Wisconsin GOP: Forcing Women To Undergo Transvaginal Ultrasounds Is Our ‘Priority"

[Noomi]

They will if they kill their child.

But instead of protecting innocent life, you encourage killing them.

Do you want to pay more taxes to support the babies that will be born? Want to see more single mums on welfare?

1) They will pay more taxes than they are now.

2) No. I want parents to step up and take care of their responsibilities instead of falling for your lies and trying to run away from them.

3) I know personal responsibility is an idea you have absolutely no concept of, but it's a fundamental principle of being a free people. You cannot govern yourself if you refuse to take responsibility for your actions. You cannot govern yourself if you constantly run from responsibility.

4) I dont want to see single mums. I want to see men step up and take responsibility for their children. Something vile men have been using abortion to avoid since it became legal.

5) You need to stop lying to people and making these false dichotemies. It's not abort or raise our taxes. There are many more abortions than that. Making adoption laws easier. Ecouraging people to actually marry.

Why do you guys feel the need to lie so much to support abortion? Be honest, even if it's just to yourself. It's not healthy.

You would force everyone else to pay more taxes to support a child YOU wanted born?

 

[Zona]

Right, because abortions are not invasive. I mean sticking a vaginal vacuum into a woman's cervix after going into her vagina to suck out her unborn baby is not invasive, but going only into her vagina is...

But when a woman choices to get an abortion, that is part of the procedure. This (what this fucker is trying) is damn near rape in my opinion.


Fuck him. Make him get a fist up his ass and see if he likes it.

 

[Avatar4321]

You want to see babies vacuumed out of their mothers...and I'M a sick fuck?

Eat shit, kid.

vroom vroom......Least i dont want to strip peoples rights away with more government...

And yes you are a lonely sick fuck.

Some folks may be wondering about my passion on this subject.

My wife and I have lost two babies to miscarriage. Dear God, but that hurt. It still does. We console ourselves knowing we'll get to hold our lost babies in Heaven.

I simply cannot understand why anyone would knowingly choose to throw away something that precious.

I just can't.

So, kid, you can fuck off with your demand for more and more abortions, you twisted little bastard.

I know exactly how you feel. When you lose a child, the nonsense arguments to support killing children become so transparent. The lengths they go to try to pretend the children aren't human. It's one of the worst human rights violations of our generation.

 

[Zona]

Right, because abortions are not invasive. I mean sticking a vaginal vacuum into a woman's cervix after going into her vagina to suck out her unborn baby is not invasive, but going only into her vagina is...

An internal ultrasound is not necessary, and there is no medical reason why she needs to have one.

Force men to have a rectal exam before they get a prescription for Viagra, see how they howl the roof down then.

 

[Avatar4321]

They will if they kill their child.

But instead of protecting innocent life, you encourage killing them.

Do you want to pay more taxes to support the babies that will be born? Want to see more single mums on welfare?

I would like to see some personal responsibility before we get to pregnancy.

Afterwords is good too.

 

[Noomi]

The right to privacy doesn't allow you to kill another human being.

Abortion is legal. How is a fetus a human being, again?

It's a child. You want to try to pretend a 17 year old is a child despite the definition specifically including those up to being a teenager. And yet you want to deny an unborn baby is a child with the definition specifically says it is.

How is a child not a human being? What do you think is growing in a woman's uterous, a dog?

slavery was legal at one point too. Doesn't change the fact that it's complete evil and vile.

A fetus is not a child, you retard. What rights does it have?

A fetus has no rights. It is not a person.

Yeah, progs have a way of defining anyone they find inconvenient as not human. Babies, old people, political dissidents...

Makes it easier to murder them, doesn't it?

Don't forget this is also the same mentality that Germans had when slaughtering Jews...and white slave owners about blacks.

You have invoked Godwin's Law. Congratulations, you just lost the argument.

I notice you're pretending the study I posted showing 98% of abortions are elective simply doesn't exist.

You can ignore reality if you like. But it doesn't make it go away.

Who gives a fuck if they are elective? Why is that justification for this stupid ultrasound bill?

So, you're on record as being okay with abortion as birth control.

Damn, that's fucked up.

So what? Just because YOU hate abortion does not mean you have the right to demand it be banned.

 

[Avatar4321]

The baby you're so leg-tingly about killing, boy, is a genetically-distinct human being. It has rights, too.

But you don't give a shit about that. You just want to rack up more dead babies.

Mindless little bastard.

A fetus has no rights. It is not a person.

Yeah, progs have a way of defining anyone they find inconvenient as not human. Babies, old people, political dissidents...

Makes it easier to murder them, doesn't it?

Over 100 years of history and they still haven't learned.

You forgot to add Jew.

 

[Mertex]

Wow that's a profound point...

Tell that to Google, she/he doesn't seem to know that.

I understand that you believe terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment--because ultimately you view the two as the same. Pregnancy is a disease or a disfunction that needs to be treated. You have a perverse view of the subject.

You don't understand anything at all. I never said terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment, you're making shit up. But, it is rather obvious that Republicans don't consider women much, since they seem to be okay with Viagra being paid by the insurance companies, but want to make sure women pay for contraceptives.

If you want to do away with abortions, doing away with contraceptives isn't going help. Maybe if righties could figure that out, they wouldn't come up with such idiotic ideas.

 

[Noomi]

Tell that to Google, she/he doesn't seem to know that.

I understand that you believe terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment--because ultimately you view the two as the same. Pregnancy is a disease or a disfunction that needs to be treated. You have a perverse view of the subject.

You don't understand anything at all. I never said terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment, you're making shit up. But, it is rather obvious that Republicans don't consider women much, since they seem to be okay with Viagra being paid by the insurance companies, but want to make sure women pay for contraceptives.

If you want to do away with abortions, doing away with contraceptives isn't going help. Maybe if righties could figure that out, they wouldn't come up with such idiotic ideas.

Oh my, what hypocrisy! Tell me, how do they defend this?

 

[Avatar4321]

law says you are wrong twat.You knew this already is still felt the need to lie.

Stop ruining the constitution to fit your warped values. We don't live in a theocracy. Please go move to the ME, maybe you can run into some terrorists or something.

The law is wrong. The Constitution says NOTHING about abortion. It never has. It never will. No matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

We are talking about human rights. Not religion. Does it bother you at all that you support an evil worse than slavery? Does it bother you that millions of human being have been killed because you think people should be able to conveniently kill their children?

You've got blood on your hand. And your mental gymnastics to justify your bad policies, doesn't make you any less innocent.

Really you don't understand case law huh?

I dont need to go any further in your post. You just showed how ignorant you really are.

Lol. I know enough to realize case law isn't the Constitution. You might want to learn that sometime.

I have to say it is amusing for you to accuse me of ignorance when you make such an ignorant statement. Thank you for the laugh.

 

[Avatar4321]

stop lying

He's not lying...if the Bill is passed the woman can choose to have an abortion with the ultra sound procedure or not have an abortion...see...choice.

The point is that she is forced to undergo an unnecessary procedure, at her own expense, just because some lifer tools think she might 'change her mind'.

So why don't you want her to make an informed decision?

 

[Noomi]

He's not lying...if the Bill is passed the woman can choose to have an abortion with the ultra sound procedure or not have an abortion...see...choice.

The point is that she is forced to undergo an unnecessary procedure, at her own expense, just because some lifer tools think she might 'change her mind'.

So why don't you want her to make an informed decision?

She already does make an informed decision, without your help.

 

[Avatar4321]

Do you want to pay more taxes to support the babies that will be born? Want to see more single mums on welfare?

1) They will pay more taxes than they are now.

2) No. I want parents to step up and take care of their responsibilities instead of falling for your lies and trying to run away from them.

3) I know personal responsibility is an idea you have absolutely no concept of, but it's a fundamental principle of being a free people. You cannot govern yourself if you refuse to take responsibility for your actions. You cannot govern yourself if you constantly run from responsibility.

4) I dont want to see single mums. I want to see men step up and take responsibility for their children. Something vile men have been using abortion to avoid since it became legal.

5) You need to stop lying to people and making these false dichotemies. It's not abort or raise our taxes. There are many more abortions than that. Making adoption laws easier. Ecouraging people to actually marry.

Why do you guys feel the need to lie so much to support abortion? Be honest, even if it's just to yourself. It's not healthy.

You would force everyone else to pay more taxes to support a child YOU wanted born?

You are just completely ignoring what I am writing aren't you? What did I just say about lying to people by using false dichotemies?

 

[Plasmaball]

The law is wrong. The Constitution says NOTHING about abortion. It never has. It never will. No matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

We are talking about human rights. Not religion. Does it bother you at all that you support an evil worse than slavery? Does it bother you that millions of human being have been killed because you think people should be able to conveniently kill their children?

You've got blood on your hand. And your mental gymnastics to justify your bad policies, doesn't make you any less innocent.

Really you don't understand case law huh?

I dont need to go any further in your post. You just showed how ignorant you really are.

Lol. I know enough to realize case law isn't the Constitution. You might want to learn that sometime.

I have to say it is amusing for you to accuse me of ignorance when you make such an ignorant statement. Thank you for the laugh.

you are worthless.

 

[Dot Com]

this is a major reason why Rove has lost all his hair, having to deal w/ the Repub Base after all these years

 

[Avatar4321]

A fetus is not a child, you retard. What rights does it have?

Yes it is. You know that because we've had a discussion of what a child is this afternoon. The definition includes and unborn baby. Your choice to lie to yourself doesn't change the definition of words. Your attempt to dehumanize someone you want to feel good about killing, doesn't make them any less human.

You have invoked Godwin's Law. Congratulations, you just lost the argument.

In other words, she pointed out an accurate analogy to the nazis. A political group who just loved dehumanize people they wanted dead. Oh wait, that's exactly what you are trying to do.

Progressives have been making the same arguments for the last 100 years that you are. And those arguments always lead to death on a massive scale. That's what happens when you try to say a certain group of people aren't really people.

So what? Just because YOU hate abortion does not mean you have the right to demand it be banned.

Actually, that's exactly what living in a representative government means. That's why we have the right to free speech. That is why we have the right to petition our government. To demand our government end the evils it promotes.

 

[Noomi]

I will support a ban on abortion if all lifers are forced to adopt at least one unwanted child.

Fair is fair. You love babies so much, you can adopt one.

 

[Avatar4321]

I understand that you believe terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment--because ultimately you view the two as the same. Pregnancy is a disease or a disfunction that needs to be treated. You have a perverse view of the subject.

You don't understand anything at all. I never said terminating a pregnancy is equivalent to a man with ED getting treatment, you're making shit up. But, it is rather obvious that Republicans don't consider women much, since they seem to be okay with Viagra being paid by the insurance companies, but want to make sure women pay for contraceptives.

If you want to do away with abortions, doing away with contraceptives isn't going help. Maybe if righties could figure that out, they wouldn't come up with such idiotic ideas.

Oh my, what hypocrisy! Tell me, how do they defend this?

No one forces insurance companies to pay for viagra. They voluntarily contract with people. People are free to not take their insurance or not pay for it.

No one forces insurance companies to pay for contraceptives, though I know you want them to.

Not to mention men pay for contraceptives all the time. See Condoms don't get sold solely to one gender.

Do you know what hypocrisy is? If you did, i dont think you'd live like you are.

Maybe Republican men arent worried about forcing insurance companies to cover viagra because we don't need it.

 

[Avatar4321]

The point is that she is forced to undergo an unnecessary procedure, at her own expense, just because some lifer tools think she might 'change her mind'.

So why don't you want her to make an informed decision?

She already does make an informed decision, without your help.

Which is why women overwhelmingly make a pro life decision when they are given the information you don't want them to have.

 

[Noomi]

Maybe Republican men arent worried about forcing insurance companies to cover viagra because we don't need it.

Yep, Republican men just continue to get it up in their twilight years, don't they?