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Uncensored and Mac,
You've both run businesses that have rewarded employees who worked massive overtime?
Uncensored and Mac,
You've both run businesses that have rewarded employees who worked massive overtime?
Yes.
It's always a gamble, but if extra effort can be made into gross margin, then it pays off BIG through bonuses. On a good year, my bonus is 75% of my salary. On a bad year, I get nothing. This gives me a stake in the corporation and a solid desire to make it succeed. This is how it works for salaried employees.
Uncensored and Mac,
You've both run businesses that have rewarded employees who worked massive overtime?
Anyone who have ever shopped in a mall may have noticed that the salespeople - usually in their adult teens or early twenties - are hired as "managers" or "supervisors" and thus are paid a salary, usually minimum wage, and are exempt from OT rules. They are in fact not "managers" or "supervisors" but simply sales clerks given a title so the business owner can have them work for more than 40 hours per week and increase his or her profits.
This is in my opinion the reason for Obama's direction to the Dept. of Labor, to end this form of exploitation. As usual, Rabbi and other Obama haters conflate this effort into an hysterical anti business diatribe, typical of the dishonest.
Dishonest is right.
There are laws and then there is justice. A lot of conservatives see compliance with the law as automatically dispensing justice. I think where liberals have a gigantic intellectual victory over conservatives is that we realize that adherence to the law does not automatically dispense justice. Often far from it.
That a woman can have an abortion (or not) but totally dependent upon her decision, the father may be on the hook for 18 years of child support (for a kid he may not have wanted) is the law. But nobody could convince me that this is just. I will say that any father who doesn't pay for that is a scumbucket but we're talking laws and justice here; not morality.
Look, laws are often written by lobbyists who simply hand over the document to a legislator they support; it gets passed and presto, Julie who is 18 and works at Forever 21 is a supervisor and is barred from getting overtime. Laws are slanted all the time. Justice is what happens (or not) when laws are enforced.
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From an economic end of the spectrum...one of the reasons that so many companies hire part-time workers is because they have Julie working 50 hours a week and are paying her 40. Now, thanks to our President, that they have to pay Julie more...look for the PT employees to get more hours.
Thank you Mr. President.
Beautiful isn't it?
A redistribution of wealth. More money in workers pockets. Dare we call it.....Socialism?
If a Republican ever gets to be President again, they can make people go back to working for free
Under Clinton I got bonuses, under GW I had the priviledge of helping my managers collect huge bonuses.
As if the presidential puppet has anything to do with your employers bonus structure.
Ame®icano;8772039 said:I think you got it wrong. You said you were getting bonuses under Clinton, then under GW you helped your managers to collect bonuses. You give credits or blaming those who has pretty much nothing to do with it. What about now, are you getting bonus?
And what are your skills precisely?
All I am saying here is that I think you are pointing fingers in wrong direction.
And this is the hilarious thing with all the hyperpartisan KatznDogs/ShootSpeeders type who are screaming bloody murder at dictator Obama, he's just adjusting a threshold that was last adjusted by Bush but hasn't been indexed for inflation since 2004.
They read a talking point at whatever stupid source they spend their days loading up on ammo from without even firing a synapse to self-check if they make any sense.
You're not just dumb, you're nasty as well as ignorant and ridiculous. You may yet qualify for The Rabbi Award.
Ame®icano;8772039 said:I think you got it wrong. You said you were getting bonuses under Clinton, then under GW you helped your managers to collect bonuses. You give credits or blaming those who has pretty much nothing to do with it. What about now, are you getting bonus?
And what are your skills precisely?
All I am saying here is that I think you are pointing fingers in wrong direction.
Obviously he's a White House intern.....
Ame®icano;8772556 said:Anyone who have ever shopped in a mall may have noticed that the salespeople - usually in their adult teens or early twenties - are hired as "managers" or "supervisors" and thus are paid a salary, usually minimum wage, and are exempt from OT rules. They are in fact not "managers" or "supervisors" but simply sales clerks given a title so the business owner can have them work for more than 40 hours per week and increase his or her profits.
This is in my opinion the reason for Obama's direction to the Dept. of Labor, to end this form of exploitation. As usual, Rabbi and other Obama haters conflate this effort into an hysterical anti business diatribe, typical of the dishonest.
Dishonest is right.
There are laws and then there is justice. A lot of conservatives see compliance with the law as automatically dispensing justice. I think where liberals have a gigantic intellectual victory over conservatives is that we realize that adherence to the law does not automatically dispense justice. Often far from it.
That a woman can have an abortion (or not) but totally dependent upon her decision, the father may be on the hook for 18 years of child support (for a kid he may not have wanted) is the law. But nobody could convince me that this is just. I will say that any father who doesn't pay for that is a scumbucket but we're talking laws and justice here; not morality.
Look, laws are often written by lobbyists who simply hand over the document to a legislator they support; it gets passed and presto, Julie who is 18 and works at Forever 21 is a supervisor and is barred from getting overtime. Laws are slanted all the time. Justice is what happens (or not) when laws are enforced.
---
From an economic end of the spectrum...one of the reasons that so many companies hire part-time workers is because they have Julie working 50 hours a week and are paying her 40. Now, thanks to our President, that they have to pay Julie more...look for the PT employees to get more hours.
Thank you Mr. President.
Here we go again... leftie talking about fairness without knowing that more evil and harm gets done in the name of righteousness and fairness than any other way...
Dishonest is right.
There are laws and then there is justice. A lot of conservatives see compliance with the law as automatically dispensing justice. I think where liberals have a gigantic intellectual victory over conservatives is that we realize that adherence to the law does not automatically dispense justice. Often far from it.
That a woman can have an abortion (or not) but totally dependent upon her decision, the father may be on the hook for 18 years of child support (for a kid he may not have wanted) is the law. But nobody could convince me that this is just. I will say that any father who doesn't pay for that is a scumbucket but we're talking laws and justice here; not morality.
Look, laws are often written by lobbyists who simply hand over the document to a legislator they support;
it gets passed and presto, Julie who is 18 and works at Forever 21 is a supervisor and is barred from getting overtime. Laws are slanted all the time. Justice is what happens (or not) when laws are enforced.
From an economic end of the spectrum...one of the reasons that so many companies hire part-time workers is because they have Julie working 50 hours a week and are paying her 40. Now, thanks to our President, that they have to pay Julie more...look for the PT employees to get more hours.
Thank you Mr. President.
I am a software developer.
Under GWs 2004 easing of off-shoring and massive increases in H1-Bs I became expendable even as I watched 50 of India's Best and Brightest getting NOTHING done.
Nothing on Wall Street matters except for the next quarters results.
MBAs focus on cost of labor, compliance of labor and willingness to work inhumane hours.
Most of my friends are accountants and lawyers; they saw their bonuses vanish as they were afraid the same thing was going to happen to them.
They are fully aware that Bill Gates, since 1998, has been crying for Business-Visas across all professions.
Another bottom line of this. What use is the Unions if the government is going to pass contracts via the law? Or more to the point of this thread, by executive order?
People go into jobs knowing what they get paid. If we had a better economy then competition would drive what people are paid. I assume what else will happen is bonuses will be eliminated.
The factor of knowing one's wage is no longer true.
Our Free Market, Global Employee Pool has produced layoffs and sever paycuts.
My wife's profession now requires a PhD which, by today's wage standard, will NEVER pay off.
Of course corporations, such as ProHealth, which are buying up Medical Practices like wildfire, are pushing for the proposed Immigration Reform which will deluge our shores with Indian "physicians".
By the way, when a Physician signs up with ProHealth they only have a 2 year contract.
Obama should change overtime to triple pay for overtime. That way it would give businesses incentive to hire more people, instead of putting the extra work load on those that have jobs.
Ever hear of automation, keep this shit up and kiss your jobs goodbye
Cons really have a clue, don't they. Who the fuck is going to buy your products, if nobody has a job?
Cons really have a clue, don't they. Who the fuck is going to buy your products, if nobody has a job?
Comrade Ratshit, are there warehouses full of goods that can not be sold? If so, please point to them?
Why should they hire more people when they can get salaried employees to work for free
Let's see....
A salaried employee (someone who gets a salary)....works for free.
Salaried Employee
Work 40 hours get paid $1000 a week
Work 60 hours and get paid $1000 a week
What a sham
I talk to them every day. Every day. Working ten hour days, six days a week - straight time.
Ridiculous.
