Will Blacks Abandon the Democrat Party?

[candycorn]

Blacks don't care if it was justifed or not. They aren't going to think logically as everything is emotional to them.

They want black police, government, etc. I say give them it and separate! They will and are demanding it as we speak.

Anyone thinking Blacks will join conservatives has some screws loose.

 

[candycorn]

Everything is white this and white that. Blacks are truly racist to the core. Ebola is a virus that kills 50% of its victims....I bet these idiots wouldn't understand what that means.

 

[GreenBean]

blacks have been brainwashed for centuries by Democrats to see themselves as little children.

This sort of patronizing racism is why blacks will never vote Republican

And those using it are morons for thinking they can scream how all blacks are stupid, and still get them to vote Republican. Being a patronizing racist just isn't a vote-getter.

What ? You think Whitey can't be brainwashed ? There's many simpleminded brainwashed Whites walking around - we call them Liberals

 

[GreenBean]

Democrats get a free pass when it comes to racist remarks.

“I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.” – Joe Biden,

a ‘light-skinned’ African American with ‘no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.’” - Harry Reid

"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." - Lyndon Johnson

"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." - Al Sharpton

"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. - Harry Truman

"You fucking Jew Bastard." Hillary Clinton

“Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” — Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

“There are white n*ggers. I’ve seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time.” — US Senator Robert Byrd

The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won’t pay for much family planning.” — Jocelyn Elders

“We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders.” — Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992

The Hillary Clinton quote is a lie, based on a rumor. I bet that a number of those other quotes are also so. Is this all the Right has to dish up? You poor people.

I believe you are Mistaken [again]

......one particularly shocking passage in the book, Oppenheimer quotes a campaign official who describes an angry attack by Hillary in which she screams at him, "You fucking Jew bastard!"
Two sourced eyewitnesses confirmed to Oppenheimer that they heard the verbal assault.
[Sources tell DRUDGE that Dick Morris is not the campaign official.]

"One anti-Semitic slur slung in anger hardly defines a person, and Hillary has always had a tendency when angry to go for the gut," Oppenheimer writes. But, unfortunately, according to UNION, that was neither the first nor the last time Hillary had used such a slur. And there is a darker side to the story.

...........According to the book, Hillary's mother, Dorothy Rodham, held a life-long grudge against Rosenberg, and made Jewish slurs, according to an on the record family member quoted by Oppenheimer. HIllary Jewish Slurs Claimed In New Book

And the names of those witnesses?

Oh, please, you live in a fantasy world.

Stat, you really love calling people liars.

Get off your lazy ass and Google it or stfu.

Googling or binging a rumor doesn't make it any more true.

I ask again: is there video or audio to back up this allegation?

You're Funny ..... In a "special" sort of way ... Just like these videos

 

[Statistikhengst]

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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[GreenBean]

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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Lincoln once made a speech that contained the statement "four score and 7 years ago..." It's been quoted time and time again - but by your logic it never happened.

There's a patch of woods outside my window - a tree is lying on its side in those woods - it fell - there was no one there to hear it - Did it make a Noise ?

Hillary used the term "You Fucking Jew Bastard" and there are other quotes as well from other lefties - there were people there to hear them - yes they did make a noise , and you're an Ass .


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[rightwinger]

OK - I think the tards have been debunked pretty thoroughly. So now can we start the REAL discussion? Will a democrat garner 92% of black voters with a higher percentage of blacks voting than whites in 2016?

IMHO probably not. But I think the Obama campaign was masterful at identifying their voters and getting them to the polls in 2012 especially. So will the 2016 Democrat be able to pick up on those techniques and surprise us again? I think it is possible, but I don't think Hillary Clinton will be able to generate the same level of turnout.

Just MHO.

Bill Clinton did very well with the black vote. Will blacks wait in line for hours for Hillary like they did for Obama? Probably not so voter suppression techniques may be effective
But will women turn out for Hillary? Probably yes

 

[rightwinger]

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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Lincoln once made a speech that contained the statement "four score and 7 years ago..." It's been quoted time and time again - but by your logic it never happened.

There's a patch of woods outside my window - a tree is lying on its side in those woods - it fell - there was no one there to hear it - Did it make a Noise ?

Hillary used the term "You Fucking Jew Bastard" and there are other quotes as well from other lefties - there were people there to hear them - yes they did make a noise , and you're an Ass .


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You are correct. And anyone who reads those quotes in a rightwing propaganda blog will probably not vote for Hillary

 

[GreenBean]

OK - I think the tards have been debunked pretty thoroughly. So now can we start the REAL discussion? Will a democrat garner 92% of black voters with a higher percentage of blacks voting than whites in 2016?

IMHO probably not. But I think the Obama campaign was masterful at identifying their voters and getting them to the polls in 2012 especially. So will the 2016 Democrat be able to pick up on those techniques and surprise us again? I think it is possible, but I don't think Hillary Clinton will be able to generate the same level of turnout.

Just MHO.

Bill Clinton did very well with the black vote. Will blacks wait in line for hours for Hillary like they did for Obama? Probably not so voter suppression techniques may be effective
But will women turn out for Hillary? Probably yes

That's very insulting to women in general - to imply that they would vote for an incompetent rag like Hillary simply because she has a vagina . Women in general are a lot more intelligent than that.

So far as 90-% of Blacks voting for Obama - If they knew then - what they know now , those numbers would be a lot different

So far as Hillary She's an Alcoholic
Hillary Clinton an Alcoholic

And She's a Liar

Admitted Lies



— Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)

— Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)

— She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)

— She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)



Whoppers She Won't Confess To



— She didn't know about the pardons of members of the violent Puerto Rico nationalist group FALN.

— She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.

— Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.

— She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.

— She didn't know that the Peter Paul fund-raiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.

— She opposed NAFTA at the time.

— She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.

— She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.

— She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.

— The Rose Law Firm billing records showed up on their own.

— She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.

— She was always a Yankees fan.

— She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400 to 12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).

— She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?

Hillary s List of Lies by Dick Morris on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

2.} She's a Self Serving Liar

Jerry Zeifman, a counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Clinton on the Watergate investigation. Zeifman’s 2006 book, “Hillary’s Pursuit of Power,” states that she “… engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules.” Hillary Fired For Lying Unethical Behavior on Watergate Committee - Downtrend

She was an incompetent Secretary of State
Hillary Lied - Americans Died


But then in your fuzzy Logic
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE !?

 

[rightwinger]

OK - I think the tards have been debunked pretty thoroughly. So now can we start the REAL discussion? Will a democrat garner 92% of black voters with a higher percentage of blacks voting than whites in 2016?

IMHO probably not. But I think the Obama campaign was masterful at identifying their voters and getting them to the polls in 2012 especially. So will the 2016 Democrat be able to pick up on those techniques and surprise us again? I think it is possible, but I don't think Hillary Clinton will be able to generate the same level of turnout.

Just MHO.

Bill Clinton did very well with the black vote. Will blacks wait in line for hours for Hillary like they did for Obama? Probably not so voter suppression techniques may be effective
But will women turn out for Hillary? Probably yes

That's very insulting to women in general - to imply that they would vote for an incompetent rag like Hillary simply because she has a vagina . Women in general are a lot more intelligent than that.

So far as 90-% of Blacks voting for Obama - If they knew then - what they know now , those numbers would be a lot different

So far as Hillary She's an Alcoholic
Hillary Clinton an Alcoholic

And She's a Liar

Admitted Lies



— Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)

— Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)

— She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)

— She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)



Whoppers She Won't Confess To



— She didn't know about the pardons of members of the violent Puerto Rico nationalist group FALN.

— She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.

— Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.

— She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.

— She didn't know that the Peter Paul fund-raiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.

— She opposed NAFTA at the time.

— She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.

— She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.

— She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.

— The Rose Law Firm billing records showed up on their own.

— She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.

— She was always a Yankees fan.

— She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400 to 12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).

— She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?

Hillary s List of Lies by Dick Morris on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

2.} She's a Self Serving Liar

Jerry Zeifman, a counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Clinton on the Watergate investigation. Zeifman’s 2006 book, “Hillary’s Pursuit of Power,” states that she “… engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules.” Hillary Fired For Lying Unethical Behavior on Watergate Committee - Downtrend

She was an incompetent Secretary of State
Hillary Lied - Americans Died


But then in your fuzzy Logic
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE !?

Tl;dr

 

[GreenBean]

OK - I think the tards have been debunked pretty thoroughly. So now can we start the REAL discussion? Will a democrat garner 92% of black voters with a higher percentage of blacks voting than whites in 2016?

IMHO probably not. But I think the Obama campaign was masterful at identifying their voters and getting them to the polls in 2012 especially. So will the 2016 Democrat be able to pick up on those techniques and surprise us again? I think it is possible, but I don't think Hillary Clinton will be able to generate the same level of turnout.

Just MHO.

Bill Clinton did very well with the black vote. Will blacks wait in line for hours for Hillary like they did for Obama? Probably not so voter suppression techniques may be effective
But will women turn out for Hillary? Probably yes

That's very insulting to women in general - to imply that they would vote for an incompetent rag like Hillary simply because she has a vagina . Women in general are a lot more intelligent than that.

So far as 90-% of Blacks voting for Obama - If they knew then - what they know now , those numbers would be a lot different

So far as Hillary She's an Alcoholic
Hillary Clinton an Alcoholic

And She's a Liar

Admitted Lies



— Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)

— Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)

— She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)

— She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)



Whoppers She Won't Confess To



— She didn't know about the pardons of members of the violent Puerto Rico nationalist group FALN.

— She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.

— Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.

— She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.

— She didn't know that the Peter Paul fund-raiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.

— She opposed NAFTA at the time.

— She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.

— She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.

— She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.

— The Rose Law Firm billing records showed up on their own.

— She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.

— She was always a Yankees fan.

— She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400 to 12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).

— She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

With a record like that, is it any wonder that we suspect her of being less than honest and straightforward?

Hillary s List of Lies by Dick Morris on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

2.} She's a Self Serving Liar

Jerry Zeifman, a counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Clinton on the Watergate investigation. Zeifman’s 2006 book, “Hillary’s Pursuit of Power,” states that she “… engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules.” Hillary Fired For Lying Unethical Behavior on Watergate Committee - Downtrend

She was an incompetent Secretary of State
Hillary Lied - Americans Died


But then in your fuzzy Logic
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE !?

Tl;dr

Sorry Norton - that post wasn't intended for sewer rats - it was for thinking people ... here's something you might comprehend

 

[NoNukes]

OK - I think the tards have been debunked pretty thoroughly. So now can we start the REAL discussion? Will a democrat garner 92% of black voters with a higher percentage of blacks voting than whites in 2016?

IMHO probably not. But I think the Obama campaign was masterful at identifying their voters and getting them to the polls in 2012 especially. So will the 2016 Democrat be able to pick up on those techniques and surprise us again? I think it is possible, but I don't think Hillary Clinton will be able to generate the same level of turnout.

Just MHO.

I will be particularly interested in the 2016 election as I like studying the effect the media has on the public. I fully expect the Reps to win just from past history. I wonder however, how badly the Reps will misjudge the conditions again. Will they go over board with the anti minority, anti gay, and anti women social agendas? In other words will they just give it away yet again?

I think Black people will hit the polls in close to the same numbers regardless and I dont see them voting for any republican unless they have convincing evidence they are not racist. As far as republicans go they are guilty until proven innocent.

I think it would be an epic collapse for the GOP if a Democrat wins in 2016. But I've seen it before and I haven't been seeing anything different from the current crop of GOP hopefuls. I just wonder - for example - if the Democratic nominee is Hillary Clinton, will there be some black voters who hold some of her 2008 campaign tactics against her?

No. Initially, she may get some flack but if the alternative is a republican Black people will support her.

Bill is popular with Blacks, and that should help her.

 

[Ernie S.]

Because democrats take them for granted and made many dependent on handedouts without proving jobs.

Good God that is so opposite of how blacks percieve the Obama admin.

I think you're expressing what righty media wishes blacks thought about Obama's admin

So why did Obama send Eric Holder and Sharpton with other black leftists down to Ferguson and the Trayvon Martin fiasco?

Remind me what sending Eric Holder and Sharpton with other black leftists down to Ferguson and the Trayvon Martin fiasco has to do with the ridiculous fantasy that black Democrats are any closer to voting Republican?

Yup, you Democrats own their black asses.

Happy now?

I am not attacking you with this but want to honestly know: do you have any idea in the world what a fellow black citizen is likely to think of you when he reads that?

What you just wrote is essentially the entire problem that the GOP has: it just cannot stop hating on people it would really like to recruit into the part.

This is a lot like a boxer, when he sees a right hook coming at him, simply leans into it.

By "black asses", I think Mudwhistle was referring to Holder and Sharpton.

 

[Statistikhengst]

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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Lincoln once made a speech that contained the statement "four score and 7 years ago..." It's been quoted time and time again - but by your logic it never happened.

There's a patch of woods outside my window - a tree is lying on its side in those woods - it fell - there was no one there to hear it - Did it make a Noise ?

Hillary used the term "You Fucking Jew Bastard" and there are other quotes as well from other lefties - there were people there to hear them - yes they did make a noise , and you're an Ass .


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There is a large difference between a public speech, attended by many and protocolled, and a rumor of a privately issued comment that may never have happened. I would hope you would be smart enough to know the difference.

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[mamooth]

Greenbean, please keep up what you're doing. We Democrats appreciate the votes you bring us.

 

[GreenBean]

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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Lincoln once made a speech that contained the statement "four score and 7 years ago..." It's been quoted time and time again - but by your logic it never happened.

There's a patch of woods outside my window - a tree is lying on its side in those woods - it fell - there was no one there to hear it - Did it make a Noise ?

Hillary used the term "You Fucking Jew Bastard" and there are other quotes as well from other lefties - there were people there to hear them - yes they did make a noise , and you're an Ass .


Sich Schwer blamieren

There is a large difference between a public speech, attended by many and protocolled, and a rumor of a privately issued comment that may never have happened. I would hope you would be smart enough to know the difference.

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So you are saying that the tree that fell in the forest didn't make a noise -- okay gotcha . And it was not a rumor there are witnesses - get your story straight . One of the witnesses was a Democratic Party Campaign Manager - it was brought to light by a reputable Author Jerry Oppenheimer . Your Goddess is a racist

 

[Ibentoken]

The biggest problem that the GOP has with women and minorities is that they don't talk TO women and minorities, they talk AT women and minorities. Big difference. Their way doesn't work.

Systemic racism within the Republican Party is minimal, but tolerated in an unsettling way as well.

No, the biggest problem is liberals own the media. The Republicans aren't able to fight their way through the constant negative propaganda.

The right has plenty of advocacy media outlets. Fox, Rush, Breitbart, Drudge, USA Toady, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Examiner.....and so on.

Prior to 1996, the big 3 networks were center left, and scandals were what they went after on both sides. Watergate was a great example of a conservative reporter (Woodward) and a liberal reporter (Bernstein) working together to blow the lid off of Watergate.

When Fox News showed up, using Rupert Murdoch's successful business models of conservative networks in Australia and the UK, the news for righties became far right, to the point of simply being GOP propaganda. Since then, the left has begun to imitate that business model and created MSNBC. Now there are plenty of 24 hour/day new networks to confirm what you think is right.

I don't think those networks brain wash people, they simply hold focus groups that find out how people react, and what they want to be true, then tell them that.

Most of the anchors on MSNBC and Fox, Chris Wallace excluded, do not have journalism degrees, they have communications degrees. Which used to be common to political strategists, not reporters.

Of course the far left media outlets don't claim to be fair and balanced. Fox pulls that maneuver very well. They afford liberal points of view, so they can offer statistics showing equal time given to opposing opinion...but the liberals they feature, Jon Stewart or Obama excluded, are a mixed bag of ineffectual and "has been" Democrats. A great example of people who can't find work with Democrats anymore. Doug Schoen, Pat Caddel, Alan Colmes, and so on. MSNBC has the same thing, Steve Schmidt, Nicole Wallace, and Michael Steele.

The right has never been represented by a center right media network, or been given actual journalism to mentally digest. Which explains the rift in GOP politics. What remains are fringes. RINOs VS Tea Party/Militia types.

Some good points here. But MSNBC and Fox offer very little in the way of balance. One offers the far left view, the other the far right view. Just count how many times a "story" is based on one source - a source that shares the slant of the network - without any other viewpoints. I've done a few counts on that - it's shockingly poor journalism.

But in this day and age where so many media outlets - with so many different slants - are available, it is absurd to suggest that a particular point of view is being "buried."

Just absurd foolishness.

Hitler pulled some of the same shit Obama is pulling. I don't think any of this is funny and neither should you.

Any comparison of any of our Presidents, including Pres. Obama, to Adolph Hitler, is just plain old sick. You quite obviously do not know your history.

Comparing him to one of the most murderous dictators in all of history is an insult to the memory of the many millions who died under Hitler. Dwight D. Eisenhower would be spitting at you right now, I am quite sure.

Shame on you.

Nope, shame on you for ignoring

So, you can't prove the "quotes".

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Lincoln once made a speech that contained the statement "four score and 7 years ago..." It's been quoted time and time again - but by your logic it never happened.

There's a patch of woods outside my window - a tree is lying on its side in those woods - it fell - there was no one there to hear it - Did it make a Noise ?

Hillary used the term "You Fucking Jew Bastard" and there are other quotes as well from other lefties - there were people there to hear them - yes they did make a noise , and you're an Ass .


Sich Schwer blamieren

There is a large difference between a public speech, attended by many and protocolled, and a rumor of a privately issued comment that may never have happened. I would hope you would be smart enough to know the difference.

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[Bush92]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

But you still have history in public schools and college campuses that teach all Whites are evil.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

But you still have history in public schools and college campuses that teach all Whites are evil.

Examples? Books? Editions? Publishers? Years? Press coverage? Court decisions?

 

[GreenBean]

Blacks voted overwhelmingly for Obama both times. In return they have suffered more during this economy than whites. Most blacks are socially conservative and are horrified at the gay marriage business. Recall that black churches were instrumental in defeating the ballot measure in CA.

So having been screwed financially, having been promised a bunch of stuff that still hasnt been delivered on, having their values crapped all over, will blacks get the idea that Democrats are the party to exploit them and at least stay home on election day?

But you still have history in public schools and college campuses that teach all Whites are evil.

Examples? Books? Editions? Publishers? Years? Press coverage? Court decisions?

Start Here >>> LINK

And if that's too advanced your simple little liberal mind - continue here .....


As per the Leftist School Texts the founding of the United States was not about Liberty, Freedom, Democracy and inalienable rights, but only a struggle for the best interests of powerful white property owners. Ignored is the fact that most of these powerful white property owners were Tories [British sympathizers]

Slavery, as per the leftists was a racist institution instituted by rich white men against Africans, ignored is the fact that the slavery of the 16th - 19th centuries originated with Moslem traders and the slaves were used as a currency for the transfer of goods and chattels for other goods and chattels by African chiefs and kings. The Europeans and Americans simply jumped on the band wagon. [See: Origins of American Slavery ]

The civil war was not about freeing the slaves or preservation of the union, but about economic competition between the industrial north and the agrarian south in the best interests of Rich white Industrialists and wealthy plantation owners. Ignored is the fact that the men actually doing the fighting , on both sides, fit into neither of these categories. The epic saga of perseverance , endurance and hardships endured by Western Settlers to create a civilization from the wilderness is a moot point. Instead the Westward movement is depicted as a crazed Genocidal advance of greedy and power lusting white men. The Myth of a Noble Savage is perpetuated, and a false image of Native Americans living in perfect peaceful harmony with nature and symbiotic coexistence with one another is depicted. In fact with only extremely rare exceptions Native Americans, as all primitive peoples lived in a state of continual warfare amongst themselves and other tribes. They endured a very low life expectancy 30-35 years at best, infant mortality, disease and death from intertribal warfare drove many tribes into extinction long before the whites even arrived. Did we "Steal" their lands - yes the civilized people did conquer the Americas from the primitive natives - find a nation somewhere in the world that did not at some point in its history conquer its lands. Conquest certainly is not acceptable by today's standards, but the standards of the 16th - 19th Centuries - yes it was. The concept of White Guilt or white privilege , and minority victimization is a common theme perpetrated on students at all levels of the educational system. One prime example is an American Diversity class taught at many schools , but one that made the News was at Delavan-Darien High School in Wisconsin. The students are basically taught if you are white, you are oppressing. If you are non white, you have been a victim. The course, and others like it at nearly all American institutions of "higher" learning is little more than race baiting.

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