Why the well educated vote Liberal

[MarathonMike]

Another Liberal snoot patting himself on the back about how smart he and his academic friends are for being Democrats. Man that just never gets old, does it?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

They are educated to be good little statists.

You mean they are schooled to be good little statists.

The whole premise of the thread is wrong.


The well schooled vote Democrat, the best educated tend either not to vote, or just vote for the most honest and trustworthy candidate, regardless of party. Well educated people ignore partisan politics.

Whether well educated or well schooled, All smart people know that party trumps person when voting for congress.

If that is the case, than that particular person is not someone you want representing you.

What? Voters, when voting for congress, should select the party which best represents their wants, regardless of the individual. It’s how congress works.

Great. You found a guy who thinks it’s fucked up. How ole Carroll wishes it worked and the way it does, are two different things.

 

[Issa]

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck?

We minorities are convinced that the GOP is the party of the racists. Don' you see the number we overwhelmingly vote anti GOP although most of US are conservatives by principle.

So you admit that your lack of any real education affects the way you vote.

two bachelors one in French/Arabic and one in English....fluent in 4 languages, visited over 50 countries. I don't think I have a lack of education, what i have is a problem with you racists ***** of the so called right. We minorities don't vote for your ilk because you guys chose to wage war on us, atlhough most of us are conservatives....keep digging your grave. I arrived to this country and I was one vote now we are 7. Keep on hating on immigrants and minorities, don't stop!!!

left wingers make everything about race because they are racist

Like Trump would say , the left is the least racist....as a minority the only racism I hear and see is from the right.

 

[Issa]

What the fuck?

We minorities are convinced that the GOP is the party of the racists. Don' you see the number we overwhelmingly vote anti GOP although most of US are conservatives by principle.

So you admit that your lack of any real education affects the way you vote.

two bachelors one in French/Arabic and one in English....fluent in 4 languages, visited over 50 countries. I don't think I have a lack of education, what i have is a problem with you racists ***** of the so called right. We minorities don't vote for your ilk because you guys chose to wage war on us, atlhough most of us are conservatives....keep digging your grave. I arrived to this country and I was one vote now we are 7. Keep on hating on immigrants and minorities, don't stop!!!

left wingers make everything about race because they are racist

Leftards are the kind of racists that would walk down the street and see a black supporter of President Trump and think to themselves "What a house n----ger".........

I heard it from blacks themselves....as an arab/Muslim/African we reject everyone that supports Trump and claims to be one of us. Is just like being American and rooting for Russia.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I didn’t vote for him either, though my health insurance cost did not go up due to Obamacare.

I have never claimed it was great under Obama or given Obama credit for shit.

We are back to square one, you being a Trump zealot are too stupid to not understand that a dislike of Trump does not equate to support for Obama.

Anyone that is not licking the ass of Trump understands a person with a brain can dislike them both.

But you will never be able to grasp that because it goes against the Trump talking points, and you will never question your master


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The only guy not of the establishment that is Making America Great Again, and you seem to show your libtard side more and more...

Ok, now I know you are nothing but a Trump zealot. I am embarrassed for you that you tried to pass yourself off as a libertarian.

Someone how has been funding the establishment for 40 years cannot be "not" of the establishment. How fucking naive are you?

The only "lib" thing about me you can point to is that I do not lick the ass of Trump like you do. You are nothing but a fucking partisan hack and I now really do not belive your bullshit stories about your millions. Nobody this stupid would be smart enough to invest their money wisely.

So, what has President Trump done that has put such a bug up your ass?

BTW, if you are going to call someone "stupid"? I "belive" you might want to learn how to spell, dumb ass.

Oh my GOD!!! I had a typo, how will I ever live down the shame? Dumb fucks!

As for Trump, here is a good start...

1. The Trump Wall. I oppose the wall as I feel it is not needed and a waste of money that we do not have to be wasting. That does not mean I am for an open border. Border crossing are down 78% according to Trump and that is with little added to the border. Also, if you wish to keep people from coming here illegally, take away their reason to come here. I would punish firms that hire illegals harshly and use that money to pay for more security. I would also pull 50% of the troops we have in Germany out of Germany and station them along the southern border, saves money on both ends. I know that people like to claim that guarding the border is not the job of the military, but that is just bullshit.

2. I oppose more funding for the military at this time. Our military is not underfunded, it is misused and mismanaged. The amount of money unaccounted and wasted for by our military is staggering. And this is coming from a Retired Marine. Get their house in order first, and then see if they really need more money.

3. I oppose sending more troops, or even keeping any troops, in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is and always will be a place that foreign troops go to die without changing a thing. No matter how long we stay, when we leave the outcome will be the same. I also disagreed with wasting 100 million dollars worth of cruise missiles to send a message that is none of our business to send.

4. I oppose his economic isolationist policies. While I think that the TPP was a bad deal, Trump is supposed to be the king of dealmakers. Instead of walking away from it, renegotiate it and make it better. Every time we pull back from such a thing causing a vacuum, it is filled by China. China was already our biggest rival on the planet, and now we are helping to make them even stronger economically. We are going to run into the same problem when he fucks up NAFTA. Already customers for our grains and other agricultural products are starting to look elsewhere as they do not know what to expect from Trump. If you think the housing market crash was bad, what do you think will happen when a large part of our agricultural sector crashes?

5. I disagree with any tax cuts that add to the deficit. If he wishes to cut taxes, cut spending by the same amount. It is pretty much that simple.

6. I disagree with his putting unqualified people into important post based upon their loyalty to him during the election. The most egregious example was him trying to put a radio talk show host with no science background into the post of Chief Scientist of the USDA. That was followed closely by him wanting to put a paranormal blogger on the Fed Court bench. Thank goodness his own Senate was smart enough to squash both of those attempts. And yes, I know every president does it, and I oppose it every time.

I appreciate the well thought out, detailed response and you deserve one in return and it appears that we are not that far apart on some things

#1 I disagree with your contention that we don't need a wall as a deterrent to illegal immigration. If you have no borders, you have no country. I have lived in Texas most of my life and I have seen firsthand what illegal immigration brings. My travels due to work has taken me to 43 of the continental United States. I have also seen first hand as to where this "look the other way" policy that benefits the purveyors of cheap labor while hurting those that are considered the "working poor".

#2. I can't argue with you there since the military budget is bloated to the point of obscenity and they can't account as to how trillions of dollars have vanished like a fart in the wind. The military industrial complex and their sacred child "DARPA" have come up with new and creative ways to kill and they are at least 50 years ahead of us when it comes to the latest, greatest technology. I cede that point to you...


#3 I will concede this point as well. Troops are in Afghanistan to protect the world's largest producer of opium and is sitting on a trillion dollars worth of lithium. How in the fuck can ANY leader justify the presence of US troops in Afghanistan 16 plus years later after the false flag event that was 9/11 escapes me.....if the mighty military of USA.INC can't subdue a rag tag army of muslim extremists? How in the FUCK could they ever protect the borders of this country? No one ever stops to ask the question.......

#4 We will disagree on this one...there hasn't been a "fair trade" agreement that has ever benefited the average "Johnny Lunchpail"......quite the opposite. Under the guise of "environmentalism", decent paying blue collar jobs were outsourced to countries that didn't have the same type of "Green Gestapo" legislation and this was a plan put in place via the formation of the Club Of Rome, an offshoot of the U.N.

#5 Income taxes is a massive scam and always has been. How does this corporate entity that we call "gubermint" justify confiscating a percentage of our labor (that is bartered in exchange for something of value in order to eek out an existence) and how is it any different than the situation of the serfs that had to turn over a portion of their sweat equity to their "lords"? Our "lord" is the 13 shareholders of the privately owned Federal Reserve central bank that extends "credit from an empty account that WE pay interest on as de-facto employees of USA.INC. I am hoping that Trump will tackle that issue soon because the Fed needs a "top to bottom" audit which has never happened since it came into existence.

#6 I will admit that I do not know which unqualified people you are speaking of as it pertains to those that President Trump wanted signed off on that were denied....if you could provide a list of names? I would be indebted to you so I can do a background search on.

Again, I thank you profusely for taking the time to post such an incredibly well written response. Please accept my apology for having misjudged you. We may not agree on everything, but you are no "troll"..........

Thank you for your response, on this board it is easy to assume the worst about others, I do it way too often myself.

I do not disagree with your view that we need to control the borders, just how to go about it.

As for the unqualified people, look up Sam Clovis. He was nominated by Trump to the be the Chief Scientist of the USDA.

The other I mentioned was Brett Talley who was nominated to be a Fed Judge.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

Educated isn't the same as Wisdom. You can spend 100's of thousands of dollars and still end up working as a barista at Starbucks. You go off and get skills like plumbing, or carpentry and earn 40 thousand dollars a year easy. People who get college educated, end up needing the government to take care of them because of such high debt those stupid individuals accrue. Those who got wise enough to get skills, don't carry a high debt so can mortgage out a house and car, thus putting them away ahead than the "Highly Educated" moron...

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Or you can get a degree in analytics and earn 6 figures and hire the plumbers and carpenters making 40 grand a year.


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IT folks make the big bucks because most are burned out at 40.

It is easy to get burnt out chasing the all mighty dollar. I have turned down better paying jobs that left no time for having a life.


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It is easy to get burnt out chasing the all mighty 25 year old.

I guess that depends on the 25 year old you are chasing.

 

[cnelsen]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

The most reliable predictor of voting is not education. It is marriage.

 

[Disir]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

Yes, you are posting this to deepen our partisan divide.

The Democratic Party is not liberal.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

The most reliable predictor of voting is not education. It is marriage.

Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

 

[Redfish]

"educated voters tend to vote"

The key word is "tend".
There is not really a huge education divide.
There is only a few percentage points difference, and most of it may just be a matter of voter turn-out.
Younger Voters "tend" to vote left wing because they are naive about the world.
As people mature they become wiser and more conservative.

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

bullshit. Older people tend to vote GOP because they have experienced more of life and are very aware of the failures and lies of liberalism.

news flash-----------everything is not about race. But we understand, its all you libs have left.

 

[Issa]

"educated voters tend to vote"

The key word is "tend".
There is not really a huge education divide.
There is only a few percentage points difference, and most of it may just be a matter of voter turn-out.
Younger Voters "tend" to vote left wing because they are naive about the world.
As people mature they become wiser and more conservative.

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

bullshit. Older people tend to vote GOP because they have experienced more of life and are very aware of the failures and lies of liberalism.

news flash-----------everything is not about race. But we understand, its all you libs have left.

Older people vote for the racists like thrm because they are simply the racists ones. I' yet to meet a non racist older Republican.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

When they do Voter polls and they ask them about their education levels, how honest do you think that people really are? 100% 50%?

liberals -honest --LOL

Yep the left wingers tend to lie about their education level, so how really trustworthy are the polls

they lie about everything; it is who they are

The Revenge of Toxic Human Waste

The sick spoiled scum lie to themselves about what they are. There must be something wrong with a system that allows such a degenerate and vindictive lunatic fringe to have any power at all.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

There’s a HUGE difference between “educated” and “smart”. One only has to look at the incredibly stupid things college students and professors do and say to know that highly educated people aren’t often very smart. Hence they vote democrat.

educated is not the correct term

indoctrinated is much closer to the truth

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck?

We minorities are convinced that the GOP is the party of the racists. Don' you see the number we overwhelmingly vote anti GOP although most of US are conservatives by principle.

So you admit that your lack of any real education affects the way you vote.

two bachelors one in French/Arabic and one in English....fluent in 4 languages, visited over 50 countries. I don't think I have a lack of education, what i have is a problem with you racists ***** of the so called right. We minorities don't vote for your ilk because you guys chose to wage war on us, atlhough most of us are conservatives....keep digging your grave. I arrived to this country and I was one vote now we are 7. Keep on hating on immigrants and minorities, don't stop!!!

IQ Is Content; Education Is Just Wrapping

And yet you don't believe in the Bell Curve. That means you are a B student jealous of A students, deceptively putting them down by uplifting the Ding-Dong inferior races.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Sorry but there is no conspiracy at colleges.

No, I'm sure you've done a study of all colleges to know better and that is why such teacher bias has been documented and reported on in both public schools, colleges and universities about a THOUSAND times.

There are just a lot of educated people and educated people tend toward the left.

To whatever degree mainly because these institutions are hammering that crap into their ears morning noon and night.

Education doesn't make you smarter but it does make you more knowledgeable. Knowledge is the antidote to ignorance and tends to make people less racist and sexist.

Close and half-right again! No, WISDOM is the antidote of ignorance. Ignorance is the absentee of both knowledge and common sense. Intelligence and common sense constitute wisdom. Education but lacking wisdom and humility constitute arrogance. Lots and lots of arrogant people these days.

Parrots Are Birdbrains

Knowledge does not guarantee understanding. Mindless repetition of mantras chanted back to academic gurus guarantees a grade, nothing more.

 

[Issa]

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck?

We minorities are convinced that the GOP is the party of the racists. Don' you see the number we overwhelmingly vote anti GOP although most of US are conservatives by principle.

So you admit that your lack of any real education affects the way you vote.

two bachelors one in French/Arabic and one in English....fluent in 4 languages, visited over 50 countries. I don't think I have a lack of education, what i have is a problem with you racists ***** of the so called right. We minorities don't vote for your ilk because you guys chose to wage war on us, atlhough most of us are conservatives....keep digging your grave. I arrived to this country and I was one vote now we are 7. Keep on hating on immigrants and minorities, don't stop!!!

IQ Is Content; Education Is Just Wrapping

And yet you don't believe in the Bell Curve. That means you are a B student jealous of A students, deceptively putting them down by uplifting the Ding-Dong inferior races.

Inferior races? Lol...why your pale ass shit is candy?

 

[Doc1]

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

What the fuck?

We minorities are convinced that the GOP is the party of the racists. Don' you see the number we overwhelmingly vote anti GOP although most of US are conservatives by principle.

So you admit that your lack of any real education affects the way you vote.

two bachelors one in French/Arabic and one in English....fluent in 4 languages, visited over 50 countries. I don't think I have a lack of education, what i have is a problem with you racists ***** of the so called right. We minorities don't vote for your ilk because you guys chose to wage war on us, atlhough most of us are conservatives....keep digging your grave. I arrived to this country and I was one vote now we are 7. Keep on hating on immigrants and minorities, don't stop!!!

Sure and you're 6'4", 245lbs. Wage war on you? LOL, you po immigrant folk are just SO oppressed. If you're here legally I've no beef with you, if you aren't get the fuck out. To you a "racist ****" is someone who disagrees with you.

 

[MarathonMike]

"educated voters tend to vote"

The key word is "tend".
There is not really a huge education divide.
There is only a few percentage points difference, and most of it may just be a matter of voter turn-out.
Younger Voters "tend" to vote left wing because they are naive about the world.
As people mature they become wiser and more conservative.

Older people tend to vote GOP because they harbor racist feelings from the dark era of the 60s and 70s.

bullshit. Older people tend to vote GOP because they have experienced more of life and are very aware of the failures and lies of liberalism.

news flash-----------everything is not about race. But we understand, its all you libs have left.

Older people vote for the racists like thrm because they are simply the racists ones. I' yet to meet a non racist older Republican.

That just means you need to meet more people.

 

[imawhosure]

Conservatives: I'm NOT posting this here to deepen our partisan divide, or to be insulting. Lord knows we have enough of that, but rather to give everyone an idea of why well educated voters tend to vote the way they do. Among the reasons well educated voters tend to lean to the left are: Educated professionals tend to be urban dwellers who live close to other like minded voters, more liberal female college graduates, the well educated tend to be exposed to many different kinds of people worldwide, fostering a more tolerant attitude regarding other cultures, races, and faiths, and much more. Lots of interesting reading here.




Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal?

Why the Most Educated Americans Vote Democratic

I will counter that!

Because they went to Leftist colleges, and their profs told them that they now know better.

Let me ask you something------->why did we spill blood and treasure to dismantle Socialism/Marxism, only to have young people embrace it? What happened? Why would anyone embrace a government model that has failed everywhere?

One thing is sure------------> this battle is one that some side is going to lose, and set the course of the country for a long time coming. Thank goodness that Obama and friends were soooooo dumb, they created OBAMAGATE. That should get us through 18 and 20, and the census will do the rest as it takes electoral votes from blue states that everyone is fleeing from like the plague-)

 

[MisterBeale]

You mean they are schooled to be good little statists.

The whole premise of the thread is wrong.


The well schooled vote Democrat, the best educated tend either not to vote, or just vote for the most honest and trustworthy candidate, regardless of party. Well educated people ignore partisan politics.

Whether well educated or well schooled, All smart people know that party trumps person when voting for congress.

If that is the case, than that particular person is not someone you want representing you.

What? Voters, when voting for congress, should select the party which best represents their wants, regardless of the individual. It’s how congress works.

Great. You found a guy who thinks it’s fucked up. How ole Carroll wishes it worked and the way it does, are two different things.

Carroll is the historian for the CFR.

He was the mentor of Bill Clinton. He doesn't "wish" it worked that way, he is telling you how it works.