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If the document included evidence of editing as you CLAIM, then PLEASE SHOW US THE EDITS you say it had.....what was retouched as you claim....SURELY if your claim is TRUE, you would be able to show the editing that occurred....what was changed....SHOW IT, or eat your words.Cause the document they provided includes evidence of the editing. It has been widely reported that the editing, at least by software, occurred. Being an expert on image files, I looked at the file and they correctly reported the fact that an odd tool was used in the steps of getting the image to us. A tool that is typically used to "EDIT" documents. Not a tool that is used to make an actual image of the document. Basically the document they gave us is at best a mess. I'd like to see an un-retouched high resolution image of the original document please. And I'd like to have a data forensics expert look at the original file and attest to the originality of said document.Because it has. The handlers used adobe to scan it then print it again during a couple steps in the handling of what we eventually saw, it's not a high res photo of what they originally received. The only reason I know of to use adobe for this is when you want to add stuff to it such as comments or adding additional text that you want to look like it was originally there.Which part of my answer confused you?And again- how has the copy I posted been edited?
Your response didn't confuse me- your response didn't address the question- why do you think that photo has been edited?
'because it has'- and how do you know this? I mean other than waving your magic Birther wand over your monitor?
Stop putting words in my mouth. I already agreed to most of these statements.My guess is she took a photo of a "printout" of the document that the POTUS handler handed out. I would say that is a very good guess. However I have no proof that she took a photo of the document that the POTUS was handed by the State of Hawaii folks. Nor do I have proof that what the State of Hawaii folks provided is real. Thus at least two points of contention in the chain of document handling. Not to mention the obvious fact that the original document appears to have been put together over an extended period of time. Too bad the doctor's dead would have been interesting to hear his story of the birth. I should think Barry's birth parents would have been memorable.You are not listening.. The photo you showed me is not a photo taken from a camera. The jpg you linked to is a low resolution image that was not taken by a camera. The low resolution image was produced by undocumented image processing software. The jpg you linked to may be a processed version of what she took with a camera, but I see no evidence of that other than you saying she said it's her's.I did not say that. Is there a particular reason you are being such a stupid piece of shit?
I've looked over the document that you linked from that web site, and no that document does not exhibit the same type of tell tale signs of editing as did the document provided by the POTUS handlers.
And why would it? That is the photo taken by Savannah Guthrie- and posted on the internet by her- of the certified original that was handed around to reporters to examine- and it happens to be identical regarding the facts to the one that the White House released.
To recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
I could take the jpg you gave me put my pic in it, and give you the same file. Then I could say this is the photo I took and you would have no proof I'm telling the truth or lying.
I read what you posted previously fine- and this is the first time you have addressed this image.
It is pretty obvious that this image was originally taken with a camera- just from the image itself.
This is the image that was posted by reporter Savannah Guthrie- and posted on the internet by her- of the certified original that was handed around to reporters to examine- and it happens to be identical regarding the facts to the one that the White House released.
To recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
She took a photo of the certified photocopy that was handed out- with the imprinted seal of the State of Hawaii.
And I am sure that the doctor regrets being dead also- but why you think that a doctor in his 90's would remember one specific birth 50 years before.....or how he could verify that that baby is the adult Barack Obama is beyond me.
Again to recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
I ask again:
Why is there a huge difference between the Hawaiian officials' description of the long form in their "verification" and the long form that Obama belatedly produced after spending millions to keep it sealed?
And, why is the certificate number on the short form markedly out of sequence with the certificate numbers that were issued just before and just after it? "Clerical error"??? Really??? By that much???
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Here are some good articles on some of the technical evidence of forgery in Obama's birth documents:
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By the way, you Obamabots realize that when the White House first released the short form, the certificate number was blacked out, right? Have you forgotten that? When the White House later released the non-redacted version, which showed the certificate number, it turned out that, lo and behold, the certificate number was markedly out of sequence with the short form certificate numbers that were issued just before and just after it.
Any one of you wanna step up and try to explain why the certificate number would be so far out of sequence? (Hint: Probably because the forger didn't bother to check cert numbers when they produced the fake short form.)
One of the most recent and detailed analyses on the evidence of fraud in Obama's birth documents:
Affidavit White House birth certificate is a forgery
Stop putting words in my mouth. I already agreed to most of these statements.My guess is she took a photo of a "printout" of the document that the POTUS handler handed out. I would say that is a very good guess. However I have no proof that she took a photo of the document that the POTUS was handed by the State of Hawaii folks. Nor do I have proof that what the State of Hawaii folks provided is real. Thus at least two points of contention in the chain of document handling. Not to mention the obvious fact that the original document appears to have been put together over an extended period of time. Too bad the doctor's dead would have been interesting to hear his story of the birth. I should think Barry's birth parents would have been memorable.You are not listening.. The photo you showed me is not a photo taken from a camera. The jpg you linked to is a low resolution image that was not taken by a camera. The low resolution image was produced by undocumented image processing software. The jpg you linked to may be a processed version of what she took with a camera, but I see no evidence of that other than you saying she said it's her's.And why would it? That is the photo taken by Savannah Guthrie- and posted on the internet by her- of the certified original that was handed around to reporters to examine- and it happens to be identical regarding the facts to the one that the White House released.
To recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
I could take the jpg you gave me put my pic in it, and give you the same file. Then I could say this is the photo I took and you would have no proof I'm telling the truth or lying.
I read what you posted previously fine- and this is the first time you have addressed this image.
It is pretty obvious that this image was originally taken with a camera- just from the image itself.
This is the image that was posted by reporter Savannah Guthrie- and posted on the internet by her- of the certified original that was handed around to reporters to examine- and it happens to be identical regarding the facts to the one that the White House released.
To recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
She took a photo of the certified photocopy that was handed out- with the imprinted seal of the State of Hawaii.
And I am sure that the doctor regrets being dead also- but why you think that a doctor in his 90's would remember one specific birth 50 years before.....or how he could verify that that baby is the adult Barack Obama is beyond me.
Again to recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
Where is this "imprinted seal of the State of Hawaii" on the picture, I honestly don't see it. I see a very vague outline of something that looks like a seal stamp but it's really to vague to say what it is. Again where's the original photo she took? Why do we only have this filtered down jpg?
How does, fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bitch, sound to you? I'm busy.If the document included evidence of editing as you CLAIM, then PLEASE SHOW US THE EDITS you say it had.....what was retouched as you claim....SURELY if your claim is TRUE, you would be able to show the editing that occurred....what was changed....SHOW IT, or eat your words.Cause the document they provided includes evidence of the editing. It has been widely reported that the editing, at least by software, occurred. Being an expert on image files, I looked at the file and they correctly reported the fact that an odd tool was used in the steps of getting the image to us. A tool that is typically used to "EDIT" documents. Not a tool that is used to make an actual image of the document. Basically the document they gave us is at best a mess. I'd like to see an un-retouched high resolution image of the original document please. And I'd like to have a data forensics expert look at the original file and attest to the originality of said document.Because it has. The handlers used adobe to scan it then print it again during a couple steps in the handling of what we eventually saw, it's not a high res photo of what they originally received. The only reason I know of to use adobe for this is when you want to add stuff to it such as comments or adding additional text that you want to look like it was originally there.Which part of my answer confused you?
Your response didn't confuse me- your response didn't address the question- why do you think that photo has been edited?
'because it has'- and how do you know this? I mean other than waving your magic Birther wand over your monitor?
WHAT WAS EDITED?
Thx...Stop putting words in my mouth. I already agreed to most of these statements.My guess is she took a photo of a "printout" of the document that the POTUS handler handed out. I would say that is a very good guess. However I have no proof that she took a photo of the document that the POTUS was handed by the State of Hawaii folks. Nor do I have proof that what the State of Hawaii folks provided is real. Thus at least two points of contention in the chain of document handling. Not to mention the obvious fact that the original document appears to have been put together over an extended period of time. Too bad the doctor's dead would have been interesting to hear his story of the birth. I should think Barry's birth parents would have been memorable.You are not listening.. The photo you showed me is not a photo taken from a camera. The jpg you linked to is a low resolution image that was not taken by a camera. The low resolution image was produced by undocumented image processing software. The jpg you linked to may be a processed version of what she took with a camera, but I see no evidence of that other than you saying she said it's her's.
I could take the jpg you gave me put my pic in it, and give you the same file. Then I could say this is the photo I took and you would have no proof I'm telling the truth or lying.
I read what you posted previously fine- and this is the first time you have addressed this image.
It is pretty obvious that this image was originally taken with a camera- just from the image itself.
This is the image that was posted by reporter Savannah Guthrie- and posted on the internet by her- of the certified original that was handed around to reporters to examine- and it happens to be identical regarding the facts to the one that the White House released.
To recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
She took a photo of the certified photocopy that was handed out- with the imprinted seal of the State of Hawaii.
And I am sure that the doctor regrets being dead also- but why you think that a doctor in his 90's would remember one specific birth 50 years before.....or how he could verify that that baby is the adult Barack Obama is beyond me.
Again to recap:
State of Hawaii says President Obama born in Hawaii
State of Hawaii says it issued certified photocopies of the original BC
White House scans and posts copy of the BC sent by Hawaii
President Obama shows said certified copies to reporters.
Savannah Guthrie photographs 1 of the copies- which is virtually identical to the one the White House posts.
Not a single reporter who saw the originals says that what the White House or Ms. Guthrie posted was not the same.
State of Hawaii says that the White House posted on the internet Obama's certified Birth Certificate.
So of course you don't believe any of that.
Where is this "imprinted seal of the State of Hawaii" on the picture, I honestly don't see it. I see a very vague outline of something that looks like a seal stamp but it's really to vague to say what it is. Again where's the original photo she took? Why do we only have this filtered down jpg?
I would imagine the 'original' is on the phone she took it with- if it still exists at all in the original form. Once it gets moved off of a phone, its no longer the original. You will never see the 'original' of virtually all published digital photo's.
Here is Savannah Guthrie herself telling you about the raised seal
Be Sealed - Obama Conspiracy Theories
Seems the BIRTHER ISSUE is playing WELL to the average citizen....
"TRUTH" Trump tops national poll for second straight week (Leads with Hispanics and Blacks vs. Jeb!)
The Hill ^ | 7/14/15 | Neetzan Zimmerman
Donald Trump has topped the rest of the GOP presidential field for the second time in as many weeks, according to a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY poll. The national poll of voters who identify as Republicans or independents shows Trump in the lead with 17 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 14 percent.
Seems the BIRTHER ISSUE is playing WELL to the average citizen....
"TRUTH" Trump tops national poll for second straight week (Leads with Hispanics and Blacks vs. Jeb!)
The Hill ^ | 7/14/15 | Neetzan Zimmerman
Donald Trump has topped the rest of the GOP presidential field for the second time in as many weeks, according to a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY poll. The national poll of voters who identify as Republicans or independents shows Trump in the lead with 17 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 14 percent.
Oh thats not the average citizen- Trump is playing well with the GOP......and people planning on voting in the GOP primaries
Suffolk University USA TODAY Poll Shows Trump on Top with GOP Voters Nationwide - Suffolk University
Run Trump Run!
Seems the BIRTHER ISSUE is playing WELL to the average citizen....
"TRUTH" Trump tops national poll for second straight week (Leads with Hispanics and Blacks vs. Jeb!)
The Hill ^ | 7/14/15 | Neetzan Zimmerman
Donald Trump has topped the rest of the GOP presidential field for the second time in as many weeks, according to a new Suffolk University/USA TODAY poll. The national poll of voters who identify as Republicans or independents shows Trump in the lead with 17 percent, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush with 14 percent.
Raw unadulterated hate for President Barack Hussein Obama.stupid is as stupid does....
and birthers at this point are just intentionally and willfully being, and playing, stupid....the Lord only knows why?
"...connect the dots..."Did Obama Kill His Grandmother?
No
Just more Birther lies, speculation and innuendo.
That's not a refutation....just so you know. Funny how Grandma was knocked off JUST BEFORE THE ELECTION. You have to be willingly blind not to connect the dots.
