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Your continued refusal to accept that you have p'wnd here only underlines your immoral stubborness. Your unbending belief unsupported by the evidence remains adult thinkers of the type of mentality that led to auto de fes or the camps in various countries the last 100 years.
Your OP is fail.
Son, you have responded for weeks now though you say but do not act as if I am on ignore. Liberals and conservatives and libertarians alike have debunked your false allegations and poorly supported evidence.
Your OP has been a monumental failure in defending your progressive right-wind neo-conservative imperialism.
A massive failure.
Jake there has been a total of 4-6 people who have lied there way thru this entir thread
Yes I have responded to you last few acts of desperation, but your on my ignore list
I just do not take what you say serious any more
your angry we won
your angry come to find out there was more about Iraq than you were told
That's why you and drock and Ibb are so mad about these events
Look its never been about anything but 1 thing
the truth
and the truth is if any-one lied it was Saddam
There was reasons in HR 1441 to invade
Congress agreed
Clinton agreed in 98 for the same reasons
It was the right thing to do
we won
some of the cost has been off set by less funding to the UN
bases being closed in Saudi and Kuwait
and as shown many times we were fighting Al Qaeda most of the time after 2003
its that simple
what is there to debunk?
dude you need to chill, stop being hateful towards me and anyone you dis agree with/ I am not the one who told you all of those lies
Son, you have responded for weeks now though you say but do not act as if I am on ignore. Liberals and conservatives and libertarians alike have debunked your false allegations and poorly supported evidence.
Your OP has been a monumental failure in defending your progressive right-wind neo-conservative imperialism.
A massive failure.
Jake there has been a total of 4-6 people who have lied there way thru this entir thread
Yes I have responded to you last few acts of desperation, but your on my ignore list
I just do not take what you say serious any more
your angry we won
your angry come to find out there was more about Iraq than you were told
That's why you and drock and Ibb are so mad about these events
Look its never been about anything but 1 thing
the truth
and the truth is if any-one lied it was Saddam
There was reasons in HR 1441 to invade
Congress agreed
Clinton agreed in 98 for the same reasons
It was the right thing to do
we won
some of the cost has been off set by less funding to the UN
bases being closed in Saudi and Kuwait
and as shown many times we were fighting Al Qaeda most of the time after 2003
its that simple
what is there to debunk?
dude you need to chill, stop being hateful towards me and anyone you dis agree with/ I am not the one who told you all of those lies
You have to invent reasons why we don't like the war, because the basic facts we put right in front of your face don't fit your already pre-thought out assumptions.
Let me correct you for the 1,000th time (probably literally) in these threads;
1.) Obviously, I'll never be mad about the U.S. winning a war military, despite your crazy hyperbole.
2.) No I haven't found out there was more in Iraq than the media says. The exact opposite is true, I've found out there was far less in Iraq than what our gov't (dems and reps alike) led us to believe in order to get some of the american public favoring warmongering in Iraq.
3.) And I know this will never sink in but I'll repeat it just for the sake of getting the truth out, the reasons I don't like the war are the 4500 dead soldiers/10's of thousands of soldiers permanently ravaged physically and or mentally/100,000 dead Iraqis/trillions of debt we'll never have paid/putting a Hezbollah-Iran ally at the head of the country/installing an apartheid regime that's forced 100,000 minority religion members to flee the country.
Now obviously by all your posts you don't give a damn about anything I outlined in line #3, but keep pretending your position is pro-america, pro-soldier and pro-Iraqi.
Jake there has been a total of 4-6 people who have lied there way thru this entir thread
Yes I have responded to you last few acts of desperation, but your on my ignore list
I just do not take what you say serious any more
your angry we won
your angry come to find out there was more about Iraq than you were told
That's why you and drock and Ibb are so mad about these events
Look its never been about anything but 1 thing
the truth
and the truth is if any-one lied it was Saddam
There was reasons in HR 1441 to invade
Congress agreed
Clinton agreed in 98 for the same reasons
It was the right thing to do
we won
some of the cost has been off set by less funding to the UN
bases being closed in Saudi and Kuwait
and as shown many times we were fighting Al Qaeda most of the time after 2003
its that simple
what is there to debunk?
dude you need to chill, stop being hateful towards me and anyone you dis agree with/ I am not the one who told you all of those lies
You have to invent reasons why we don't like the war, because the basic facts we put right in front of your face don't fit your already pre-thought out assumptions.
Let me correct you for the 1,000th time (probably literally) in these threads;
1.) Obviously, I'll never be mad about the U.S. winning a war military, despite your crazy hyperbole.
2.) No I haven't found out there was more in Iraq than the media says. The exact opposite is true, I've found out there was far less in Iraq than what our gov't (dems and reps alike) led us to believe in order to get some of the american public favoring warmongering in Iraq.
3.) And I know this will never sink in but I'll repeat it just for the sake of getting the truth out, the reasons I don't like the war are the 4500 dead soldiers/10's of thousands of soldiers permanently ravaged physically and or mentally/100,000 dead Iraqis/trillions of debt we'll never have paid/putting a Hezbollah-Iran ally at the head of the country/installing an apartheid regime that's forced 100,000 minority religion members to flee the country.
Now obviously by all your posts you don't give a damn about anything I outlined in line #3, but keep pretending your position is pro-america, pro-soldier and pro-Iraqi.
Drock I d not pretend anything, there is no more of a person against harming our fellow human than me
Saddam was all about harming
Its why we had no choice
and for the first time your response # 3 is an opinion I have no need nor desire nor reason to debate
fleeing the country?
Al Qaeda in Iraq claims massacre at Christian church in Baghdad - The Long War Journal
Al Qaeda Group Promises Attacks On Iraqi Christians - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
Iraq : al-Qaeda kill 46 Christians - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum
Al-Qaeda in Iraq threatens attacks on Christians - USATODAY.com
not sure why you ahve ignored these people and keep blaming the ones we are helping
thats your world of denial I guess
You have to invent reasons why we don't like the war, because the basic facts we put right in front of your face don't fit your already pre-thought out assumptions.
Let me correct you for the 1,000th time (probably literally) in these threads;
1.) Obviously, I'll never be mad about the U.S. winning a war military, despite your crazy hyperbole.
2.) No I haven't found out there was more in Iraq than the media says. The exact opposite is true, I've found out there was far less in Iraq than what our gov't (dems and reps alike) led us to believe in order to get some of the american public favoring warmongering in Iraq.
3.) And I know this will never sink in but I'll repeat it just for the sake of getting the truth out, the reasons I don't like the war are the 4500 dead soldiers/10's of thousands of soldiers permanently ravaged physically and or mentally/100,000 dead Iraqis/trillions of debt we'll never have paid/putting a Hezbollah-Iran ally at the head of the country/installing an apartheid regime that's forced 100,000 minority religion members to flee the country.
Now obviously by all your posts you don't give a damn about anything I outlined in line #3, but keep pretending your position is pro-america, pro-soldier and pro-Iraqi.
Drock I d not pretend anything, there is no more of a person against harming our fellow human than me
Saddam was all about harming
Its why we had no choice
and for the first time your response # 3 is an opinion I have no need nor desire nor reason to debate
fleeing the country?
Al Qaeda in Iraq claims massacre at Christian church in Baghdad - The Long War Journal
Al Qaeda Group Promises Attacks On Iraqi Christians - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
Iraq : al-Qaeda kill 46 Christians - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum
Al-Qaeda in Iraq threatens attacks on Christians - USATODAY.com
not sure why you ahve ignored these people and keep blaming the ones we are helping
thats your world of denial I guess
Every single thing I posted in #3 is a fact, not an opinion. You're just trying to discount facts that don't help you.
What christians in Iraq are getting help? They're fleeing a country they felt they were safe in under Saddam. Now that's run by a Hezbollah/Iranian agent who's our pal, they have to evacuate the country at never before seen rates.
Soon with the apartheid gov't we installed in Iraq, the christian population in Iraq will be zero. And that's what you call a success and stable.
Drock I d not pretend anything, there is no more of a person against harming our fellow human than me
Saddam was all about harming
Its why we had no choice
and for the first time your response # 3 is an opinion I have no need nor desire nor reason to debate
fleeing the country?
Al Qaeda in Iraq claims massacre at Christian church in Baghdad - The Long War Journal
Al Qaeda Group Promises Attacks On Iraqi Christians - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
Iraq : al-Qaeda kill 46 Christians - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum
Al-Qaeda in Iraq threatens attacks on Christians - USATODAY.com
not sure why you ahve ignored these people and keep blaming the ones we are helping
thats your world of denial I guess
Every single thing I posted in #3 is a fact, not an opinion. You're just trying to discount facts that don't help you.
What christians in Iraq are getting help? They're fleeing a country they felt they were safe in under Saddam. Now that's run by a Hezbollah/Iranian agent who's our pal, they have to evacuate the country at never before seen rates.
Soon with the apartheid gov't we installed in Iraq, the christian population in Iraq will be zero. And that's what you call a success and stable.
Drock your ignoring who it is that are harming the Christians
also the rest of you thread is about the same, chill out Drock
you were lied to, you were made a fool of and now that we won the I told you so argument is gone
and one other thing
trying to convince anyone Saddam was better than whats been voted to be in charge now is going to be tuff when Saddam killed 1 million of his own people it is alleged
Al Qaeda has killed about 100k sense they began to build up the forces in 02
It later emerged that [Abu Musab] al-Zarqawi, the deputy to bin Laden, had come to Iraq in May 2002, had had meetings with senior Iraqis and established a presence there in October 2002. This intelligence has not been withdrawn, by the way. Probably we should have paid more attention to its significance, but we were so keen not to make a false claim about al Qaeda and Saddam that we somewhat understated it, at least on the British side.
Former CIA director George Tenet reveals in his own autobiography, At the Center of the Storm, some of the intelligence that backed up Powells presentation. More than one dozen other al Qaeda terrorists had joined Zarqawi in Baghdad. One of them was an Egyptian known as Abu Ayyub al Masri, who had served Osama bin Ladens deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, since the 1980s. After Zarqawi was killed in 2006, al Masri took his place as the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq. Al Masri himself was killed earlier this year, and his widow confirmed that they had moved to central Baghdad in 2002.
Al Qaeda in Iraq | The Weekly Standard
Why do you keep ignoring this stuff?
JRK, telling you correctly that you are wrong, have been wrong, your "evidence" and position will continue to be wrong -- that is not hateful, simply the truth.
I doubt you have ever been engaged in critical thinking exercises where you suspend personal bias to examine all evidence. If you have and are still saying you are right, then you are immoral because the evidence clearly rebuts your positions.
Your fail is only on you, JRK, for you are the hater to continue with is lie.
The day people stop flying passenger jets into skyscrapers, we will get out of the removing of terror and terror supporting groups from the ME
The day people stop flying passenger jets into skyscrapers, we will get out of the removing of terror and terror supporting groups from the ME
That explains our attacking al Qaeda and the Taliban, which I already supported.
It does not explain our presence across the rest of the middle east, why we are trying to engage in nation building in afghanistan or government securing oil supplies rather then the private market doing it.
The day people stop flying passenger jets into skyscrapers, we will get out of the removing of terror and terror supporting groups from the ME
That explains our attacking al Qaeda and the Taliban, which I already supported.
It does not explain our presence across the rest of the middle east, why we are trying to engage in nation building in afghanistan or government securing oil supplies rather then the private market doing it.
Were are we at in the remainder of the ME?
we have weeks left in Iraq and that victory will be complete
we are out of Saudi, thanks to removing Saddam
And we have to be close to being out of Kuwait, Thanks to removing Saddam
and as far oil goes, we have far more oil right here than we need. we are not allowed tio touch it (I think that's about to change)
JRK, telling you correctly that you are wrong, have been wrong, your "evidence" and position will continue to be wrong -- that is not hateful, simply the truth.
I doubt you have ever been engaged in critical thinking exercises where you suspend personal bias to examine all evidence. If you have and are still saying you are right, then you are immoral because the evidence clearly rebuts your positions.
Your fail is only on you, JRK, for you are the hater to continue with is lie.
Jake we have lost 6 million jobs sense 2008
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
now that truth and the the truth that is the same info such as Al Qaeda being in Iraq before we invaded is not my truth
Its just the truth thats all
That explains our attacking al Qaeda and the Taliban, which I already supported.
It does not explain our presence across the rest of the middle east, why we are trying to engage in nation building in afghanistan or government securing oil supplies rather then the private market doing it.
Were are we at in the remainder of the ME?
we have weeks left in Iraq and that victory will be complete
we are out of Saudi, thanks to removing Saddam
And we have to be close to being out of Kuwait, Thanks to removing Saddam
and as far oil goes, we have far more oil right here than we need. we are not allowed tio touch it (I think that's about to change)
Wow, a little hand waving and suddenly we aren't in the middle east and oil isn't a problem. That's some serious twisting, don't hurt yourself there...
Don't cry, I had to tease you since nothing you posted countered what I said.Were are we at in the remainder of the ME?
we have weeks left in Iraq and that victory will be complete
we are out of Saudi, thanks to removing Saddam
And we have to be close to being out of Kuwait, Thanks to removing Saddam
and as far oil goes, we have far more oil right here than we need. we are not allowed tio touch it (I think that's about to change)
Wow, a little hand waving and suddenly we aren't in the middle east and oil isn't a problem. That's some serious twisting, don't hurt yourself there...
Is that the best you can do?
you make some accusations that are baseless, I respond, did it hurt your feelings?
I never said we are not in the ME
Our oil problem is a result of the EPA a hell of allot more than anything else
U.S. HAS MASSIVE OIL
