Woman arrested for praying silently in public.

[Stann]

British free speech isn’t free.

And you are guilty until you prove your innocence.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The British are smarter than we are. When the anti-abortion crowd started causing trouble there, the British proactively created " censorship ," zones around abortion clinics to prevent conflicts. This woman was in violation of that law.

/---/ And that is why we have a 1st amendment and the belief in the separation of church and state. This prevents the Thought Police from arresting random citizens for their thoughts.

 

[jknowgood]

A fundie nutjob harassing innocent women

How snowflakie of you. She was sitting there praying you idiot.

 

[hjmick]

It’s come down to this. The thought police are coming after Christians.

Pro-life activist arrested for praying silently near an abortion facility

A British woman was arrested by police for praying outside an abortion facility in a buffer zone, which criminalizes any prayer or counseling as it relates to abortion.

www.foxnews.com

It happened in the U.K.? Don't give a shit.

Give me a call when it happens here in the U.S..

 

[BackAgain]

And you are guilty until you prove your innocence.

To rephrase it, you’re saying that they don’t have a legal presumption of innocence and that they have a burden of proof to carry?

I’m not sure that’s true in British law. In fact, their rules may differ from ours in various respects, but the Crown does bear the burden of proof of a charged criminal defendant’s guilt, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The Burden of Proof in English Law​

If you are studying through the Institute of Legal Secretaries and PAs, you will learn that the burden of proof in Criminal Law cases is set considerably higher than in other areas of law. In fact, there is a requirement for the Crown to prove a case against the defendant beyond all reasonable doubt.

The Burden of Proof in English Law | DEDICATED

www.legalsecretaryjournal.com

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I hate to sound like a dick, but if she was in a buffer zone and knew it, she broke the rules.

How did they know she was praying and not silently reviewing her shopping list?

 

[hjmick]

How did they know she was praying and not silently reviewing her shopping list?

Because she told them.

From the link: A charity volunteer was arrested after she told police she "might" be praying silently when they asked why she was standing on a public street near an abortion facility, according to a report from Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) UK.

 

[Confederate Soldier]

How did they know she was praying and not silently reviewing her shopping list?

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that women don't kneel in front of abortion clinics with their eyes closed, to review shopping lists.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Because she told them.

From the link: A charity volunteer was arrested after she told police she "might" be praying silently when they asked why she was standing on a public street near an abortion facility, according to a report from Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) UK.

She might be praying, silently. Or she might not.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that women don't kneel in front of abortion clinics with their eyes closed, to review shopping lists.

Is the law against kneeling or praying or just thinking?

 

[Esdraelon]

A fundie nutjob harassing innocent women

Ghoul with blood on your hands...

 

[Cellblock2429]

How snowflakie of you. She was sitting there praying you idiot.

/——-/ Nazi shot people for praying. You’re in good company.

 

[toobfreak]

Got any examples of British problems becoming American ones?

Yes, look around you. All the democrats are about these days is making us just like the Europeans again whom we broke away from to form America.

Maybe better to ask what if anything do democrats want or do these days which is divesting away from Europe rather than moving closer to it?

 

[Cellblock2429]

England isn't like America, where we have freedom of speech and religion, guaranteed by the Constitution. I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's their problem, not ours.

/——-/ Think again. It happens here.

6th Circuit Sides With Anti-Abortion Group in Halting County’s ‘Buffer Zone’ Law | National Law Journal

In reversing the district court decision, the judges pointed to a 2014 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that struck down a Massachusetts law creating a 35-foot “buffer zone” outside abortion clinics as violating the First Amendment.

www.law.com

 

[Cellblock2429]

Got any examples of British problems becoming American ones?

/——-/. Yeah. Thanks for asking. 6th Circuit Sides With Anti-Abortion Group in Halting County’s ‘Buffer Zone’ Law | National Law Journal

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yes, look around you. All the democrats are about these days is making us just like the Europeans again whom we broke away from to form America.

Maybe better to ask what if anything do democrats want or do these days which is divesting away from Europe rather than moving closer to it?

So...........no examples, just rhetoric that your side spews on a regular basis.

 

[ABikerSailor]

/——-/. Yeah. Thanks for asking. 6th Circuit Sides With Anti-Abortion Group in Halting County’s ‘Buffer Zone’ Law | National Law Journal

That's behind a paywall, can't read because I'm not paying for an article (or giving my e-mail to them) for just one article. And, while they may have sided with them, did it change our laws or how things are done in America? I'm guessing not, but I couldn't read the article as stated before.

 

[BS Filter]

The left is only a few years away from firing up the ovens.

 

[Augustine_]

Ghoul with blood on your hands...

Yes she is

 

[toobfreak]

So...........no examples

I just gave you a hundred---- pick any direction and throw a dart and you'll hit one. Can't make it any simpler than that, so if you still have no idea, I guess there's just no fix for stupidity.