With Trump and Sanders Win, Are We Seeing a Full Scale Revolt in America?

[jillian]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

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Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

I thnk both parties in new Hampshire were misguided.

however, trump feeds on the base's hate. Bernie feeds on it's hope. that isn't divisive, it's just naïve.

 

[JimBowie1958]

neither of these people are "revolutionary".

Many people, including myself, think that they are for upending the current corporate crony system.

I dont think anyon e wants a street fighting, violent revolution like you and your social Marxist comrades want, dear.

and unlike the radical right that is still crying they can't discriminate against gays and blacks, I don't hate my government. I just want it to do better.

Other than fagot marriage, no one is crying over the advancement of civil liberties for fags and blacks.

 

[billyerock1991]

With Trump and Sanders Win, Are We Seeing a Full Scale Revolt in America?


Yes.

People are tired of being lied to about what govt is doing, tired of the govt controlling the economy more and more and making it worse, tired of govt taking over health care and making it worse, tired of the govt changing foreign relations and making them worse, tired of govt degrading our own armed forces, changing their missions and making them worse.

Trump, Sanders (and Cruz) are very believable when they'll say they will change all that. Whether they actually can change them for the better, remains to be seen.

But yes, we're seeing the beginnings of a revolt. Nothing like the one they had in 1776, but we're moving steadily closer.

Bernie Sanders is telling everyone he's going to break up the banks, giving everyone the false impression that the banks are the reason for all of the corruption in Washington.

Hogwash.

He's nothing more than a communist using populist jargon to win an election. His support comes mostly from kids that don't know anything and don't trust Hillary. They are easy pickings.

lets see ... it was the banks and phil gram who wrote the 1999 law for the banks to be able make it ok for loans that weren't 100% secure loans ... it was the banks that took advantage of that law ... it was the banks that sold over the counter derivatives ... now in 2003 again with phil gram who got this passed "the american dream downpayment" passed ... this law said you don't have to check out a bulk loans from a company like A.I.G. or any over the counter derivatives ... this got the banking system into trouble and if the bank who sent these bulk loans to aig through the law that was pass, they too didn't have to check out these bulk loans... by selling bulk loans to unsecspecting loans comanies like Fanny mae and freddy mac and other banks that these bulk loans were not secure loans, causing the banks to fail causing freddy mac and many mae to fail causing all kinds of banks and companies to fail ... now you're telling us breaking up big business is a communist thing??? really!!! I always thought you to be stupid but today you proved it ...

If you thought I was stupid before, I'm sure nothing I say will change a closed-minded person such as yourself.

Btw, i said Banks.....not businesses. That comes later. Attack the economy first by tearing down financial institutions. Classic Marxism, essentially the exploitation of the working class.

The goal of any communist is to destroy capitalism. If you want power, you have to convince the youth of any nation that capitalism is evil. Capitalism isn't evil. Lawyers are evil. They're paid to find ways around laws.

Nuff said.

as always you seem to mis where I wrote banks time and time again, I was pointing out why Bernie was against big banks ... as you stated he was trying to break them up as a bad thing ... I pointed out why he was trying to break them up .... I realize it was a bit over your head

 

[billyerock1991]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

I thnk both parties in new Hampshire were misguided.

however, trump feeds on the base's hate. Bernie feeds on it's hope. that isn't divisive, it's just naïve.

I agree

 

[JimBowie1958]

Btw, i said Banks.....not businesses. That comes later. Attack the economy first by tearing down financial institutions. Classic Marxism, essentially the exploitation of the working class.

1. Sanders is not a communist. He is a democratic socialist.

2. He wants to dismantle the 'too big to fail' Wall Street banks that got the $4 Trillion in Quantitative EAsing hand outs, so I guess we, the People, kind of own those damned banks and rip them up to shreds if we want to; we paid for them.

The goal of any communist is to destroy capitalism. If you want power, you have to convince the youth of any nation that capitalism is evil. Capitalism isn't evil. Lawyers are evil. They're paid to find ways around laws.

Nuff said.

Not sure why you are going on about communism. Not much of any one outside of academia wants communism that I have ever seen.

 

[paulitician]

"No more chippin away at the 2nd Amendment."

BAM! Go Trump!

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

I thnk both parties in new Hampshire were misguided.

however, trump feeds on the base's hate. Bernie feeds on it's hope. that isn't divisive, it's just naïve.

I agree

Then kindly point out where Trump said anything that was hate speech. You libtards keep going on and on about Trump tapping into the hate vote, but it is all nothing more than a bullshit smear job without specific quotes.

 

[billyerock1991]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

Absolutely! When shit like this is happening and they are the only two candidates who have a problem with it...

Ford to More Than Double Mexico Production Capacity in 2018

Ford to move production to Mexico: Report

Ford is moving to Mexico under a Democrat administration.

What is the primary reason one would want to move to Mexico?

Could it be because of less overhead, lower wages, lower taxes?

Hmmmmm. What a poser.

if the do this then bernie and hillary will start putting surcharges on for parts or cars coming into the country where republicans won't ... you don't think they won't go there it a republican takes office ??? then you're dumber then I thought ...

 

[easyt65]

and unlike the radical right that is still crying they can't discriminate against gays and blacks, I don't hate my government....

GOP Candidates:
2 Cubans
1 Black
1 Caucasian

DNC
2 old white millionaires

And the GOP are the racists? Democrats aren't running an African American because they have bet their quota for the 1st 200+ years as a nation.

Out of these 2 rich old white people for the DNC:
- 1 of them allowed 4 Americans to die needlessly then perpetuated a lie to cover it up to save her ass and has jeopardized our national security for 'expediency' in (incompetently) doing her job...
- The other is a SOCIALIST, the antithesis of what this country, our Constitution, and we are all about.

Barak Obama hated this country so much that he did not want to make it better, he declared he wanted to 'FUNDAMENTALLY change' it...and has done his best to do so.

...and it's the GOP that hates this country?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

All of this boils down to one thing, the Jew and Black man are the White man's enemy. Trump will stand up for the White man and prevent White genocide in order to bring this country back to greatness.

 

[billyerock1991]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

Absolutely! When shit like this is happening and they are the only two candidates who have a problem with it...

Ford to More Than Double Mexico Production Capacity in 2018

Ford to move production to Mexico: Report

Ford is moving to Mexico under a Democrat administration.

What is the primary reason one would want to move to Mexico?

Could it be because of less overhead, lower wages, lower taxes?

Hmmmmm. What a poser.

You want Americans to compete with Mexican and Chinese wages? Got it!

Isn't that what Bill Clinton's free trade was all about? It was predicted and it has happened.

actually the free trade agreement started at the end of reagan time in office went through george bush's time and was ready to be sign under george bush's second term in office ... one problem he had to win ... he didn't win ... and yes at the time it look like a good Idea so clinton sign it... whats your point???

 

[billyerock1991]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

I thnk both parties in new Hampshire were misguided.

however, trump feeds on the base's hate. Bernie feeds on it's hope. that isn't divisive, it's just naïve.

I agree

Then kindly point out where Trump said anything that was hate speech. You libtards keep going on and on about Trump tapping into the hate vote, but it is all nothing more than a bullshit smear job without specific quotes.

your kidding right ???

 

[imawhosure]

1) no what they pointed out that some emails could be consider as classified they were never marked as classified until after the fact...

2) the investigation was over then 22 emails that just came out ...

3) this is the biggest crock of bull shit I've seen to date ... you think she is that stupid to accept from money from terrorist ???

1. Liberals continue to spew the B$ about 'markings'.
- The Non-Disclosure Form that Hillary signed clearly stated that the actual markings - or lack thereof - on documents DO NOT MATTER, that LL INFORMATION WAS / IS TO BE TREATED AS CLASSIFIED. Hillary signed the document and just recently acknowledged this. That effectively KILLS / NULIFIES any B$ claim about the markings. Hillary did not treat those documents as classified, which they were!

- The FBI recently released that e-mails and information on her server, that she received and sent - contained classified information whose markings had been removed - 'cut and pasted' into e-mails. Hillary's own aides have already stated that doing so was not rare but was more of a STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE', as Hillary had asked her team to strip the marking s off documents in the past. The link to this was posted earlier. (Want it - find it). PRECEDENCE, a HISTORY of stripping the markings off documents has been established and corroborated by her own staff's claims.

BUSTED!

2. Investigation was over 22 e-mails.
BULLSHITE! The FBI has been investigating Hillary, her server, and her e-mails for months. These '22 emails' were just several of the more than 1,000 and were just found RECENTLY - as in some of the LATEST to be found. They did not start this investigation but are a more recent discovery in the on-going investigation.


3. I never said Hillary received donations from TERRORISTS. I pointed out the FACT that she received money from nations that FUND and SUPPORT terrorism, nations that engaged in the mutilation of female genitalia / honor killings / the oppression of women, and nations that murder homosexuals. The only one who insinuated Hillary took money directly from terrorists is YOU!

FAIL!

I quoted this post, but it is not pointed at the poster, but rather everyone who really cares about our country.

Maybe we would all be wise to go back and revisit Perot and see if he predicted correctly on what would happen in the overall grand scheme of things.

Was he correct? 1/2 correct? Or maybe not correct at all. He was a business person, and he told ALL of us boomers what the establishment was doing and what it would cause.

Now, to be as fair as possible, maybe you Gen X and millenium people, do not know why NAFTA was originally introduced. Let me enlighten you------------>

1. It was put out as a win-win for the United States, as we would have more customers from South of the border for our goods.............but--------->

that was not the original reason it was devised, oh no it wasn't!

2. The original reason it was devised, was to create a zone of economic influence to lift people South of our border (below Mexico included) out of poverty, supposedly turning them into capitalists like us. The thought process went something like this----------> if these people become more consumer and job driven, they will reject the reach of totalitarianism, Communist uprisings due to lack of goods, and shun the Castro regime. In the process, we will save money on defense spending, because these countries will shun "all of the above," as their prosperity grows. In other words, it was a trade off! Some of YOUR jobs, for less spending on defense, and cheaper goods that would make the loss of YOUR job more palatable to YOU! They would protect their OWN borders instead of us, because they wanted the American way of life.

Sooooooo, how did that work out for you?

Some lost their job. Now the remaining jobs in this country are under EXTREME compensation pressure as they come here instead, lowering YOUR ability to demand more money because the employment pool is saturated.

I know, kinda a hokey saying, but......."What a deal!"

So now you have someone else..........in fact a few someone else...........telling you this was all wrong; the plan didn't work, it FAILED! For what NAFTA, CAFTA, KOOKIE COWABUNGA, and the new trade bills design is for the EXACT same reasons, and here we are doing the same thing over, and over, and over again, expecting a different result.

Honestly, how dumb are we? Forget political partisanship and think about it to yourselves. Does anyone here think that NAFTA, CAFTA, the infamous KOOKIE COWABUNGA along with the TPP could actually work for the original, intended purpose, if we didn't find a way to send them jobs? THINK, THINK people. What good is any agreement if you can't achieve the final result for which it was intended?

And so, the only way to draw REAL conclusions about was is actually going on, is to be ACCURATE on what the designers intent was supposed to do for this, and the previous deals.

I just explained the designers original intent, and you can find the philosophy if you look with your computer. Might shock you, but it is, what it is.

So then, is Trump lying? No he isn't! Doesn't mean he is the best candidate to be POTUS, but he isn't lying. How much weight that carries with you is your choice. He and Perot hit the nail on the head, but your jobs can't be given away, if some can hide it from you.......now can they!

 

[JimBowie1958]

All of this boils down to one thing, the Jew and Black man are the White man's enemy. Trump will stand up for the White man and prevent White genocide in order to bring this country back to greatness.

No, I dont think this has a racial component to it. I have read Trumps book and listened to his speeches repeatedly and nowhere does he bring up race as a motivator.

You seem really obsessed with the topic.

 

[bendog]

Let's look at the primaries through and including Super Tuesday, March 1st:

Nevada
South Carolina
Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas
Colorado
Georgia
Massachusetts
Minnesota
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Vermont
Virginia
Wyoming

Does anyone seriously believe Sanders is going to win in states such as Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma, or Texas – as for Trump, he may win a few more states, but he'll have the same trouble with Christian fundamentalists and the social right as he did in Iowa, in addition to larger, more diverse blue states turned off by his arrogance and bigotry.

And again, this is just through March 1st, on March 15th the following primaries take place:

Florida
Illinois
Missouri
North Carolina
Ohio

These are large, diverse states, which is why by the end of March we'll see a completely different primary landscape, and understand why Iowa and NH are completely irrelevant.

Yea, once the blacks start voting for the very person, Hillary Clinton, who will continue to keep them in the ghetto. Biden's Keeping you in chains comes to mind, but he was accusing the wrong party

-Geaux

what have the republicans done for the blacks please enlighten us all ...

you mean besides allowing them to charge 1% interest on their own debt but use college students as a funding source for banks?

you mean like de-regulating the banks?

or do you mean de-funding those governmental agencies responsible for oversight of things like banks and securities, etc.?

you're welcome.

I honestly don't know why those aren't Hillaries' (-: talking points.

We'll see how Bernie does in his lunch with the Rev Al today and in SC a TWO weeks from Sat. Hill's a crummy candidate, but Bernie is not built for the South

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am kinda leaning this way too. Burn the fuckers down and dance on their ashes, lol.

LISTEN UP GOP ESTABLISHMENT! Reform or your day is through.
Trump and Sanders win: We are witnessing a full scale revolt, America | Fox News

To my mind, Tuesday night’s results show that there are finally politicians who understand how marginalized, disenfranchised and betrayed a majority of Americans feel. It’s both Republicans and Democrats, including the 42 percent of Americans who now identify as independent because they think the two parties don’t represent their values and positions.
We are seeing a full scale rejection of the political establishment. This is a threat that we did not take seriously enough over the past few years, as evidenced by the fact that most rejected Trump as a clown and a joke. His ideas on illegal immigration and placing a temporary ban on Muslims ruffled our national feathers even though a majority of Republican primary voters agreed with him. That’s how out of touch our political class has become.
Indeed, 46 percent of GOP voters say they feel betrayed by Republican politicians. Trump won 32 percent of that group.
We did the same thing to Bernie Sanders who began this race upwards of 50 points behind Hillary Clinton. We said a socialist could never win. And he may not be able to win a national election, but we are seeing an electorate so starved for an honest and trustworthy politician that they will make allowances for ideologies that they may not have considered before.
Sanders has argued about oligarchy and money in politics and has been his whole career. He doesn’t flip flop or evolve on his advocacy for the average American.
Sanders is just Bernie Sanders. And Donald Trump is just Donald Trump.
We are living in a time when trust in Americans institutions has collapsed. A recent Pew survey shows that less than 20 percent of Americans trust the government always or most of the time. And a CNN poll showed that 60 percent think the American Dream is unachievable today.....

I think you're seeing angry, ignorant people on the left wing, and angry, ignorant people on the right. That's what you saw in the New Hampshire vote.

The candidates that they support Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump don't have solutions to this countries problems, they just stoke the fire of anger.

On CNN--the least important issue on these voters minds tonight was electability. They didn't care if Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump could win the White House, they wanted to make a statement.

Will Democrats and Republicans wake up tomorrow and change course? Probably--because ultimately all the ranting and raving in the world isn't going to cut it, if you nominate a candidate that can't win the White House.

I thnk both parties in new Hampshire were misguided.

however, trump feeds on the base's hate. Bernie feeds on it's hope. that isn't divisive, it's just naïve.

I agree

Then kindly point out where Trump said anything that was hate speech. You libtards keep going on and on about Trump tapping into the hate vote, but it is all nothing more than a bullshit smear job without specific quotes.

your kidding right ???

No, I am not kidding. I do know that Trump opening campaign speech has been labeled as hate speech toward Hispanics when he never said any thing pf the kind. But I dont want to set up a Straw Man here; either put up some links to Trumps supposedly racist speech or shut the hell up about it.

You libtards repeat bullshit lies among each other so much you simply assume the lies are true because everyone you know regards it as true based on ZERO evidence, so, come on; put up or shut up.

 

[JimBowie1958]

1) no what they pointed out that some emails could be consider as classified they were never marked as classified until after the fact...

2) the investigation was over then 22 emails that just came out ...

3) this is the biggest crock of bull shit I've seen to date ... you think she is that stupid to accept from money from terrorist ???

1. Liberals continue to spew the B$ about 'markings'.
- The Non-Disclosure Form that Hillary signed clearly stated that the actual markings - or lack thereof - on documents DO NOT MATTER, that LL INFORMATION WAS / IS TO BE TREATED AS CLASSIFIED. Hillary signed the document and just recently acknowledged this. That effectively KILLS / NULIFIES any B$ claim about the markings. Hillary did not treat those documents as classified, which they were!

- The FBI recently released that e-mails and information on her server, that she received and sent - contained classified information whose markings had been removed - 'cut and pasted' into e-mails. Hillary's own aides have already stated that doing so was not rare but was more of a STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE', as Hillary had asked her team to strip the marking s off documents in the past. The link to this was posted earlier. (Want it - find it). PRECEDENCE, a HISTORY of stripping the markings off documents has been established and corroborated by her own staff's claims.

BUSTED!

2. Investigation was over 22 e-mails.
BULLSHITE! The FBI has been investigating Hillary, her server, and her e-mails for months. These '22 emails' were just several of the more than 1,000 and were just found RECENTLY - as in some of the LATEST to be found. They did not start this investigation but are a more recent discovery in the on-going investigation.


3. I never said Hillary received donations from TERRORISTS. I pointed out the FACT that she received money from nations that FUND and SUPPORT terrorism, nations that engaged in the mutilation of female genitalia / honor killings / the oppression of women, and nations that murder homosexuals. The only one who insinuated Hillary took money directly from terrorists is YOU!

FAIL!

I quoted this post, but it is not pointed at the poster, but rather everyone who really cares about our country.

Maybe we would all be wise to go back and revisit Perot and see if he predicted correctly on what would happen in the overall grand scheme of things.

Was he correct? 1/2 correct? Or maybe not correct at all. He was a business person, and he told ALL of us boomers what the establishment was doing and what it would cause.

Now, to be as fair as possible, maybe you Gen X and millenium people, do not know why NAFTA was originally introduced. Let me enlighten you------------>

1. It was put out as a win-win for the United States, as we would have more customers from South of the border for our goods.............but--------->

that was not the original reason it was devised, oh no it wasn't!

2. The original reason it was devised, was to create a zone of economic influence to lift people South of our border (below Mexico included) out of poverty, supposedly turning them into capitalists like us. The thought process went something like this----------> if these people become more consumer and job driven, they will reject the reach of totalitarianism, Communist uprisings due to lack of goods, and shun the Castro regime. In the process, we will save money on defense spending, because these countries will shun "all of the above," as their prosperity grows. In other words, it was a trade off! Some of YOUR jobs, for less spending on defense, and cheaper goods that would make the loss of YOUR job more palatable to YOU! They would protect their OWN borders instead of us, because they wanted the American way of life.

Sooooooo, how did that work out for you?

Some lost their job. Now the remaining jobs in this country are under EXTREME compensation pressure as they come here instead, lowering YOUR ability to demand more money because the employment pool is saturated.

I know, kinda a hokey saying, but......."What a deal!"

So now you have someone else..........in fact a few someone else...........telling you this was all wrong; the plan didn't work, it FAILED! For what NAFTA, CAFTA, KOOKIE COWABUNGA, and the new trade bills design is for the EXACT same reasons, and here we are doing the same thing over, and over, and over again, expecting a different result.

Honestly, how dumb are we? Forget political partisanship and think about it to yourselves. Does anyone here think that NAFTA, CAFTA, the infamous KOOKIE COWABUNGA along with the TPP could actually work for the original, intended purpose, if we didn't find a way to send them jobs? THINK, THINK people. What good is any agreement if you can't achieve the final result for which it was intended?

And so, the only way to draw REAL conclusions about was is actually going on, is to be ACCURATE on what the designers intent was supposed to do for this, and the previous deals.

I just explained the designers original intent, and you can find the philosophy if you look with your computer. Might shock you, but it is, what it is.

So then, is Trump lying? No he isn't! Doesn't mean he is the best candidate to be POTUS, but he isn't lying. How much weight that carries with you is your choice. He and Perot hit the nail on the head, but your jobs can't be given away, if some can hide it from you.......now can they!

You are exactly right. The corporate owned media is attacking Trump because he threatens free trade, and the leftwing academians are attacking him because they fear he will steal their immigration flood majority in the future.

 

[paulitician]

Trump's the only Candidate from either Party who's gonna at least attempt to end Illegal Immigration. For that alone, he's the man. Go get em Trump!

 

[JimBowie1958]

actually the free trade agreement started at the end of reagan time in office went through george bush's time and was ready to be sign under george bush's second term in office ... one problem he had to win ... he didn't win ... and yes at the time it look like a good Idea so clinton sign it... whats your point???

Bullshit, Clinton owns NAFTA. He signed it and could have renegotiated, so you can stop blaming Bush.

But Bush does bear some responsibility as he also exploded H1-B and other guest worker visas that are supposed to be for bringing in the most rare specialists that we can find among our own, and now even Disney, which owns ABC, has been abusing these permits to replace American workers after these workers train their replacements.....all supposedly prevented by law.

 

[JakeStarkey]