Would you support a presidential candidate who held that biblical law superceded the Constitution?

And you know that....how? There are several versions of the bible....fact. There are several translations of the bible....fact. There are several contradictions in the bible...fact.

Your god did kind of a sucky job inspiring Men, didn't "he"?


Not really.
That is the excuses used by non believers.
Especially if you check all of the evidance out.
There are way more copies of the biblical manuscripts, with remarkable consistency between them, than there are for any of the classics like Plato, Aristotle and Socrates.
Again and again archaeological discoveries have verified the accuracy of the historical and cultural references in the Bible. The more they dig, the more it confirms the Bible.
No...there are lots of variations of both the New and Old testaments...and lots of gospels and books cut out. I believe it's you that is providing excuses....

Bible Versions and Translations Online

and



And why so many different Christian sects?



All of those Bible versions are very close and pretty much say and mean the same thing.
America helped to created the different Christian denomanations.
You attend where you feel the most comfortable and you think is the best that fits your ideology.
Not everyone thing in this world should be just one way of thinking to doing things.
Diversity is what America is all about.

The teachings of the gnostics’ flatly contradicts the Jesus of the Bible.
That is why those books were not accepted.


And who says those books aren't accepted? Other men.....it all goes back to a very very long game of Telephone.


The Gnostics were not even accepted when they were alive.
They did not believe in the resurrection of Jesus.



Were not accepted by whom? Who is it who have god's sheriff badge and gets to make the call as to whose ideas get accepted and put in the "book" and whose ideas get dumped?
 
Hey dummy since christians made the constitution I would say it is a moot question.....

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The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Well?
 
The Commandment says you can't have any other gods other than the God of the Bible.
Actually, it says "no other gods before Me".....makes it sound like there ARE other gods, just the Jewish God better be #1 in their worship.


False Gods made of clay and stone or brass.
Who is to say these gods are false. Many people did and continue to believe in other gods....Brahma for example. Who is it for you to say he doesn't exist?

To each his or her own.
If you think that a God made of clay or stone answers your prayers it isn't so, never has happened nor will it ever happen.
The one and only true God always answers our prayers. We may not like some of the answers but they are always answered in one way or another.
The Pharaoh of Egypt had to learn it the hard way as well as the Assyrians and Babylonians.
 
The Commandment says you can't have any other gods other than the God of the Bible.
Actually, it says "no other gods before Me".....makes it sound like there ARE other gods, just the Jewish God better be #1 in their worship.


False Gods made of clay and stone or brass.
Who is to say these gods are false. Many people did and continue to believe in other gods....Brahma for example. Who is it for you to say he doesn't exist?

To each his or her own.
If you think that a God made of clay or stone answers your prayers it isn't so, never has happened nor will it ever happen.
The one and only true God always answers our prayers. We may not like some of the answers but they are always answered in one way or another.
The Pharaoh of Egypt had to learn it the hard way as well as the Assyrians and Babylonians.
Now, that's convenient.
 
Not really.
That is the excuses used by non believers.
Especially if you check all of the evidance out.
There are way more copies of the biblical manuscripts, with remarkable consistency between them, than there are for any of the classics like Plato, Aristotle and Socrates.
Again and again archaeological discoveries have verified the accuracy of the historical and cultural references in the Bible. The more they dig, the more it confirms the Bible.
No...there are lots of variations of both the New and Old testaments...and lots of gospels and books cut out. I believe it's you that is providing excuses....

Bible Versions and Translations Online

and



And why so many different Christian sects?



All of those Bible versions are very close and pretty much say and mean the same thing.
America helped to created the different Christian denomanations.
You attend where you feel the most comfortable and you think is the best that fits your ideology.
Not everyone thing in this world should be just one way of thinking to doing things.
Diversity is what America is all about.

The teachings of the Gnostic's’ flatly contradicts the Jesus of the Bible.
That is why those books were not accepted.


And who says those books aren't accepted? Other men.....it all goes back to a very very long game of Telephone.


The Gnostic's were not even accepted when they were alive.
They did not believe in the resurrection of Jesus.



Were not accepted by whom? Who is it who have god's sheriff badge and gets to make the call as to whose ideas get accepted and put in the "book" and whose ideas get dumped?


The Apostles of Christ that's who.
Why are the Gnostic Gospels Rejected? | Titus Institute
Jesus gave his apostles, the twelve and Paul, the authority as his witnesses to proclaim his true identity and mission to the world.
Jesus made them eyewitnesses of his resurrection.
 
The Commandment says you can't have any other gods other than the God of the Bible.
Actually, it says "no other gods before Me".....makes it sound like there ARE other gods, just the Jewish God better be #1 in their worship.


False Gods made of clay and stone or brass.
Who is to say these gods are false. Many people did and continue to believe in other gods....Brahma for example. Who is it for you to say he doesn't exist?

To each his or her own.
If you think that a God made of clay or stone answers your prayers it isn't so, never has happened nor will it ever happen.
The one and only true God always answers our prayers. We may not like some of the answers but they are always answered in one way or another.
The Pharaoh of Egypt had to learn it the hard way as well as the Assyrians and Babylonians.
Now, that's convenient.


Not when you don't like the answer he gives you.
 
No...there are lots of variations of both the New and Old testaments...and lots of gospels and books cut out. I believe it's you that is providing excuses....

Bible Versions and Translations Online

and



And why so many different Christian sects?



All of those Bible versions are very close and pretty much say and mean the same thing.
America helped to created the different Christian denomanations.
You attend where you feel the most comfortable and you think is the best that fits your ideology.
Not everyone thing in this world should be just one way of thinking to doing things.
Diversity is what America is all about.

The teachings of the Gnostic's’ flatly contradicts the Jesus of the Bible.
That is why those books were not accepted.


And who says those books aren't accepted? Other men.....it all goes back to a very very long game of Telephone.


The Gnostic's were not even accepted when they were alive.
They did not believe in the resurrection of Jesus.



Were not accepted by whom? Who is it who have god's sheriff badge and gets to make the call as to whose ideas get accepted and put in the "book" and whose ideas get dumped?


The Apostles of Christ that's who.
Why are the Gnostic Gospels Rejected? | Titus Institute
Jesus gave his apostles, the twelve and Paul, the authority as his witnesses to proclaim his true identity and mission to the world.
Jesus made them eyewitnesses of his resurrection.

Then why didn't any of them actually write any of the books in the bible.
All the writings in the bible occurred hundreds of years later.
 
He inspired the Men who wrote it.
Be insulting and flippant as you want to but history is there for the facts.
Moses who is credited with writing the Torah (Five books of Moses; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy) was educated in the house of Pharaoh, he would have been literate not only in Egyptian but the surrounding cultures in his day. In the book of Job, dated to the Patriarchal period (2100-1800 B.C.) before the time of Moses, Job refers to writing and the material on which one writes. Writing with an Iron pen upon stone and lead is clearly described; lead a soft material could be inscribed with an Iron stylus. Soft Clay was also a material used to write upon, preserving the words of the writer.
Dismiss it all you want to but the facts are there like it or not.
And you know that....how? There are several versions of the bible....fact. There are several translations of the bible....fact. There are several contradictions in the bible...fact.

Your god did kind of a sucky job inspiring Men, didn't "he"?


Not really.
That is the excuses used by non believers.
Especially if you check all of the evidence out.
There are way more copies of the biblical manuscripts, with remarkable consistency between them, than there are for any of the classics like Plato, Aristotle and Socrates.
Again and again archaeological discoveries have verified the accuracy of the historical and cultural references in the Bible. The more they dig, the more it confirms the Bible.
I am a Christian, and I will be the first to admit that since we Christians don't live up to our scriptures and that we have a secular Constitution, that the latter requires a level playing field. Want to blame somebody, blame us Christians.
What has that got to do with whether God or Man wrote the Bible, which was the brief deflection from the original conversation?
Your deflection is deflected on a bank shot into the trash can.

The issue is not Who or who wrote the Bible, but that the Bible does not trump the Constitution when it comes to our law. If we were a righteous people of Christians in this country, the matter may be far different than what it is now.

The Bible cannot, will not and never will trump our Constitution. Religious Law (a.k.a. Sharia Law) is under our Constitutional Form of Government BANNED.
The U.S. was never founded as a "Christian Nation".

The "Founding Fathers" made sure there was no State Religion that we, as Citizens would have to bow down to.

Any Religious Belief, Christian, Jewish or Muslim is not under the Constitution of our Country a private, personal belief that cannot be held up as the singular belief of this nation. It does not matter how much any person wants, there is no Religion that can claim dominion over the U.S.

Nor can any person or person claim that based on their Private, Personal Belief that they have a Right to decide for others who they can and/or cannot Marry, where they can and/or cannot live, where they can and/or cannot worship or who they can and/or cannot vote for.

No State Religion means exactly that. You can worship when, where and/or how you want. But your Religion does not make you somehow more moral or more special.

You Religion just means that your dumb enough to believe in something that is not real and serves no other purpose than separate you from your money.
 
All of those Bible versions are very close and pretty much say and mean the same thing.
America helped to created the different Christian denomanations.
You attend where you feel the most comfortable and you think is the best that fits your ideology.
Not everyone thing in this world should be just one way of thinking to doing things.
Diversity is what America is all about.

The teachings of the Gnostic's’ flatly contradicts the Jesus of the Bible.
That is why those books were not accepted.

And who says those books aren't accepted? Other men.....it all goes back to a very very long game of Telephone.

The Gnostic's were not even accepted when they were alive.
They did not believe in the resurrection of Jesus.


Were not accepted by whom? Who is it who have god's sheriff badge and gets to make the call as to whose ideas get accepted and put in the "book" and whose ideas get dumped?

The Apostles of Christ that's who.
Why are the Gnostic Gospels Rejected? | Titus Institute
Jesus gave his apostles, the twelve and Paul, the authority as his witnesses to proclaim his true identity and mission to the world.
Jesus made them eyewitnesses of his resurrection.
Then why didn't any of them actually write any of the books in the bible.
All the writings in the bible occurred hundreds of years later.

They did.
The original copies did not survive just like other documents of the ancients of philosophers like Aristotle or Socrates, none of their original works have survived either but copies have been kept.
 
No and neither would Ben Carson as he stated.

Except that Carson also believes a Muslim, based upon their religion should not elected President.
"But, Nomani said, Carson has a point. "The sad truth," she wrote, "is that too many Muslims want to mix mosque and state." That assessment would seem to back up a recent poll conducted by the Center for Security Policy (CSP) that said a majority of Muslims in the United States want Islamic Sharia law over the Constitution. That same poll indicated that nearly a quarter support violence against infidels."


Mark Levin quotes secular Muslim: Ben Carson is right about Muslim president
 
And who says those books aren't accepted? Other men.....it all goes back to a very very long game of Telephone.

The Gnostic's were not even accepted when they were alive.
They did not believe in the resurrection of Jesus.


Were not accepted by whom? Who is it who have god's sheriff badge and gets to make the call as to whose ideas get accepted and put in the "book" and whose ideas get dumped?

The Apostles of Christ that's who.
Why are the Gnostic Gospels Rejected? | Titus Institute
Jesus gave his apostles, the twelve and Paul, the authority as his witnesses to proclaim his true identity and mission to the world.
Jesus made them eyewitnesses of his resurrection.
Then why didn't any of them actually write any of the books in the bible.
All the writings in the bible occurred hundreds of years later.

They did.
The original copies did not survive just like other documents of the ancients of philosophers like Aristotle or Socrates, none of their original works have survived either but copies have been kept.
Um...even Biblical scholars admit that the Gospels were NOT written by anyone who was around when Jesus was. The earliest date given by scholars is 70 AD....well after Jesus would have lived and died.
 
Hey dummy since christians made the constitution I would say it is a moot question.....

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The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?
 
Non-believers have an easy choice...

However...

Within the domain of Believers, which dominates?

1. God's laws

...or...

2. Man's laws?

The question for you is then.....is the Constitution man's law or GOd's law?

There is no "God's Law". Because there is no God.
Well, that's one opinion.

Thank you for your feedback.

No FACT.

You are entitled to your own opinion.

You are NOT entitled to you own facts.

The U.S. does not any form, in any manner State Sponsored Religion.

There is no State Mandated Religion in the U.S.

There is no State Required Religion in the U.S.

No person or person can be required to attend any Religious at anytime.

No person or person can be denied an education employment or housing based on upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

Nor can a person be blackmailed, forced or coerced to attend any Religious Service at anytime.

No person can be denied Medical Care based upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

No person can be required to undergo Medical Care based upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

There is can be no religious test for public in the U.S.

There no respecting an establishment of Religion, nor can a person be denied their Right to worship their faith as they so choose, regardless of Religion. That means Muslims, Jews, Wicca, Hindi and Buddhist have the same Religious Freedom as you do. You cannot deny that Right to anyone else either.

The Government of United States is based upon the rule of law. NOT the rule of a fictional, non-existent god.
 
Hey dummy since christians made the constitution I would say it is a moot question.....

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The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?


Christianity vs. The Constitution - Christian Principles in the Constitution?
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer. 17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
James Madison
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, [judicial]
the LORD is our lawgiver, [legislative]
the LORD is our king; [executive]
He will save us.”
Baron Charles Montesquieu wrote "The Spirit of the Laws", a book that was read and studied intently by our Founders. Montesquieu wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government.
 
Hey dummy since christians made the constitution I would say it is a moot question.....

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The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?


Christianity vs. The Constitution - Christian Principles in the Constitution?
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer. 17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
James Madison
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, [judicial]
the LORD is our lawgiver, [legislative]
the LORD is our king; [executive]
He will save us.”
Baron Charles Montesquieu wrote "The Spirit of the Laws", a book that was read and studied intently by our Founders. Montesquieu wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government.

And the fact that the British government followed the *exact* same separation (down to a bicameral legislature) was just a coincidental quirk of history?
 
Non-believers have an easy choice...

However...

Within the domain of Believers, which dominates?

1. God's laws

...or...

2. Man's laws?

The question for you is then.....is the Constitution man's law or GOd's law?

There is no "God's Law". Because there is no God.
Well, that's one opinion.

Thank you for your feedback.

No FACT.

You are entitled to your own opinion.

You are NOT entitled to you own facts.

The U.S. does not any form, in any manner State Sponsored Religion.

There is no State Mandated Religion in the U.S.

There is no State Required Religion in the U.S.

No person or person can be required to attend any Religious at anytime.

No person or person can be denied an education employment or housing based on upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

Nor can a person be blackmailed, forced or coerced to attend any Religious Service at anytime.

No person can be denied Medical Care based upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

No person can be required to undergo Medical Care based upon their Religion or the lack thereunto pertaining.

There is can be no religious test for public in the U.S.

There no respecting an establishment of Religion, nor can a person be denied their Right to worship their faith as they so choose, regardless of Religion. That means Muslims, Jews, Wicca, Hindi and Buddhist have the same Religious Freedom as you do. You cannot deny that Right to anyone else either.

The Government of United States is based upon the rule of law. NOT the rule of a fictional, non-existent god.
Calm yourself, Shirley...
 
The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?


Christianity vs. The Constitution - Christian Principles in the Constitution?
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer. 17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
James Madison
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, [judicial]
the LORD is our lawgiver, [legislative]
the LORD is our king; [executive]
He will save us.”
Baron Charles Montesquieu wrote "The Spirit of the Laws", a book that was read and studied intently by our Founders. Montesquieu wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government.

And the fact that the British government followed the *exact* same separation (down to a bicameral legislature) was just a coincidental quirk of history?

Not the exact same separation.
Separation of powers in the uk | Law Teacher
There Is No Absolute Doctrine Of Separation Of Powers In The UK Constitution. Overlaps Exist Both In Terms Of The Functions Of The Organs Of State And The Personnel Operating Within Them.
 
Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?


Christianity vs. The Constitution - Christian Principles in the Constitution?
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer. 17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
James Madison
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, [judicial]
the LORD is our lawgiver, [legislative]
the LORD is our king; [executive]
He will save us.”
Baron Charles Montesquieu wrote "The Spirit of the Laws", a book that was read and studied intently by our Founders. Montesquieu wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government.

And the fact that the British government followed the *exact* same separation (down to a bicameral legislature) was just a coincidental quirk of history?

Not the exact same separation.
Separation of powers in the uk | Law Teacher
There Is No Absolute Doctrine Of Separation Of Powers In The UK Constitution. Overlaps Exist Both In Terms Of The Functions Of The Organs Of State And The Personnel Operating Within Them.

The organization is virtually identical. A judiciary nominated by the prime minister and confirmed by the house of lords. A house of commons, affirming the same bicameral legislature as we use here. And a prime minister which is analgous to the President in terms of scope of authority .

And try as I might, I've found exactly nothing in terms of actual quotes from James Madison that he was 'inspired' by Isaiah 33:23. Its just a series of religious websites quoting each other.

But never a quote of James Madison on the matter. It sounds like an old Christian folk tale.
 
Hey dummy since christians made the constitution I would say it is a moot question.....

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The Constitution is a "secular" docoment and there is no mention of any zombie God.


Just because the Constitution does not mention God does not mean that some of the Bible helped to inspire the Constitution.
Like no business done on Sundays or some of the Leviticus and Deuteronomy laws plus many others that are incorporated into the Constitution.
Sharia law....but enlighten us...what are these Leviticus/Deuteronomy laws incorporated in the Constitution?
Is there a reason I can't get an answer back on this?


Christianity vs. The Constitution - Christian Principles in the Constitution?
The Bible and Government - Faith Facts
All men are sinners Constitutional checks and balances Gen 8:21, Jer. 17:9, Mk. 7:20-23, Rom. 3:23, 1 Jn. 1:8
James Madison
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge, [judicial]
the LORD is our lawgiver, [legislative]
the LORD is our king; [executive]
He will save us.”
Baron Charles Montesquieu wrote "The Spirit of the Laws", a book that was read and studied intently by our Founders. Montesquieu wrote in 1748; “Nor is there liberty if the power of judging is not separated from legislative power and from executive power. If it [the power of judging] were joined to legislative power, the power over life and liberty of the citizens would be arbitrary, for the judge would be the legislature if it were joined to the executive power, the judge could have the force of an oppressor. All would be lost if the same … body of principal men … exercised these three powers." Madison claimed Isaiah 33:22 as the source of division of power in government.

As author of the Constitution, James Madison DID NOT write any of that crap into the U.S. Constitution.

As written, as enacted the Government of the U.S., under the Constitution has a clear Separation of Church and State.

Epic fail on your part.
 

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