (71).


Report Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students Performance"
Quick Hits Page - The Rush Limbaugh Show

Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

Can you imagine???? More books in the homes of the of the lowest quintile of whites, than the highest quintile of blacks!!!!!
Outside of psychobabble, there is no explanation for this that involves 'oppression' or 'discrimination.'

Libraries are free to all, and Amazon sells to anyone.



2. The explanation?

Democrats/Liberals have taught blacks that they are oppressed, and have no need to better themselves....
...their great friends, the Democrats/Liberals will take care of them!
Hence.....they ignore the course other groups have used: education.


Democrats have deprived blacks of the pleasures of striving and succeeding.

Or....perhaps Democrats don't believe that black Americans can do either.....
And mainly because bigot GOPers discriminate against them DUH, and ALL poor people for that matter DUH.
 
Speech is abridged by government-funded institutions to support the social engineering that the government endorses.

Say the magic words, "I'm offended!," and Liberal government jumps in to erase freedoms, including free speech.



9. In a philosophy class at Marquette University (a Catholic school, no less), no opinion opposed to same-sex marriage is allowed. This was the conversation between a student and instructor Cheryl Abbate:"

Student: Regardless of why I'm against gay marriage, it's still wrong for the teacher of a class to completely discredit one person's opinion when they may have different opinions.

Abbate: Ok, there are some opinions that are not appropriate that are harmful, such as racist opinions, sexist opinions, and quite honestly, do you know if anyone in the class is homosexual?

Student: No, I don't.

Abbate: And don't you think that that would be offensive to them if you were to raise your hand and challenge this?



Student: If I choose to challenge this, it's my right as an American citizen.

Abbate: Ok, well, actually you don't have a right in this class, as ... especially as an ethics professor, to make homophobic comments, racist comments, sexist comments ...



Abbate: How I would experience would be similar to how someone who is in this room and who is homosexual who would experience someone criticizing this.


Student: Ok, so because they are homosexual I can't have my opinions? And it's not being offensive towards them because I am just having my opinions on a very broad subject.

Abbate: You can have whatever opinions you want but I can tell you right now, in this class homophobic comments, racist comments, and sexist comments will not be tolerated. If you don't like that you are more than free to drop this class." Stripping a Professor of Tenure Over a Blog Post



And so, Liberal universities are funded by all taxpayers, in order to turn out cadres of totalitarians.
So much for this once noble experiment called 'America.'

About that same Marquette U....

Jodi O’Brien (Wisconsin)

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"O’Brien, a sociology professor at Seattle University who is openly a lesbian and writes about sexuality, was originally offered a job as dean of one of Marquette University’s colleges. In May 2010, her offer was rescinded.

The Roman Catholic and Jesuit-run University told the New York Times that she lacked “the ability to represent the Marquette mission and identity.” University President Rev. Robert A. Wild argued that the choice not to hire O’Brien wasn’t due to her sexuality, but rather to her academic writing, in which he found “strongly negative statements about marriage and family.

O’Brien has written extensively about the topic of gay marriage; if this isn’t discrimination based on sexual orientation, it’s certainly discrimination based on beliefs about sexual orientation. Is there a substantial difference between the two?"

Looks like the conservatives at Marquette get to do their own discriminating and what you would call denial of free speech rights, eh?

lol

5 People Who Were Fired for Being Gay, and the 29 States Where That is Still Legal
 
I'm from Northern California and was born in 1964. This is/was ground zero for the hippie 60's revolution. I've seen all the good and bad that came from it.

At first...the repressive post WWII "June and Ward Clever" or "Ozzy and Harriet" way of life was leaving too many people out, as all manner of diversity couldn't prosper within it.

So the 60's brought about a much less repressive and puritanical way of life here.

By the 70's, the hippies started realizing that they needed jobs, police protection, and the druggies either overdosed, or figured out that criminal elements had seized control of their drug supply. Not to mention addiction issues.

The 80's signaled a return to emphasis on wealth, so did the 90's.

What righties don't seem to realize, is that the pendulum has swung back on liberals. Not that there is any kind of impending demise going to happen...but conservatives in this country are NOT the victims of liberalism the GOP wants them to think they are
Born in raised in Hayward, went to SJSU, took all my first dates to SF to impress them. :cool-45:

This is about a behavior, a tactic, of the Left. And I lean Left, by the way.

When it's virtually impossible to criticize a black liberal in any way without someone screaming "racist" to put that person on the defensive and divert the conversation, we all lose. It shuts down communication. And that definitely appears to be the goal.

We're all victims of this, not just conservatives, and I strongly feel that the BIGGEST victims of this behavior are American Blacks.

And now, as the list of links I provided illustrates, more and more honest liberals are agreeing with me.
.
I'm glad you brought that up.

I somewhat agree, just not about the victimhood aspects.

The black experience in America is different from all other racial/cultural demographics.

Generally, whites caused the socio-economic disadvantages blacks had from 1870-1970.

I don't believe whites still create economic disadvantages for blacks, but social disadvantages remain.

Blacks faced oppression from whites from 1600-1970. Anti discrimination measures have only been in effect since 1970, and the correction will take as long as it takes...because statistics still indicate the long term effects of disadvantages remain for blacks as a whole.

Does that mean there has to be a double standard for what a non black says, and what a black says?...no

But as a white male...not calling black person the "N" word is not a big problem
There are MANY surveys etc that prove that blacks continue to be discriminated against in the USA. They're just not being blared endlessly on the Pub Propaganda Service.


1. Using the results of one study alone, I can prove that blacks are their own worst enemy....and then explain why


Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

"Overall, white homes had 2.5 times as many books as black homes.

But the most surprising finding is that the top quintile of black homes reported having fewer books (69) than the bottom quintile of white homes (71).


Report Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students Performance"
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Report: Negligent Parenting Hurts Black Students' Performance

Can you imagine???? More books in the homes of the of the lowest quintile of whites, than the highest quintile of blacks!!!!!
Outside of psychobabble, there is no explanation for this that involves 'oppression' or 'discrimination.'

Libraries are free to all, and Amazon sells to anyone.



2. The explanation?

Democrats/Liberals have taught blacks that they are oppressed, and have no need to better themselves....
...their great friends, the Democrats/Liberals will take care of them!
Hence.....they ignore the course other groups have used: education.


Democrats have deprived blacks of the pleasures of striving and succeeding.

Or....perhaps Democrats don't believe that black Americans can do either.....
And mainly because bigot GOPers discriminate against them DUH, and ALL poor people for that matter DUH.


So....discrimination is the reason that they have so few books in their homes???

That's what I mean by psychobabble.


But.....I've seen your posts.....bet the only books you have come with crayons.
 
Speech is abridged by government-funded institutions to support the social engineering that the government endorses.

Say the magic words, "I'm offended!," and Liberal government jumps in to erase freedoms, including free speech.



9. In a philosophy class at Marquette University (a Catholic school, no less), no opinion opposed to same-sex marriage is allowed. This was the conversation between a student and instructor Cheryl Abbate:"

Student: Regardless of why I'm against gay marriage, it's still wrong for the teacher of a class to completely discredit one person's opinion when they may have different opinions.

Abbate: Ok, there are some opinions that are not appropriate that are harmful, such as racist opinions, sexist opinions, and quite honestly, do you know if anyone in the class is homosexual?

Student: No, I don't.

Abbate: And don't you think that that would be offensive to them if you were to raise your hand and challenge this?



Student: If I choose to challenge this, it's my right as an American citizen.

Abbate: Ok, well, actually you don't have a right in this class, as ... especially as an ethics professor, to make homophobic comments, racist comments, sexist comments ...



Abbate: How I would experience would be similar to how someone who is in this room and who is homosexual who would experience someone criticizing this.


Student: Ok, so because they are homosexual I can't have my opinions? And it's not being offensive towards them because I am just having my opinions on a very broad subject.

Abbate: You can have whatever opinions you want but I can tell you right now, in this class homophobic comments, racist comments, and sexist comments will not be tolerated. If you don't like that you are more than free to drop this class." Stripping a Professor of Tenure Over a Blog Post



And so, Liberal universities are funded by all taxpayers, in order to turn out cadres of totalitarians.
So much for this once noble experiment called 'America.'

About that same Marquette U....

Jodi O’Brien (Wisconsin)

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"O’Brien, a sociology professor at Seattle University who is openly a lesbian and writes about sexuality, was originally offered a job as dean of one of Marquette University’s colleges. In May 2010, her offer was rescinded.

The Roman Catholic and Jesuit-run University told the New York Times that she lacked “the ability to represent the Marquette mission and identity.” University President Rev. Robert A. Wild argued that the choice not to hire O’Brien wasn’t due to her sexuality, but rather to her academic writing, in which he found “strongly negative statements about marriage and family.

O’Brien has written extensively about the topic of gay marriage; if this isn’t discrimination based on sexual orientation, it’s certainly discrimination based on beliefs about sexual orientation. Is there a substantial difference between the two?"

Looks like the conservatives at Marquette get to do their own discriminating and what you would call denial of free speech rights, eh?

lol

5 People Who Were Fired for Being Gay, and the 29 States Where That is Still Legal


Hmmm.....five people.....

Tomorrow, just for you, I'll offer a thread on gay activism.

Sleep tight.
 

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