Young Conservative DESTROYS gay rights fascists

[GISMYS]

JESUS sends out his followers to share the good news(the gospel) with ALL people.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[JakeStarkey]

I see we have another elitist left winger, such as Pogo, that believes his own bullshit...Google it, dummy!

Fascism, a one party government dominated by a Leader that eschews democracy and encourages corporatism (government and business), is the hope of the Far Right and their no information people, like Vigilante

Where do these people come from?....Fascism and Marxism are the two primary forms of Socialism! Yes, SOCIALISM is a RIGHT WING FUNDAMENTAL.... Someone save us from abject stupidity!

Vigilante, listen up and shut up because you are sounding like an ignoramus. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts and narrative.

You are looking foolish here. Hitler killed homosexuals, he killed communists, he killed socialists, and he would have welcomed you because you are obviously a foolish person.

 

[JakeStarkey]

[I made no such statement, I only speak from my own experiences with gays. So, , don't put words in my mouth, and your little baiting trial, failed, as do most of your posts!

Hmmm. Readers, check the post immediately above.

Yes, observation, is a hard concept for you to deal with, when everything you have to offer fails! But, subversives are so easy to bitch slap!

Yes, you hang out with homosexuals in their haunts and talk of your experiences with gays.

Your remarks fit the pattern of the classic latent homosexual.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

BUT YOU ARE DIFFERENT, if you weren't, you wouldn't be GAY! Two men, or 2 women are NOT the same as a man and a woman...need I explain the difference? You would have EXACTLY the same rights from the government as a married couple have. And YES, religion, and tradition ARE factors in beliefs about GAYS, that's why IN THE CONSTITUTION we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Because YOU, and others don't like it, what makes YOU and others think they're rights are ABOVE others...and this coming from an agnostic!

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

The big deal is you are incorrect.
The US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"....
That does not mean freedom FROM religion. Rather it is freedom OF religion.
Our traditions are part of the distinct American culture. Now you have the right to do as you please, so as long as you do not infringe upon the rights of others or do harm to another. However, you do not get to use your rights to squash the rights of another just because you feel uncomfortable.
For example, how far does your side think it can take this anti Christian crusade before Christians start fighting back....Uh oh. You're too late. It's started already.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Bigotry and homophobia are characteristics of the uneducated and ignorant.

It's safe to say those who embrace equality of all are the winners.

Bigotry cuts across ideological lines.
Remember that..

 

[JakeStarkey]

We see Vigilante poorly attempt to enact Alinsky's Twelfth Rule.

"Ah, yes. Alinsky's RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

The fact is this: Vigilante is far right reactionary wing nut who thinks his opinion substitutes for narrative and facts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The big deal is you are incorrect.
The US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".... That does not mean freedom FROM religion. Rather it is freedom OF religion. Our traditions are part of the distinct American culture. Now you have the right to do as you please, so as long as you do not infringe upon the rights of others or do harm to another. However, you do not get to use your rights to squash the rights of another just because you feel uncomfortable. For example, how far does your side think it can take this anti Christian crusade before Christians start fighting back....Uh oh. You're too late. It's started already.

Error. We the People are protected from and of religion. We may not take away each others' rights. Marriage equality in no way whatsoever injures Christians civilly or religiously.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

That's what we want to know, what's the big deal? You have all the rights of a straight couple, and who is forcing you to do anything with religion? NO ONE! What do you mean one segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined? The GAY community CHANGED to gay from QUEER! Now they want to corrupt the word marriage, that has been defined as a man and a women joining to form a family, into what, 2 men can, 2 women can, how about a man and a dog, or a woman and a tree? That's a marriage to some weirdo's! Get over yourselves, and join in instead of being an INTOLERANT thorn in society. Keep you sexual deviances to yourselves, as MOST STRAIGHTS do. What is your personal life should remain your personal life, not forced or thrown into others!

Why do you look at gay people only in a sexual way?

Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question.

 

[Vigilante]

Fascism, a one party government dominated by a Leader that eschews democracy and encourages corporatism (government and business), is the hope of the Far Right and their no information people, like Vigilante

Where do these people come from?....Fascism and Marxism are the two primary forms of Socialism! Yes, SOCIALISM is a RIGHT WING FUNDAMENTAL.... Someone save us from abject stupidity!

Vigilante, listen up and shut up because you are sounding like an ignoramus. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts and narrative.

You are looking foolish here. Hitler killed homosexuals, he killed communists, he killed socialists, and he would have welcomed you because you are obviously a foolish person.

Hitler also killed American, Englishmen, Frenchmen, and sundry other Patriotic and right thinking people.

Who did Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot etc. kill?

And you call me an ignoramus!

Comes from the Pogo stick, PaintMyShack, and Jake the Flake school of Progressive thinking! This gets easier with each utterance from these "people"!

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Whose forcing Christians to get same-sex married? How are Christians being forced to do anything by law? And if so, are they attempting to redress those grievances with the government?

Is it religious persecution to force everyone to live by Christian beliefs?

 

[Vigilante]

We see Vigilante poorly attempt to enact Alinsky's Twelfth Rule.

"Ah, yes. Alinsky's RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

The fact is this: Vigilante is far right reactionary wing nut who thinks his opinion substitutes for narrative and facts.

Then refute me, and the others on here that agree with the stance I take!

Instead, you personally attack, and only get back more than you utter!

I point out what you do, and you still can't refute it...how pathetic are you, and your positions?

 

[thereisnospoon]

After reading this, I see that there still is hope that America realizes that the subversive agenda can, must, and will be defeated by our young, who will not stand on the side of the road, watching America become another third world! .....Now to hear the SQUAK of the TOLERANT leftists!

Dear gay rights militants, dear progressive tyrants, dear liberal fascists, dear haters of free speech, dear crusaders for ideological conformity, dear left wing bullies:

You will lose.

I know you’ve got legions of sycophants kowtowing to you these days, and the rest you’ve set out to destroy — but you will lose.

So, you’ve tracked another dissident and skinned him alive. You’ve made an example of Brendan Eich, and now you dance joyously around his disemboweled carcass. You have his head on a spike, and you consider this a conquest in your eternal crusade to eradicate diversity and punish differing opinions. You launched your millionth campaign of intimidation, and now another good man has been dragged through the mud, to the sounds of taunting and jeering and death threats.

You found out that the CEO of Mozilla gave a few dollars to support a pro-traditional marriage ballot measure several years ago, and you proceeded to publicly tar and feather him until he was forced to ‘resign’ in disgrace.
You again chose to forgo debate, in favor of coercion and bullying.
You again attempted to end the ‘gay rights’ argument by defrocking your opponent.

Hey, good for you.

Enjoy the spoils of your cowardice.

It won’t last.

You will still lose.

Don’t you people read? Haven’t you learned anything from history?

‘Advancements’ earned through tyranny never endure. You can only win a debate by suffocating your opposition for so long. Your strategy is doomed for failure, because it has always failed.

In the name of ‘fighting for the freedom to love,’ you’ve utilized hate. For the sake of ‘tolerance,’ you’ve wielded bigotry. In order to push ‘diversity,’ you’ve been dogmatic.

You are everything you accuse your opponents of being, and you stand for all the evil things that you claim they champion.
You are exposed. We see you for what you are: a force of destruction and division.
You showed your hand, and now you’ll lose the game.

It’s inevitable.

Marriage has, had, and always will have, by definition, a certain character and purpose; a character and purpose centered around, above all things, the family. Marriage is the foundation through which a thriving and lasting civilization sees to the propagation of itself. Human beings can only reproduce by means of ‘heterosexuality,’ and this reality sets the ‘heterosexual’ union apart. Marriage is meant to be the context in which this reproduction occurs.

Marriage is many things, but it is also this. And ‘this’ can never be removed from it, no matter the direction of the political winds, or the motion of the shifting sands of public opinion.

Marriage and the family are dimensions of the same whole. They cannot be detached from one another. They, as a whole, as an institution, can only be weakened — not erased or redefined. And so the campaign to protect and strengthen the institution was and is designed to do just that. It was never about ‘legislating love’ or imposing intolerance or ‘discriminating against gay people,’ or any other silly bumper sticker platitude.

You want to be free to love? You are. You always have been.

Heterosexuals don’t claim to monopolize love; only reproduction. Me, I love in many ways and in many directions. I love my wife, yes, and I also love my parents, and my country, and football, and hamburgers. These are all different kinds and degrees of love, yet still love.

But, alas, only one of these loves can (or should) result in the creation of a biological family. Thus, this love carries with it a certain distinction and a certain responsibility.

Bigotry? There is nothing bigoted about it. This is mere science. You see, bigotry only enters into the conversation when you try to destroy a man’s life just for participating in the conversation.
You are the agents of bigotry, my friends. You. You are what you say we are.

I don’t know much about Brendan Eich, and neither do you. I know that he is a revolutionary mind in his field and he became the CEO of Mozilla because of his professional merits. That’s all the information I would have ever seen as relevant or important. But none of that matters to you. You decided to cast all of that aside because you took a peek at the names of Prop 8 donors — names that were only publicized in order to punish and shame those who supported the measure — and determined that everyone listed must be punished.

You fancy yourselves the ideological descendants of civil rights pioneers, but these tactics put you in the same vein as book burners and Puritan witch hunters. When your story is ultimately told, it’ll read more like The Crucible than the Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr.

And that’s why you’ll lose.

You might have fooled society forever if you’d just kept singing about love and kindness, and never started bombarding Christians with your bitter hate and hostility. You might have gained some lasting ground if you hoisted your banner of free love, and never used it to diminish free speech.
But the proverbial cat is out of the bag. You’ve been made.

Because of your own behavior, when people like myself tell the world about the vicious death wishes and vulgar hate mail we receive from your kind on a DAILY basis, everyone will believe us. It’s no secret anymore. Without question and without exaggeration, the ‘gay rights movement’ is the angriest, most ruthless, most controlling, most intolerant of all the ideological enterprises in the country. Now, everyone knows it.
So you’ll lose. People are starting to see that you are the pigs on this Animal Farm, and the equality of which you preach is a very unequal equality indeed.

Let other conservatives write the ‘woe is me’ posts. In truth, woe is you. One way or another.

You’ll lose. You’ll lose for these reasons, and this:
With each passing day, it gets harder and harder for you to control the conversation.

Eich’s greatest contribution to combating gay rights militants didn’t come in the form of a paltry donation to Prop 8 — it came through his work developing the medium that makes censorship nearly impossible. I’m not saying that was his motivation, but it’s the result. You can boycott Reality TV shows and fast food restaurants all you want, but you can’t shutdown the internet.

For all its downside, the internet still gives voice to people who would be otherwise silenced by oppressors like yourselves. Take yours truly, for example. I’m just one dude — insignificant and unimportant — but there are many like me. I’m not employed by any major corporation. I’m not employed at all, in fact. You can’t get me fired; I work for myself.
You can’t muzzle me, or anyone else out here in the wild wilderness of cyberspace. You can keep sending us mean emails and telling us to kill ourselves (thanks for the helpful suggestion!), but that only emboldens us.
In the meantime, in honor of Mozilla and the gay rights fascists, I’ve talked with my wife and we’ve decided to donate a portion of our monthly ad revenue to the fight to protect the sanctity of life and marriage. So thank you for reading this — you are directly contributing to the ‘anti-gay rights’ cause!

See, you can’t win.

Victimize one guy and you simply succeed in creating a thousand others who are sufficiently fed up with your garbage.

You still lose.

The truth prevails.

Always.

Regards,
Matt Walsh

You are what you say we are: Bigots ? Matt Walsh DESTROYS gay rights fascists | Young Conservatives

The kid is right about the lefts not winning on the basis of the bullying tactics....however, he is wrong about Brendan Eich...

If Eich had conviction of his beliefs, he would not have resigned and just laughed at the pressure.

No amount of attacks against Me will force Me to resign or change My mind on deeply held beliefs. I have no dog in this gay marriage fight because I think that everyone is arguing the wrong issue. However, if I thought gay marriage was wrong, I would not hesitate to say so, and stand by the reasons I had. They would have to drag Me dead from a job before I'd resign.

Trust this....Eich was offered the opportunity to leave the company. He was most likely given a large settlement or some other type of financial arrangement to vacate his seat.
This is done at the board room level all the time. The goal is to save the company the embarrassment of a public battle.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Probably for the same reason you do.

What was that? You didn't know you were dominating the definition of a word? What the fuck did you think you were doing?

Those who support equal rights for all, to include same-sex marriage, aren't arguing about the definition of a word, but actual equality. Have you heard arguments to change the definition of marriage or have you heard arguments NOT to change the definition of marriage? Conservatives use the "Don't change the definition of marriage" argument. Those who want equality just argue for equality.

Excuse me?

Many people, a vast majority of the planet, views marriage as a religious rite. The people who are advocating for same sex marraige want to redefine it as a government sanctioned relationship. They is even a concerted movement to sue churches to force them to perform them.

Maybe you should stop thinking you know what you are talking about and actually open your eyes.

 

[Vigilante]

Whose forcing Christians to get same-sex married? How are Christians being forced to do anything by law? And if so, are they attempting to redress those grievances with the government?

Is it religious persecution to force everyone to live by Christian beliefs?

A blinding example is the contraceptive clause in Obumacare forcing the religious, and religious institutions to go directly against their Constitutional right of "FREEDOM OF RELIGION" You do not see that? Then you can't see how their religious teachings, having Constitutional rights, is being infringed upon!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Bigotry and homophobia are characteristics of the uneducated and ignorant.

Homofascism is the bigotry of the ignorant and/or dishonest. And they use terms like homophobia to quash any dissent or discussion.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Look at these CDC stats and be very concerned.
LOOKIE HERE

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

Why do you keep arguing against your position? Is it because you are an idiot that doesn't think things through?

The ad hominem doesn't strengthen your position. Address the rest of the arguments if you would like to discuss the topic.

That was not an ad hominen, that was a question, have you really thought about what the words you are sating actually mean? If no segment of society holds dominion over the definition of a word then the people demanding same sex marraige have no more claim to the word than anyone else. If, on the other hand, you think your side has a better demand than the other side, you are arguing that you still have no right to demand that the word fit your definition.

Sorry if you can't actually follow that, it comes from never being taught to think critically in school. You should take up the challenge of teaching yourself, it is a useful talent.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Because different is not equal. Why do you think one segment of society gets to dominate the definition of a word? Because of religion? Because of tradition? Neither of those are compelling reasons to oppress others.

Different is not equal?
That is a ridiculous concept. Check that..It's absurd.
So...Let's see...Men and women are different....People of various races are different.
Various religions are different.
Several years ago radical feminists went ballistic over a study that concluded men and women process information differently. Their claim was that human nature would require us to compare the two and then declare one must be better than the other.
Feminists feared that because if people discovered the thought patterns were different, they would determine that the way men processed information was "better" or superior to that of women.
No one is being oppressed. That's a lame talking point.

Different under THE LAW.

If the Law treats people differently, then we are not all equal under THE LAW.

I hope that helps make my argument clearer for you.

Funny thing about the law, it treats people differently.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

BUT YOU ARE DIFFERENT, if you weren't, you wouldn't be GAY! Two men, or 2 women are NOT the same as a man and a woman...need I explain the difference? You would have EXACTLY the same rights from the government as a married couple have. And YES, religion, and tradition ARE factors in beliefs about GAYS, that's why IN THE CONSTITUTION we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. Because YOU, and others don't like it, what makes YOU and others think they're rights are ABOVE others...and this coming from an agnostic!

I'm an agnostic. No where in the Constitution is there a Right to force citizens to live by another's religion or traditions. And different under the Law is not equal under the Law. One segment of society doesn't hold dominion over the way a word is defined. Especially when there is no practical reason to deny two homosexuals to do the same thing as two heterosexuals. It has no real world effect on anyone else for gay people to get married. So what's the big deal?

The big deal is you are incorrect.
The US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"....
That does not mean freedom FROM religion. Rather it is freedom OF religion.
Our traditions are part of the distinct American culture. Now you have the right to do as you please, so as long as you do not infringe upon the rights of others or do harm to another. However, you do not get to use your rights to squash the rights of another just because you feel uncomfortable.
For example, how far does your side think it can take this anti Christian crusade before Christians start fighting back....Uh oh. You're too late. It's started already.

Are you actually arguing that Christians can force US citizens to live by Christian beliefs? Is that what you think the First Amendment states? Are you claiming that I, as an agnostic, am not free from religion?

Please, explain how same-sex marriage infringes on your rights or harms you.

About 79% of Americans identify as Christians. About 16% identify as atheist/agnostic/no faith. Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. So, by fight back do you mean oppress, further, another minority? It is not you Christians with your powerful political special interest groups (Google Christian lobbying groups to get an idea of who and how many), who are the largest majority in this nation, who get to act like powerless little victims when we fight back. It is you who attempt to oppress others and force them to live by your religious beliefs.