Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

Really? Even when the FBI issues a subpoena for the emails? Wow!

"This new learning amazes me!"

It shouldn't. The FBI issued a subpoena long after she cleaned her server. You have the sequence of events wrong, as usual.

When she was no longer secretary of state, there was no reason for her to keep those emails, most of which were copied on State Department servers, anyway.
 
So it's the Orange Man Bad precedent. Interesting. Possessing the documents, not a crime; Orange Man, crime
Golly, CF, you seem so unusually obtuse on some things.
I mean by that, there have been any number of articulate and perceptive posts by others.....that clearly described that lying, getting others to lie, hiding, defying a lawful subpoena....well, those things make a difference in this kind of case and circumstance.

Yet, you ---again ---retreat into this petulant "Orange Man Bad" defense.

What's up with that?
 
Golly, CF, you seem so unusually obtuse on some things.
I mean by that, there have been any number of articulate and perceptive posts by others.....that clearly described that lying, getting others to lie, hiding, defying a lawful subpoena....well, those things make a difference in this kind of case and circumstance.

Yet, you ---again ---retreat into this petulant "Orange Man Bad" defense.

What's up with that?
Bill Clinton fired droves when he took office. Replaced them with buddies.

Trump was too new not to do the same
 
Bill Clinton fired droves when he took office. Replaced them with buddies.

Trump was too new not to do the same

Actually, Clinton got a Special Prosecutor investigation for his completely legal firing of the Travel Office Staff.
 
Golly, CF, you seem so unusually obtuse on some things.
I mean by that, there have been any number of articulate and perceptive posts by others.....that clearly described that lying, getting others to lie, hiding, defying a lawful subpoena....well, those things make a difference in this kind of case and circumstance.

Yet, you ---again ---retreat into this petulant "Orange Man Bad" defense.

What's up with that?

Tell us again how it's not a crime because democrats never intend to get caught
 
It shouldn't. The FBI issued a subpoena long after she cleaned her server. You have the sequence of events wrong, as usual.

When she was no longer secretary of state, there was no reason for her to keep those emails, most of which were copied on State Department servers, anyway.

So she told the FBI, the server is clear? That's amazing! She destroyed evidence, but that's cool because she never intended to get caught
 
You have been given the indictments. Every Trump supporter I have seen thus far has failed to read them in any shape or form because you need your thinking done for you by pundits as every good dogmatic believer does. Why would anyone bother anymore.
Indictments say we are persecuting you and not Biden because we think your secret documents are what?
 
There are plenty of reasonable ways to have classified spillage that doesn't necessarily involve incompetence. But that's not the question. You are trying to argue that any such spillage automatically does, or at least should be prosecuted. Moving the goalposts from "it's criminal" to "it makes a person incompetent" is exactly that.

I responded because your analogy was faulty making the conclusion you reached on the basis of that analogy also faulty. I told you how to make it more accurate. So, here's my question.

Would you find it reasonable for a court to convict someone of shoplifting who is shown to have brought the goods back without prompting while explaining it happened inadvertently? Do you think a judge let alone a jury would convict such a person?
If you are, allegedly, competent to be the US president, that, allegedly, is supposed to be the top job in the world, then you should have the brains not to take classified documents. For fucks sake, even the US president should have the brains and ability to order a Latte out of a fucking vending machine. So what you're saying is, your presidents are thick as fuck and a janitor in outer Mongolia is more qualified. Let's be honest, a stationary object is faster than your current paedophile president.
 
You have been given the indictments. Every Trump supporter I have seen thus far has failed to read them in any shape or form because you need your thinking done for you by pundits as every good dogmatic believer does. Why would anyone bother anymore.
Fake indictments aren't worth reading.. Everyone knows what the hell is going on, and that's why Trump's pole numbers are off the chain. Stay tuned dummies..
 
So she told the FBI, the server is clear? That's amazing! She destroyed evidence, but that's cool because she never intended to get caught

She never did anything wrong.

She stopped being Secretary of State in 2013. The FBI didn't come looking for these files until 2015.

She did what almost all of us do, deleted emails that were no longer relevant.
 
She never did anything wrong.

She stopped being Secretary of State in 2013. The FBI didn't come looking for these files until 2015.

She did what almost all of us do, deleted emails that were no longer relevant.
She's wasn't like all of us (she was a government official bound by rules and protocols that we aren't bound by), but nice try agitator.
 
Not even close. Clinton wasn’t taking clearly labeled classified documents and placing them on her server. She also wasn’t trying to cover anything up.
Of course she was. that was the whole point of her home brewed server- to avoid public scrutiny. And deleting tens of thousands of emails after receiving a congressional subpoena? Give us a break.
 
Of course she was. that was the whole point of her home brewed server- to avoid public scrutiny. And deleting tens of thousands of emails after receiving a congressional subpoena? Give us a break.
Could never be proven in court. All indications were that it was used for convenience. There was no evidence Clinton ordered the server to be deleted after the subpoena.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.
 
She's wasn't like all of us (she was a government official bound by rules and protocols that we aren't bound by), but nice try agitator.

So what protocol required her to keep emails from a job three years after she left it?
 
Could never be proven in court. All indications were that it was used for convenience.
Huh? Why is more convenient? In fact, it is significantly less convenient operating and maintaining her own private server rather than using the government's system.
There was no evidence Clinton ordered the server to be deleted after the subpoena.
Just a big old coincidence that they were deleted three weeks after she received the subpoena? LOL
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
backatcha.
 
Huh? Why is more convenient? In fact, it is significantly less convenient operating and maintaining her own private server rather than using the government's system.
The government email system was horseshit. It was often down. Access was limited to devices she was unfamiliar with. It was very inconvenient and poorly functional. Clinton’s private server already existed before she became SoS. It took no additional work to repurpose it for her work.

So yeah. More convenient.
Just a big old coincidence that they were deleted three weeks after she received the subpoena? LOL
You’re going to need some more evidence than that. Is that all you have?
backatcha.
Watch and learn.
 
The government email system was horseshit. It was often down. Access was limited to devices she was unfamiliar with. It was very inconvenient and poorly functional. Clinton’s private server already existed before she became SoS. It took no additional work to repurpose it for her work.
Blah Blah Blah. Seems to have worked for the 77,000 other State Department employees.
So yeah. More convenient.

You’re going to need some more evidence than that. Is that all you have?
No, That's actually all you need. These emails were under a Congressional subpoena and they were deleted.
Watch and learn.
Sit and rotate.
 
Blah Blah Blah. Seems to have worked for the 77,000 other State Department employees.
Not well. Fact is that using her own server was more convenient for her.
No, That's actually all you need. These emails were under a Congressional subpoena and they were deleted.
No, you need more than that. Deleted by whom? Not by Clinton.
 

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