With His 'Afghanistan Plan' Defense Secretary Jim Mattis Is Looking To Get Fired

[BertramN]

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It's difficult for rational people to believe, but Big Orange’s administration just keeps raising the bar for conservative stupidity. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is to propose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

It's been obvious from the beginning that there is no end to the idiocy of Big Orange or his Cabinet. Like other conservatives, Mattis has forgotten the Soviet Union’s disastrous experience in Afghanistan, and has chosen to ignore the fact that during the many years U.S. troops have spent there, they have fared no better.

Mattis knows it is a Republican/conservative obligation to kill as many troops as possible in order to line the pockets of U.S. war profiteers with hundreds-of-billions of dollars.

But he has also forgotten the war Big Orange wants to fight with North Korea. So, is it wise to send troops to the Middle East, when so many, many more Americans can be killed in the Far East?

Admittedly, there is still much money to be made in killing, wounding, and maiming service personnel in Afghanistan. But, is it a sound business decision, when the potential profits on the Korean Peninsula would reach well into multi-trillions-of-dollars?

Knowing there are vast sums of money to be made, the congressional Republicans would have no qualms about declaring war on North Korea. Mattis knows this, and knows they serve the interests of the same fat cats as he and Big Orange. So why is Mattis wasting their time, and his own, with such a mediocre plan as sending more troops to Afghanistan?

Come on Mattis, do the job you were chosen to do. More troops to Afghanistan? That’s thinking small. Keep this kind of crap up, and the Big Orange Head will fire you.

'We are not winning in Afghanistan': Mattis signals new war 'strategy' before Congress

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[Billy_Kinetta]

Better to send 5000 MOABs and be done with it, but that would offend the European governments.

 

[candycorn]

Strange as it is, Mattis is probably one of the few people in the Cabinet I trust to do the right thing 24/7. I've been burned before by both parties on this. He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing. The best political endorsement I have ever heard (most of it bullshit) was when he nominated GWB at the RNC in 2000. Zell Miller was a Georgia (I believe) Democrat who simply was embittered by the shift of his party away from his rock solid core beliefs. He found a home for them with GWB. Paraphrasing here, "I knocked on the door of the man's soul and found somebody home." The poetry!!! This was after he had ripped John Kerry multiple new assholes and his famous, "He wants to defend America; with what, SPITBALLS!!!!"

I always thought Miller would have made an interesting choice for SECDEF. He would definitely keep our enemies up at night. Anyway, Mattis reminds me of him; a guy who would have served comfortably and ably in administrations of either party.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Mattis should be a good SecDef, but we cannot win a low intensity insurgency as long as the enemy has sanctuaries.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Laugh it up, fuzzball. All true. I met quite a pantheon of celebrities as a kid.

 

[frigidweirdo]

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It's difficult for rational people to believe, but Big Orange’s administration just keeps raising the bar for conservative stupidity. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is to propose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

It's been obvious from the beginning that there is no end to the idiocy of Big Orange or his Cabinet. Like other conservatives, Mattis has forgotten the Soviet Union’s disastrous experience in Afghanistan, and has chosen to ignore the fact that during the many years U.S. troops have spent there, they have fared no better.

Mattis knows it is a Republican/conservative obligation to kill as many troops as possible in order to line the pockets of U.S. war profiteers with hundreds-of-billions of dollars.

But he has also forgotten the war Big Orange wants to fight with North Korea. So, is it wise to send troops to the Middle East, when so many, many more Americans can be killed in the Far East?

Admittedly, there is still much money to be made in killing, wounding, and maiming service personnel in Afghanistan. But, is it a sound business decision, when the potential profits on the Korean Peninsula would reach well into multi-trillions-of-dollars?

Knowing there are vast sums of money to be made, the congressional Republicans would have no qualms about declaring war on North Korea. Mattis knows this, and knows they serve the interests of the same fat cats as he and Big Orange. So why is Mattis wasting their time, and his own, with such a mediocre plan as sending more troops to Afghanistan?

Come on Mattis, do the job you were chosen to do. More troops to Afghanistan? That’s thinking small. Keep this kind of crap up, and the Big Orange Head will fire you.

'We are not winning in Afghanistan': Mattis signals new war 'strategy' before Congress

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Trump has realized that China doesn't war, and won't allow war with North Korea. So, North Korea is out.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

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It's difficult for rational people to believe, but Big Orange’s administration just keeps raising the bar for conservative stupidity. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is to propose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

It's been obvious from the beginning that there is no end to the idiocy of Big Orange or his Cabinet. Like other conservatives, Mattis has forgotten the Soviet Union’s disastrous experience in Afghanistan, and has chosen to ignore the fact that during the many years U.S. troops have spent there, they have fared no better.

Mattis knows it is a Republican/conservative obligation to kill as many troops as possible in order to line the pockets of U.S. war profiteers with hundreds-of-billions of dollars.

But he has also forgotten the war Big Orange wants to fight with North Korea. So, is it wise to send troops to the Middle East, when so many, many more Americans can be killed in the Far East?

Admittedly, there is still much money to be made in killing, wounding, and maiming service personnel in Afghanistan. But, is it a sound business decision, when the potential profits on the Korean Peninsula would reach well into multi-trillions-of-dollars?

Knowing there are vast sums of money to be made, the congressional Republicans would have no qualms about declaring war on North Korea. Mattis knows this, and knows they serve the interests of the same fat cats as he and Big Orange. So why is Mattis wasting their time, and his own, with such a mediocre plan as sending more troops to Afghanistan?

Come on Mattis, do the job you were chosen to do. More troops to Afghanistan? That’s thinking small. Keep this kind of crap up, and the Big Orange Head will fire you.

'We are not winning in Afghanistan': Mattis signals new war 'strategy' before Congress

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Trump has realized that China doesn't war, and won't allow war with North Korea. So, North Korea is out.

If North Korea fires upon us or an ally, it won't matter what China allows. Bank on it.

 

[Dschrute3]

Everyone should check out the movie 'War Machine' on NetFlix. Trump isn't the only problem. The awful problems go back to Bush and Obama. We have no business still being in Afghanistan. Period, end of story.

 

[frigidweirdo]

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It's difficult for rational people to believe, but Big Orange’s administration just keeps raising the bar for conservative stupidity. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is to propose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

It's been obvious from the beginning that there is no end to the idiocy of Big Orange or his Cabinet. Like other conservatives, Mattis has forgotten the Soviet Union’s disastrous experience in Afghanistan, and has chosen to ignore the fact that during the many years U.S. troops have spent there, they have fared no better.

Mattis knows it is a Republican/conservative obligation to kill as many troops as possible in order to line the pockets of U.S. war profiteers with hundreds-of-billions of dollars.

But he has also forgotten the war Big Orange wants to fight with North Korea. So, is it wise to send troops to the Middle East, when so many, many more Americans can be killed in the Far East?

Admittedly, there is still much money to be made in killing, wounding, and maiming service personnel in Afghanistan. But, is it a sound business decision, when the potential profits on the Korean Peninsula would reach well into multi-trillions-of-dollars?

Knowing there are vast sums of money to be made, the congressional Republicans would have no qualms about declaring war on North Korea. Mattis knows this, and knows they serve the interests of the same fat cats as he and Big Orange. So why is Mattis wasting their time, and his own, with such a mediocre plan as sending more troops to Afghanistan?

Come on Mattis, do the job you were chosen to do. More troops to Afghanistan? That’s thinking small. Keep this kind of crap up, and the Big Orange Head will fire you.

'We are not winning in Afghanistan': Mattis signals new war 'strategy' before Congress

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View attachment 132875


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Trump has realized that China doesn't war, and won't allow war with North Korea. So, North Korea is out.

If North Korea fires upon us or an ally, it won't matter what China allows. Bank on it.

Of course. But North Korea isn't going to do that, because they know what would happen. Kim is basically acting like the annoying kid, trying to goad the bully into hitting him so he can get the bully into trouble with the teachers.

 

[my2¢]

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Everett Dirksen, I'm quite impressed.

As far as Afghanistan goes, I think I need to re-watch Tom Hanks in Charlie Wilson's War. I have memory that popular perception after 9/11 was that it (at least partially) resulted from us not remaining in Afghanistan after assisting them against the Soviets. Seems like we've been trying to make up for that "mistake" this time around. Think seeing the movie may refresh my memory.

I remember Dirksen's raspy voice and wild hair though. And that his son-in-law was Howard Baker.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Everyone should check out the movie 'War Machine' on NetFlix. Trump isn't the only problem. The awful problems go back to Bush and Obama. We have no business still being in Afghanistan. Period, end of story.

The problem goes back hundreds of years to the British Empire, and also due to male human nature to produce enough bullies and a desire to fuck over others to get to the top.

 

[Dschrute3]

Everyone should check out the movie 'War Machine' on NetFlix. Trump isn't the only problem. The awful problems go back to Bush and Obama. We have no business still being in Afghanistan. Period, end of story.

The problem goes back hundreds of years to the British Empire, and also due to male human nature to produce enough bullies and a desire to fuck over others to get to the top.

Can't argue with you there. I thought 'War Machine' was pretty good. Definitely worth checking out.

 

[Hossfly]

For the first time in 72 years a president is letting Generals and Admirals run the military. Not some damn draft dodger or a community disorganizer. Ever since Roosevelt, presidents who had no tactical or strategic experience whatsoever have been screwing things up and getting our troops killed. There's a new sheriff in town and ain't nobody getting fired. Korea and Iran had better watch their step or they will be history. Screw Russia and China both. Right in the ear.

 

[Dschrute3]

For the first time in 72 years a president is letting Generals and Admirals run the military. Not some damn draft dodger or a community disorganizer. Ever since Roosevelt, presidents who had no tactical or strategic experience whatsoever have been screwing things up and getting our troops killed. There's a new sheriff in town and ain't nobody getting fired. Korea and Iran had better watch their step or they will be history. Screw Russia and China both. Right in the ear.

Nah, we don't belong in Afghanistan. It's time to come home. You really should check out the 'War Machine' movie. It's on NetFlix.

 

[candycorn]

Better to send 5000 MOABs and be done with it, but that would offend the European governments.

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Everett Dirksen is a name. I don't think many people in the House knew Zell Miller...I doubt his family could pick him out of a police line up. Do you remember the speech?

 

[candycorn]

Better to send 5000 MOABs and be done with it, but that would offend the European governments.

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Laugh it up, fuzzball. All true. I met quite a pantheon of celebrities as a kid.

I met Marv Levy once when I was working at the Super Bowl in Houston a while back. I dare you to top that. LOL

 

[candycorn]

Better to send 5000 MOABs and be done with it, but that would offend the European governments.

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Everett Dirksen, I'm quite impressed.

As far as Afghanistan goes, I think I need to re-watch Tom Hanks in Charlie Wilson's War. I have memory that popular perception after 9/11 was that it (at least partially) resulted from us not remaining in Afghanistan after assisting them against the Soviets. Seems like we've been trying to make up for that "mistake" this time around. Think seeing the movie may refresh my memory.

I remember Dirksen's raspy voice and wild hair though. And that his son-in-law was Howard Baker.

Why are we over there at all? What else is there to win?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

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It's difficult for rational people to believe, but Big Orange’s administration just keeps raising the bar for conservative stupidity. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis is to propose sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan.

It's been obvious from the beginning that there is no end to the idiocy of Big Orange or his Cabinet. Like other conservatives, Mattis has forgotten the Soviet Union’s disastrous experience in Afghanistan, and has chosen to ignore the fact that during the many years U.S. troops have spent there, they have fared no better.

Mattis knows it is a Republican/conservative obligation to kill as many troops as possible in order to line the pockets of U.S. war profiteers with hundreds-of-billions of dollars.

But he has also forgotten the war Big Orange wants to fight with North Korea. So, is it wise to send troops to the Middle East, when so many, many more Americans can be killed in the Far East?

Admittedly, there is still much money to be made in killing, wounding, and maiming service personnel in Afghanistan. But, is it a sound business decision, when the potential profits on the Korean Peninsula would reach well into multi-trillions-of-dollars?

Knowing there are vast sums of money to be made, the congressional Republicans would have no qualms about declaring war on North Korea. Mattis knows this, and knows they serve the interests of the same fat cats as he and Big Orange. So why is Mattis wasting their time, and his own, with such a mediocre plan as sending more troops to Afghanistan?

Come on Mattis, do the job you were chosen to do. More troops to Afghanistan? That’s thinking small. Keep this kind of crap up, and the Big Orange Head will fire you.

'We are not winning in Afghanistan': Mattis signals new war 'strategy' before Congress

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View attachment 132875


.

Trump has realized that China doesn't war, and won't allow war with North Korea. So, North Korea is out.

If North Korea fires upon us or an ally, it won't matter what China allows. Bank on it.

Of course. But North Korea isn't going to do that, because they know what would happen. Kim is basically acting like the annoying kid, trying to goad the bully into hitting him so he can get the bully into trouble with the teachers.

There are no teachers over us.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Better to send 5000 MOABs and be done with it, but that would offend the European governments.

He reminds me of Zell Miller who my Grandfather knew personally and who I met one time in passing.

Ooh, name dropping, eh? I once met Everett Dirksen, and was 20 feet from Jack Kennedy at his inauguration. So there.

Laugh it up, fuzzball. All true. I met quite a pantheon of celebrities as a kid.

I met Marv Levy once when I was working at the Super Bowl in Houston a while back. I dare you to top that. LOL

Jim Morrison. Richie Furay. Joe Cocker. Joe Zawinul. Keith Emerson.