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Sure I am... I just don’t know what YOU consider seriousI didn’t dodge, I gave a direct answer. I can’t read your mind and my answers don’t seem to be satisfying you. So why don’t you just ask me about a specific measure and I’ll tell you if I support it or notI’d vote for people who can write and pass laws to improve the system and funding to implement and enforceSo, you stated that you support some limitations. So, what are you prepared to do to enforce those limitations?
I asked a simple and direct question, and you dodged.
The fact is revealed. YOu are not prepared to support ANY attempt to enforce ANY limits on the flow of Third World aliens into our nation.
That is your position, yet you are too dishonest to be upfront about it. You hide and lie, because you know that being truthful would reveal that your position is not based on anything to do with what is good for your fellow Americans.
THe answer that you refuse to honestly give, yet constantly reveal, is that you are not prepared to support any serious attempt to enforce any limitation on people coming here.
I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedI disagreeAll the people in the world have always had the opportunity to come here and try to make it. They used to come over in ships all the time... guess what, they all never came at once. Crazy phenomenon, I know.By that logic, all the people of the Earth have right to come here, and be citizens.
And liberals have the nerve to wonder why we question their patriotism.
1. No they did not.
2. Your position is not compatible with a survivable America.
If everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
I literally have a certificate from a genealogy project I did a while back that shows a direct ancestor of mine who came over with the Columbus crew. That probably makes me more American than you. Is your mind blown?Slade3200 is illegal him/herself or he/she has strong ties to those who are. There’s just no way in hell a legitimate, real American could/would take the same position that he/she does.
No legitimate American would believe that Americans have no right to sovereignty...NONE.
The last time I checked Eye for an eye was in the Bible not in the constitution.No, .they don't deserve a shot, and deportation is the only penalty the removes the incentive for crossing the border.They do deserve a shot and deportation is not the only form of punishment. You’re wrongYes you do, you lying piece of shit. You said "they deserve a shot at it."I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedI disagree
If everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Anything short of deportation is amnesty.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.show me where I claimed we don’t have the right to control our borders? Quote me. Now stop lying
The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
If the penalty for robbing $100,000 from a bank was a $1000 fine, would that deter anyone from robbing a bank? Nope. Bank robbers would laugh at that. The penalty has to be greater than the value of the thing obtained illegally. So what penalty do you propose that would actually deter anyone from crossing our border?
Some form of community or military service.No, .they don't deserve a shot, and deportation is the only penalty the removes the incentive for crossing the border.They do deserve a shot and deportation is not the only form of punishment. You’re wrongYes you do, you lying piece of shit. You said "they deserve a shot at it."I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedI disagree
If everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Anything short of deportation is amnesty.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.show me where I claimed we don’t have the right to control our borders? Quote me. Now stop lying
The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
If the penalty for robbing $100,000 from a bank was a $1000 fine, would that deter anyone from robbing a bank? Nope. Bank robbers would laugh at that. The penalty has to be greater than the value of the thing obtained illegally. So what penalty do you propose that would actually deter anyone from crossing our border?
Only for dreamersYou are for amnesty. You're a fucking liar.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.show me where I claimed we don’t have the right to control our borders? Quote me. Now stop lyingI don't give a shit what your rationalization is. The claim that we don't have the right to determine who enters this country is beyond stupid. It doesn't matter how we got here. People living in large parts of Asia got there because Genghis Khan invaded and slaughtered tens of millions of them in the process. Does that mean anyone who wants to emigrate to Ukraine has a right to do so?You and I “the citizens” are here because our family's once invaded this country. Because of that I’m not so quick to throw up the closed sign
The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
So what??? You’re the one who asked if they ever got a Nobel prize like it carried some prestigious weight and yes they got 3A politician, an author and a "scientist" who supposedly proved that Ozone was a problem. In other words he was an environmental activist. None of these were for actual science, like inventing the transistor or unraveling the structure of DNA.You crack me up...Are you trying to prove you support open borders?I dont see a need to reduce the amount of people in our country and shrink our economy. I’d focus on deporting criminals, securing our border, attracting the best and brightest to work in our companies and attend our universities, and speed up the god awful immigration system that’s currently in placeChanging the law to make what they did legal isn't what I was referring to, dumbass. When I say "reduce the number of illegals in the country," I mean change where they are located to be outside of our borders.The dream act
All you're doing is proving that you support open borders.
Who do you think you're fooling?
You're doing a good job of it.
The best and the brightest aren't coming from Mexico, dumbass. Has anyone from Mexico ever won a Nobel Prize? Developed a life saving drug? Invented some trillion dollar technology?
The Three Mexican Nobel Prize Winners
Thank you for speaking for him... got dumb and dumber hereHe considers a proposal serious if it would actually reduce the number of illegals in this country. Everything you have proposed would increase the number of illegals.Sure I am... I just don’t know what YOU consider seriousI didn’t dodge, I gave a direct answer. I can’t read your mind and my answers don’t seem to be satisfying you. So why don’t you just ask me about a specific measure and I’ll tell you if I support it or notI’d vote for people who can write and pass laws to improve the system and funding to implement and enforce
I asked a simple and direct question, and you dodged.
The fact is revealed. YOu are not prepared to support ANY attempt to enforce ANY limits on the flow of Third World aliens into our nation.
That is your position, yet you are too dishonest to be upfront about it. You hide and lie, because you know that being truthful would reveal that your position is not based on anything to do with what is good for your fellow Americans.
THe answer that you refuse to honestly give, yet constantly reveal, is that you are not prepared to support any serious attempt to enforce any limitation on people coming here.
That’s because I’m being honest. I’m not going to get a gun and go guard the border. Or go protest somewhere. I got my own shit going on so when you ask what I’m going to do, my answer is support measures or reps I agree with. I’m guessing the same is true for you.Sure I am... I just don’t know what YOU consider seriousI didn’t dodge, I gave a direct answer. I can’t read your mind and my answers don’t seem to be satisfying you. So why don’t you just ask me about a specific measure and I’ll tell you if I support it or notI’d vote for people who can write and pass laws to improve the system and funding to implement and enforce
I asked a simple and direct question, and you dodged.
The fact is revealed. YOu are not prepared to support ANY attempt to enforce ANY limits on the flow of Third World aliens into our nation.
That is your position, yet you are too dishonest to be upfront about it. You hide and lie, because you know that being truthful would reveal that your position is not based on anything to do with what is good for your fellow Americans.
THe answer that you refuse to honestly give, yet constantly reveal, is that you are not prepared to support any serious attempt to enforce any limitation on people coming here.
No, you aren't. YOu demonstrated that, when I asked you what steps you would support to enforce the limitations you supposedly supported, and you all you could come up with was "voting for someone to improve the system and implement and enforce".
You could not even envision a lie you could pretend to support.
If we had a popular vote or a different electoral system then the rep prez would get millions of votes from CaliI don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedI disagreeAll the people in the world have always had the opportunity to come here and try to make it. They used to come over in ships all the time... guess what, they all never came at once. Crazy phenomenon, I know.
1. No they did not.
2. Your position is not compatible with a survivable America.
If everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Oh? When is the next time you expect California to vote for a Republican President?
...Anyone coming since Trump was elected is sitting in an internment camp on the border.
That is not true. You don't know much about this, do you? You're just here to vent political partisanship, aren't you?
I asked you if you are working with ANYONE who came across the Southern Border since Trump was elected....
ILLEGAL ALIEN STOLE $10.8 MILLION IN FRAUDULENT TAX REFUNDSI’m not pretending I’m asking a statistical question. If no revenue is gained then the answer is zero. Is that what your answer is? Zero?We don’t pretend that illegals actions have a good result; that’s feelings driven libbie land.We all know those are not honest numbers. Stop lying.Each taxpayer pays $100 per day for each illegalThey should of they’ve committed violent crimes. Of not them it becomes a question of process. We can’t ship 10 million people out of the country so there should be a different kind of penalty... fines or community service etc
Why would you believe that we’re incapable of enforcing our laws? Mexicrats have simply rendered our immigration and deportation laws useless...There are other ways....shit, Ike did it with very little resources not long ago.
Happy Now libbies(who work and pay taxes)?
Here’s an honesty test. In your stats, how much money is being added to our economy by illegal immigrants?
he isn't so much a Christian as he is a trumptian.
Great, another one who can’t answer a question. Why do you even bother responding?ILLEGAL ALIEN STOLE $10.8 MILLION IN FRAUDULENT TAX REFUNDSI’m not pretending I’m asking a statistical question. If no revenue is gained then the answer is zero. Is that what your answer is? Zero?We don’t pretend that illegals actions have a good result; that’s feelings driven libbie land.We all know those are not honest numbers. Stop lying.Each taxpayer pays $100 per day for each illegalWhy would you believe that we’re incapable of enforcing our laws? Mexicrats have simply rendered our immigration and deportation laws useless...There are other ways....shit, Ike did it with very little resources not long ago.
Happy Now libbies(who work and pay taxes)?
Here’s an honesty test. In your stats, how much money is being added to our economy by illegal immigrants?
May 5, 2016 by Dave Gibson
The Knoxville News-Sentinel
A Honduran who helped craft a $10.8 million scam to rip off an IRS program designed to allow illegal immigrants to collect income tax refunds pleaded guilty Tuesday.
Amado Valdez-Morales, an illegal immigrant already deported once, entered guilty pleas Tuesday in U.S. District Court to charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit money laundering and illegal re-entry by a previously deported alien.
He is one of two illegal immigrants Assistant U.S. Attorney Frank Dale has said hatched a plan to use a special IRS program in which undocumented workers are given individual tax identification numbers to file income taxes — and in the lion’s share of cases to collect hefty refunds — to make a fortune off the U.S. government. The second leader of the group, also a Honduran, fled the U.S. before his capture in the case and has not been identified in court records.
Also charged in the scheme, which began in 2012, are several naturalized citizens who operated either check-cashing businesses catering to Hispanics and took a cut from every falsely-obtained tax return check cashed, or, in the case of insurance agent Mayra Edith Blair, prepared the bogus tax returns. Of the 11 defendants charged last year after a probe by IRS Criminal Investigation Division agents Danielle Barto and Brian Grove, six have struck deals to plead guilty.
The IRS in 1996 began issuing tax identification numbers for use by illegal immigrants. The program allowed illegal immigrants to take advantage of a child tax credit similar to the earned income tax credit offered single parents who are legal citizens.
Under the scheme hatched by Valdez and the Honduran fugitive, fake Mexican, Honduran and Guatemalan identification documents were obtained for use by Blair, whose employees prepared false tax returns that typically spanned three tax years and claimed several child dependents. Valdez provided addresses and passed out the checks to various co-conspirators, who were paid a cut to cash the checks. The indicted store owners also took a cut. Valdez and his fugitive partner took the rest.
In one day alone, a co-conspirator cashed roughly $500,000 in falsely-obtained tax returns. An indictment in the case put the total of refund checks cashed during the conspiracy at 2,400 between January 2012 and November 2014, totaling $10.8 million.
United States Illegal Alien Crime Report
ROFL! You are a fucking joke. I didn't say anything like that. Obviously, you only support penalties that won't have any affect.The last time I checked Eye for an eye was in the Bible not in the constitution.No, .they don't deserve a shot, and deportation is the only penalty the removes the incentive for crossing the border.They do deserve a shot and deportation is not the only form of punishment. You’re wrongYes you do, you lying piece of shit. You said "they deserve a shot at it."I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedIf everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Anything short of deportation is amnesty.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
If the penalty for robbing $100,000 from a bank was a $1000 fine, would that deter anyone from robbing a bank? Nope. Bank robbers would laugh at that. The penalty has to be greater than the value of the thing obtained illegally. So what penalty do you propose that would actually deter anyone from crossing our border?
Nope. You could get half of Mexico to do military service in exchange for US citizenship. Americans do it even though they are already citizens. In the military they get paid and they get valuable training. That won't discourage a thing.Some form of community or military service.No, .they don't deserve a shot, and deportation is the only penalty the removes the incentive for crossing the border.They do deserve a shot and deportation is not the only form of punishment. You’re wrongYes you do, you lying piece of shit. You said "they deserve a shot at it."I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedIf everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Anything short of deportation is amnesty.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
If the penalty for robbing $100,000 from a bank was a $1000 fine, would that deter anyone from robbing a bank? Nope. Bank robbers would laugh at that. The penalty has to be greater than the value of the thing obtained illegally. So what penalty do you propose that would actually deter anyone from crossing our border?
Obviously I meant a science Nobel Prize. I real one. Not bullshit political pandering.So what??? You’re the one who asked if they ever got a Nobel prize like it carried some prestigious weight and yes they got 3A politician, an author and a "scientist" who supposedly proved that Ozone was a problem. In other words he was an environmental activist. None of these were for actual science, like inventing the transistor or unraveling the structure of DNA.You crack me up...Are you trying to prove you support open borders?I dont see a need to reduce the amount of people in our country and shrink our economy. I’d focus on deporting criminals, securing our border, attracting the best and brightest to work in our companies and attend our universities, and speed up the god awful immigration system that’s currently in placeChanging the law to make what they did legal isn't what I was referring to, dumbass. When I say "reduce the number of illegals in the country," I mean change where they are located to be outside of our borders.
All you're doing is proving that you support open borders.
Who do you think you're fooling?
You're doing a good job of it.
The best and the brightest aren't coming from Mexico, dumbass. Has anyone from Mexico ever won a Nobel Prize? Developed a life saving drug? Invented some trillion dollar technology?
The Three Mexican Nobel Prize Winners
That's still amnesty. And you have supported amnesty for the rest as well. You just call it "comprehensive immigration reform."Only for dreamersYou are for amnesty. You're a fucking liar.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.show me where I claimed we don’t have the right to control our borders? Quote me. Now stop lyingI don't give a shit what your rationalization is. The claim that we don't have the right to determine who enters this country is beyond stupid. It doesn't matter how we got here. People living in large parts of Asia got there because Genghis Khan invaded and slaughtered tens of millions of them in the process. Does that mean anyone who wants to emigrate to Ukraine has a right to do so?
The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
That's a diversion, not an answer.Thank you for speaking for him... got dumb and dumber hereHe considers a proposal serious if it would actually reduce the number of illegals in this country. Everything you have proposed would increase the number of illegals.Sure I am... I just don’t know what YOU consider seriousI didn’t dodge, I gave a direct answer. I can’t read your mind and my answers don’t seem to be satisfying you. So why don’t you just ask me about a specific measure and I’ll tell you if I support it or notI asked a simple and direct question, and you dodged.
The fact is revealed. YOu are not prepared to support ANY attempt to enforce ANY limits on the flow of Third World aliens into our nation.
That is your position, yet you are too dishonest to be upfront about it. You hide and lie, because you know that being truthful would reveal that your position is not based on anything to do with what is good for your fellow Americans.
THe answer that you refuse to honestly give, yet constantly reveal, is that you are not prepared to support any serious attempt to enforce any limitation on people coming here.
Some form of community or military service.No, .they don't deserve a shot, and deportation is the only penalty the removes the incentive for crossing the border.They do deserve a shot and deportation is not the only form of punishment. You’re wrongYes you do, you lying piece of shit. You said "they deserve a shot at it."I don’t want that nor do I think everybody in the world would all come here... how do I know? Because that’s never happenedIf everyone in the world, can come here, we will be flooded with non Americans, until America is not longer America in anything but name, if even that.
Obviously.
The only question is why you want that.
Anything short of deportation is amnesty.I’m not for amnesty. I think they should be held accountable but not necessarily by deportation. Dreamers I think should be made legal.The Democrats official position is for AMNESTY for ILLEGAL Aliens. That incentivizes people coming here illegally and is effectively OPEN BORDERS as it does not penalize these criminals but rewards them. America haters of course support this position.
You are thus FOR Amnesty and therefore Open Borders which isn't controlling our borders.
If the penalty for robbing $100,000 from a bank was a $1000 fine, would that deter anyone from robbing a bank? Nope. Bank robbers would laugh at that. The penalty has to be greater than the value of the thing obtained illegally. So what penalty do you propose that would actually deter anyone from crossing our border?
