Would you like for your government to regulate prices, profits and wages?

[JBond]

Welfare serves the rich, as it keeps the poor from taking real redistribution into their own hands.

How exactly would they take it into their own hands, and what is your definition of rich?

 

[there4eyeM]

The only definition of 'rich' that would matter is that held by the 'poor'.

 

[JBond]

The only definition of 'rich' that would matter is that held by the 'poor'.

Gibberish...

Every dollar given to someone that didn't earn it, came from someone that did. Again, how much do you think should be taken from productive people to be redistributed to non-productive people? Is a trillion a year enough and how do you define rich. How would the non-productive people just take it?

 

[my2¢]

No...I'm not a democrat...

Nor are you Richard Nixon. He not only imposed wage and price controls, but also reduced the speed limits on our highways down to 55 which was really a bummer.

 

[ding]

Welfare serves the rich, as it keeps the poor from taking real redistribution into their own hands.

How exactly would they do that? Through force?

 

[ding]

Hell, I’d settle for a free market capitalist economic system, but we don’t have one of those and never really have had one; by design. We’ve have always had a blended economy to protect the interests of elites from the ravages of the market and to shift that burden onto the working class.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

We should form a mob! Occupy, occupy, occupy... oh wait, that's already been done.

The mob was formed by your financial elites, quite successfully as it turns out.

Really?

Where has societal wealth been redistributed over the past half century shoog. Run find me some more pictures.

Apparently not to you.

Occupy! Occupy! Occupy!

Give me a break. At any point in our lives we are the sum of our choices. If you want to transfer your control to an external source be my guest. I am in control of my destiny.

 

[ding]

How is it possible for a society based on capitalism to regulate "prices, profits and wages"? Are Bernie Sanders people hosting a poll?

That's my point, it's not. A government that did that by definition would be communistic.

But an econonic system that does is apparently "liberty".

No, an economic system that does it is a free market.

You've never had one.

I beg to disagree. But putting that aside, it isn't what we have now that is the problem, it is what you want it to become that is the problem.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The left love things like the healthcare in Cuba. Not because they provide exceptional treatment, it is because no one can get an aspirin equally.

 

[Timmy]

All th winner countries have socailist aspects to them .

What exactly do you admire about socialism, Timmy?

I think national education is a good thing . As well as health coverage . National parks . Highways . The internet . Airports . Energy producing dams . Fire and police departments , FEMA , I can go on and on.

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

 

[ding]

What exactly do you admire about socialism, Timmy?

I think national education is a good thing . As well as health coverage . National parks . Highways . The internet . Airports . Energy producing dams . Fire and police departments , FEMA , I can go on and on.

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

Maybe. We'll see. Obviously you have never heard of MAP. Collusion is alive and well. But when capitalism fails people lose money. When socialism fails, people die.

 

[JBond]

What exactly do you admire about socialism, Timmy?

I think national education is a good thing . As well as health coverage . National parks . Highways . The internet . Airports . Energy producing dams . Fire and police departments , FEMA , I can go on and on.

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

Is it time to break up the media cartel? Five companies own nearly everything.

 

[there4eyeM]

The only definition of 'rich' that would matter is that held by the 'poor'.

Gibberish...

Every dollar given to someone that didn't earn it, came from someone that did. Again, how much do you think should be taken from productive people to be redistributed to non-productive people? Is a trillion a year enough and how do you define rich. How would the non-productive people just take it?

Here is an example of 'gibberish', if by that word one means an assembly of words so charged with misunderstood innuendo as to be rendered incomprehensible.

 

[there4eyeM]

I think national education is a good thing . As well as health coverage . National parks . Highways . The internet . Airports . Energy producing dams . Fire and police departments , FEMA , I can go on and on.

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

Is it time to break up the media cartel? Five companies own nearly everything.

Some might call that 'socialist'.

 

[Timmy]

I think national education is a good thing . As well as health coverage . National parks . Highways . The internet . Airports . Energy producing dams . Fire and police departments , FEMA , I can go on and on.

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

Is it time to break up the media cartel? Five companies own nearly everything.

In the age of the Internet there are all kinds of media outlets ! 5 ain't too bad. Still lots of competition .

 

[ding]

So basically you believe the role of the government which is to do for the people what they can't do for themselves is socialism?

Excluding health insurance which is not heathcare of course.

No . I think gov should work for the benefit of the people . Not for just the benefit of big biz .

I think gov should reign in capitalism, so it doesn't destroy itself . I think gov and biz should work together to improve the lives of Americans.

How exactly does government reign in capitalism?

Capitalism will destroy itself if unchecked . Take anti-trust laws. They preserve competition, which is the heart of capitalism.

Is it time to break up the media cartel? Five companies own nearly everything.

Some might call that 'socialist'.

How so?

 

[ding]

The only definition of 'rich' that would matter is that held by the 'poor'.

Gibberish...

Every dollar given to someone that didn't earn it, came from someone that did. Again, how much do you think should be taken from productive people to be redistributed to non-productive people? Is a trillion a year enough and how do you define rich. How would the non-productive people just take it?

Here is an example of 'gibberish', if by that word one means an assembly of words so charged with misunderstood innuendo as to be rendered incomprehensible.

Yes. That is a good definition of gibberish, but it can also mean "nonsense" as in that does not make logical sense which is what I believe he was saying.

 

[danielpalos]

How is it possible for a society based on capitalism to regulate "prices, profits and wages"? Are Bernie Sanders people hosting a poll?

That's my point, it's not. A government that did that by definition would be communistic.

But an econonic system that does is apparently "liberty".

No, an economic system that does it is a free market.

No, it doesn't. Mogadishu had no taxes for over a decade; and virtually no regulations, either.

We can't have that, clearly a military adventure is in order.

equal protection of the law is a social concept, not a capital concept; should we, "pass the memo" to the rest of the, "left wing"?

 

[danielpalos]

,

Yet, the right wing alleges some subscription to capitalism, but have only social plans on a national basis regarding immigration.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

Yet, the right wing, "blames the poor for their, poor lifestyle choices".

The entire system traps us all; I have problems with "both" "the left" and "the right", and I really don't even buy into that paradigm. What we're facing is utterly bipartisan.

what excuse does the left have, for lousy social management?

Same as "the right", the corporate state has no need for any "will of the people". Your vote is feckless, Goldman Sachs always runs the white house regardless.

lousy capital management is just as bad, but the "parachutes are golden."

 

[danielpalos]

Hell, I’d settle for a free market capitalist economic system, but we don’t have one of those and never really have had one; by design. We’ve have always had a blended economy to protect the interests of elites from the ravages of the market and to shift that burden onto the working class.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

We should form a mob! Occupy, occupy, occupy... oh wait, that's already been done.

The mob was formed by your financial elites, quite successfully as it turns out.

Really?

Where has societal wealth been redistributed over the past half century shoog. Run find me some more pictures.

A trillion a year in welfare is not an insignificant amount. How much more should we redistribute? That does not count Medicare or social security.

US Welfare Spending for 2017 - Charts

why not actually solve the problem, instead of creating more problems, with more PoliceStateUSA.

We would not need an alleged War on Poverty, with equal protection of the law regarding the concept of employment at will.

 

[danielpalos]

Welfare serves the rich, as it keeps the poor from taking real redistribution into their own hands.

How exactly would they take it into their own hands, and what is your definition of rich?

with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment State; solves simple poverty and is less expensive than any form of means tested welfare.