Would you vote for Romney in 2016?

[deltex1]

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Why not the option to check off: Would you vote for him if he submitted to a lie detector test, published his i.q. score and birth certificate, and published his tax returns for the last 20 years.

Is that the Obabble standard?

 

[blackhawk]

I think it's pretty safe to assume he will not be running in 2016 so no.

 

[PoliticalTorch]

Poll

Well this is the latest poll that shows just how well he would fare if he was to try making that mistake again in running.

CNN Poll Romney tops Obama but loses to Clinton 8211 CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

 

[1776]

No.....he had his chance to take off the gloves and destroy Obama and being a pussy he didn't, thus lost.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If Romney were 2 years into his presidency and we had all those things Democrats would be pointing out how terrible those numbers were, how Romney only benefitted the 1%, and how things were really crap. ANd anything positive came from Obama's first term.

You know what is different about what you said and what I said?

In my case.....it is actually happening. GOP leaders are taking a shit on obviously positive economic news. They have been since day one of Obama's first term.

In your case, you are pulling your shit out of your butthurt ass.

but he is probably right.....its called politics....

Cool! When it happens.....let me know.

Both sides do it....MY ASS.

maybe you are to much of a party guy to notice.....or you dont want to notice.....either way if you dont see it like so many others dont.....then i just dont know what to do for you.....gladly there are a growing group of non-party people who can see it.....someday you will open your eyes LL.....cut the cord to that party....

What party? I'm registered independent. You are, once again, talking out of your ass.

yea sure LL.... an independent who just cant see what i just said....that both parties play that political game.........and you have more than once defended Democrats after i bad mouthed them....i dont know any independents that would do that....sorry....when i see you bad mouth the Democrats as bad as you do the Republicans....then maybe i will agree with you....until then......

You aren't paying attention. Not my problem.

My political views align more with Democrats than Republicans....but. I am registered independent. I am not a "joiner".

When you see me bad mouth Democrats as "bad" as I do Republicans? Name a Democrat.

i cant....you haven't bad mouthed any....

 

[The Rabbi]

No. He is the quintessential plutocrat.

And Liz Warren isnt?
Romney at least knows what it means to meet a payroll every month. When did Warren or Hillary ever meet a payroll?

What 'payroll'? Cutting bonus checks for shipping American jobs overseas?

I'd wonder if you had any connection to reality whatsoever. But I already know the answer to that one.

Rabbi, in typical Rabbi fashion, ignored the opportunity to prove the allegation false and defaulted to an attack on the person.

There is only one reason for this behavior, Rabbi cannot prove Romney has not shipped American jobs overseas.

Romney s Bain Capital invested in companies that moved jobs overseas - The Washington Post

But, as can be seen from the link above, more proof that Rabbi is a liar (or at best an ignorant partisan fool).

You're such an ass. Not only do you miss the point of the exchange, you default to merely bad mouthing me, in a not terriblly original way.
To recap since you're kind of stupid and have trouble paying attention: I made the claim that one area where Romney is a superior candidate is that he has experience meeting payrolls, something the Dems lack. Assaholic chimes in with his usual stupidity and ignroes that and defaults to the bumper sticker "Mitt sent jobs offshore." That deserves no response as it wasn't responsive to my post, nor is it particularly true, nor is it relevant.
You chime in like a pig in an operating room and accuse me of failing to answer the accusation. Of course Assoholic's "accusation" wasn't directed at anything I had written. So I had no need to defend or disprove it.
Carry on, Cocksucker.

 

[The Rabbi]

You had a man who generated wealth for himself and many others vs a guy whose legacy is affirmative action and the people elected the affirmative action guy? Even after he kept the economy in the hole? That just demonstrates how stupid and easily duped Americans have become.

Obama could not have won without the black vote,fraudulent and otherwise. Yet how much better off are blacks under Obama? They aren't. They are worse off. But they'd vote for him again.
Jews the same thing.

And then Righties wonder why Blacks and Jews and Latinos and American Indians and Asians and Pacific Islanders and Mitt Romney's "binders full of women" show so little interest in the GOP..... carry on, Rabbi, carry on.

Delish.

No, the answer is obvious. People who vote for Obama want free shit. Some of us Jews wised up. Obama's take of the Jewish vote was down severely from the first to the second election.
And then there are idiots like claiming to be Jewish who still support that asshole.

No, it was not.

2008, Jewish Vote:

Obama 78 / McCain 21 - Margin: Obama +56

2012, Jewish Vote:

Obama 69 / Romney 31 - Margin: Obama +38

This means that circa on in every 10 Jews who voted changed their preference between 2008 and 2012, making for a 20% shift.

Interestingly enough, the Jewish Vote statistic for 2004 lies between these two:

Kerry 74 / Bush (43) 25 - Margin: Kerry +50

Funny how you think that Jews from the Left are somehow not Jews.

Only an arrogant piece of shit like you could screw up a simple statistic. Obama got 78% of the Jewish vote in 2008 and 69% of the Jewish vote in 2012. His support among Jews was less.
You assume the exact same people voted in both elections. Just like you probably assume the exact same people in the lowest percentile of earners remain there for 30 years. In both cases you are full of shit.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If Romney were 2 years into his presidency and we had all those things Democrats would be pointing out how terrible those numbers were, how Romney only benefitted the 1%, and how things were really crap. ANd anything positive came from Obama's first term.

You know what is different about what you said and what I said?

In my case.....it is actually happening. GOP leaders are taking a shit on obviously positive economic news. They have been since day one of Obama's first term.

In your case, you are pulling your shit out of your butthurt ass.

but he is probably right.....its called politics....

Cool! When it happens.....let me know.

Both sides do it....MY ASS.

maybe you are to much of a party guy to notice.....or you dont want to notice.....either way if you dont see it like so many others dont.....then i just dont know what to do for you.....gladly there are a growing group of non-party people who can see it.....someday you will open your eyes LL.....cut the cord to that party....

What party? I'm registered independent. You are, once again, talking out of your ass.

yea sure LL.... an independent who just cant see what i just said....that both parties play that political game.........and you have more than once defended Democrats after i bad mouthed them....i dont know any independents that would do that....sorry....when i see you bad mouth the Democrats as bad as you do the Republicans....then maybe i will agree with you....until then......

You aren't paying attention. Not my problem.

My political views align more with Democrats than Republicans....but. I am registered independent. I am not a "joiner".

When you see me bad mouth Democrats as "bad" as I do Republicans? Name a Democrat.

i cant....you haven't bad mouthed any....

Is totally missing the point required to become a USMB nutter? I think it is.

 

[Harry Dresden]

If Romney were 2 years into his presidency and we had all those things Democrats would be pointing out how terrible those numbers were, how Romney only benefitted the 1%, and how things were really crap. ANd anything positive came from Obama's first term.

You know what is different about what you said and what I said?

In my case.....it is actually happening. GOP leaders are taking a shit on obviously positive economic news. They have been since day one of Obama's first term.

In your case, you are pulling your shit out of your butthurt ass.

but he is probably right.....its called politics....

Cool! When it happens.....let me know.

Both sides do it....MY ASS.

maybe you are to much of a party guy to notice.....or you dont want to notice.....either way if you dont see it like so many others dont.....then i just dont know what to do for you.....gladly there are a growing group of non-party people who can see it.....someday you will open your eyes LL.....cut the cord to that party....

What party? I'm registered independent. You are, once again, talking out of your ass.

yea sure LL.... an independent who just cant see what i just said....that both parties play that political game.........and you have more than once defended Democrats after i bad mouthed them....i dont know any independents that would do that....sorry....when i see you bad mouth the Democrats as bad as you do the Republicans....then maybe i will agree with you....until then......

You aren't paying attention. Not my problem.

My political views align more with Democrats than Republicans....but. I am registered independent. I am not a "joiner".

When you see me bad mouth Democrats as "bad" as I do Republicans? Name a Democrat.

i cant....you haven't bad mouthed any....

Is totally missing the point required to become a USMB nutter? I think it is.

if you think it is why are you asking me?....with as many points as you seem to miss i would have thought the nutters would have approached you by now....

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Is totally missing the point required to become a USMB nutter? I think it is.

That along with ignorance and stupidity, yes.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If Romney were 2 years into his presidency and we had all those things Democrats would be pointing out how terrible those numbers were, how Romney only benefitted the 1%, and how things were really crap. ANd anything positive came from Obama's first term.

You know what is different about what you said and what I said?

In my case.....it is actually happening. GOP leaders are taking a shit on obviously positive economic news. They have been since day one of Obama's first term.

In your case, you are pulling your shit out of your butthurt ass.

but he is probably right.....its called politics....

Cool! When it happens.....let me know.

Both sides do it....MY ASS.

maybe you are to much of a party guy to notice.....or you dont want to notice.....either way if you dont see it like so many others dont.....then i just dont know what to do for you.....gladly there are a growing group of non-party people who can see it.....someday you will open your eyes LL.....cut the cord to that party....

What party? I'm registered independent. You are, once again, talking out of your ass.

yea sure LL.... an independent who just cant see what i just said....that both parties play that political game.........and you have more than once defended Democrats after i bad mouthed them....i dont know any independents that would do that....sorry....when i see you bad mouth the Democrats as bad as you do the Republicans....then maybe i will agree with you....until then......

You aren't paying attention. Not my problem.

My political views align more with Democrats than Republicans....but. I am registered independent. I am not a "joiner".

When you see me bad mouth Democrats as "bad" as I do Republicans? Name a Democrat.

i cant....you haven't bad mouthed any....

Is totally missing the point required to become a USMB nutter? I think it is.

if you think it is why are you asking me?....with as many points as you seem to miss i would have thought the nutters would have approached you by now....

Weeeeeeeeeeee! Yer on a funny roll!

 

[Harry Dresden]

Is totally missing the point required to become a USMB nutter? I think it is.

That along with ignorance and stupidity, yes.

hey speaking of nutters and one of the best shows up....i would say ask Jones that question LL ....but he doesnt do questions.....maybe Franco or Speedos is still around....

 

[Super_Lantern]

Of course. And no matter how much the romney-hating section of the GOP wants to ignore this; he is doing more for the party right now than any of his 2016 competitors (if he ran) are


He may not be the most conservative guy out there. But he's right of center and a better over all candidate than more far-right conservatives (Perry, Cruz) are.


The establishment-hating section of conservative voters have had 6 years since the rise of President Obama and the "anyone but the establishment candidate" attitude rose, to find someone to represent the party how they want it presented. They still have no one to put up

 

[Machaut]

I picked "No Romney is not conservative enough".

Romney didn't win the Republican nomination for president, he bought it. He's not the only one; the general trend in primaries is whoever spends the most money gets it. Why anyone who looks at the candidate's positions and track record would vote for Romney is beyond me. In 2012, he was by far the weakest candidate in the field during the primary, and had no substantial differences with Obama in the general.

Why do people plug Romney? Do you actually think he's the best person for the job?

He was THE BEST QUALIFIED POTUS CANDIDATE in decades.

He was the best individual for the job. He was the finest individual to have run in decades. He was/is a WORLD CLASS BUSINESS TURNAROUND EXPERT.

When you have a sick child you choose the best surgeon no matter their politics.

We had/have a sick country and Romney is a SUPERSTAR at turning around large organizations.

DUH!

We could have hired him to play for OUR team!

Those who lament his past business activities might take a lesson from the world of MLB.

What?

You mean to say there is something we political types can learn from the highly paid millionaires who play baseball?

Yes.

When you face a team with a superstar player who always has a big game against your faves and is a hated but respected rival player, the thing SMART teams do is trade for that player so he will be scoring runs for YOU as well as making sure he can't continue helping to beat your club!

Mitt Romney is the MVP player on the other team YOU can get to pklay for you!

Well, that was the thought in 2012.

We could have hired THE BEST business leader possible to get America back on track.

If he did that would you really care if he took some time to finally realize he couldn't abide abortion any longer as Gov. of Mass?

Political elites picked Romney as the Republican nominee and helped him win that position for the express purpose of him losing to Obama.

Look at it from a strategic standpoint. Romney was portrayed as the crooked, greedy investor who made millions off the backs of the working class. Obama was sold as the working man's candidate, he was "one of us." While Saint Barack wanted to make sure everyone had access to affordable healthcare, the biggest pillar in the campaign of evil Romney was repealing Obamacare. Every debate, every ad, every soundbite, every appearance--let's undo Obama's work. In many of the statements he made where he wasn't directly attacking Obama, those not completely sold on voting for Romney still picked up the "I hate Obama" undertones.

Romney's political image was carefully crafted to be everything that people leaning even slightly to the left would hate. While Obama played the part of Messiah, Romney was cast as the Anti-Christ. It wasn't necessarily overt, and this wasn't done full-on from the beginning, but having followed the election from start to finish, this is the message the 2012 presidential race was meant to convey. You probably don't see it that way; you come across--at least to me--as someone who is skeptical of Obama and respects rather than abhors financial success. There is a prejudice inherent to all people that causes us to view the same facts in a completely different light.

For example, you say that "Romney is a SUPERSTAR at turning around large organizations", but this isn't how he was thought of at all. Gingrich established Romney's business record as that of a "corporate raider" early on in the primary, it stuck with him throughout the general, and there was no substantial effort made by him to correct it. If he had, some people might've supported him, while others would view his defensiveness as further self-incrimination.

Considering all of this, I stand by my earlier assertion that Romney was the worst of the Republicans running in 2012. Whoever our candidate is in 2016, it needs to be someone without all the baggage and who doesn't sound like a radical leftist caricature of a Republican.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Judicial appointments alone – particularly to the Supreme Court – is reason enough to vote against a given republican candidate for president; the likes of Scalia, Thomas, and Alito are evidence of that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Our country would be a lot more saner. Of course the race baiters like Sharpton, HOlder, jesse jackass wouldn't be able to whine as loud...

All good...I'd consider Romney in 2016.

 

[Machaut]

Of course. And no matter how much more the romney-hating section of the GOP wants to ignore this; he is doing more for the party right now than any of his 2016 competitors (if he ran) are

What is he doing for the Republican Party? That's not a sarcastic question. I haven't heard anything about him raising funds, campaigning for other candidates, etc.

The establishment-hating section of conservative voters have had 6 years since the rise of President Obama and the "anyone but the establishment candidate" attitude rose, to find someone to represent the party how they want it presented. They still have no one to put up

Agreed. Sadly, in 2016 the Tea Party types will likely get suckered into supporting either some sellout pseudo-libertarian or a great and well-principled candidate who is highly unprepared and under-funded.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The fact that he isn't a losertrian makes me like him more. He has the better part of the good idea's of the other side without the bull shit.

 

[Super_Lantern]

Of course. And no matter how much more the romney-hating section of the GOP wants to ignore this; he is doing more for the party right now than any of his 2016 competitors (if he ran) are

What is he doing for the Republican Party? That's not a sarcastic question. I haven't heard anything about him raising funds, campaigning for other candidates, etc.

The establishment-hating section of conservative voters have had 6 years since the rise of President Obama and the "anyone but the establishment candidate" attitude rose, to find someone to represent the party how they want it presented. They still have no one to put up

Agreed. Sadly, in 2016 the Tea Party types will likely get suckered into supporting either some sellout pseudo-libertarian or a great and well-principled candidate who is highly unprepared and under-funded.

Well that's ironic you haven't heard anything about him campaigning for the party because the majority of the press he's been getting for months is on the campaigning across the country he has been doing for GOP house representatives gearing up for the midterm elections.


Mitt Romney The man in demand on the campaign trail 8211 CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

From Failed Candidate to Kingmaker Romney Seeks Next GOP Star - NBC News

Mitt Romney s political renaissance MSNBC

As Democrats avoid Obama Romney is in demand on the midterm campaign trail - The Washington Post

 

[Lakhota]

Even John McCrazy rejected Romney in 2008...for Daisy Mae Mooseburger.