Zionism and Nazism: is there a difference that makes a difference?

[Marc39]

Zionism and Nazism: is there a difference that makes a difference? No

Good thing there is an internet for ugly ass dead-enders with no friends to vent their rage.

Otherwise, you might put a bullet in your head.

 

[georgephillip]

Possibly they objected to the British colonial enterprise known as "The Jewish State of Israel" even then taking shape in a part of the world where Jews were still a minority of voters?

Clueless one, Israel existed 3200 years ago.
Not one Arab country, today, existed prior to World War I.

Open a book, you embarrass yourself.

Whether Jews cleansed Canaan of its indigenous population 3000 years ago or not, in 1948 CE there were 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Mandate Palestine.

Had the UN acted in the best interests of the majority of those living between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River at that time, one person one vote would have rendered a Jewish homeland in Palestine DOA.

And the world today would be a far more peaceful place.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As long as Israel occupies Palestine, there will be no peace.

The fake peace talks are meaningless. They just dance around the real issues.

 

[Marc39]

As long as Israel occupies Palestine, there will be no peace.

Palestine doesn't exist, dummy. Such stupidity is why you have no reputational points.

Middle East historian Bernard Lewis...

The Palestine entity, formally established and defined by Britain, was formally abolished in 1948 with the termination of the Mandate.

Israel occupies...Israel...

The League of Nations agreed...

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

Allah agrees...
Quran 5:20-21...

Remember Moses said to his people: 'O my people! Recall in remembrance the favor of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.

Barack Obama agrees...:

Israel is a sovereign state, and the historic homeland of the Jewish people.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States. The slaughter of innocent Israelis is not resistance -- it's injustice

Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House


Winston Churchill agreed...:

The Jews had Palestine before that indigenous population [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it

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The US Congress agrees...

The United States Congressional Record
1922 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NATIONAL HOME FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE JUNE 30, 1922
HOUSE RESOLUTION 360 - UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED

Palestine of today, the land we now know as Palestine, was peopled by the Jews from the dawn of history until the Roman era. It is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. They were driven from it by force by the relentless Roman military machine and for centuries prevented from returning. At different periods various alien people succeeded them but the Jewish race had left an indelible impress upon the land.

Today it is a Jewish country. Every name, every landmark, every monument and every trace of whatever civilization remaining there is still Jewish. And it has ever since remained a hope, a longing, as expressed in their prayers for these nearly 2,000 years. No other people has ever claimed Palestine as their national home. No other people has ever shown an aptitude or indicated a genuine desire to make it their homeland. The land has been ruled by foreigners. Only since the beginning of the modern Zionist effort may it be said that a creative, cultural, and economic force has entered Palestine. The Jewish Nation was forced from its natural home. It did not go because it wanted to.

A perusal of Jewish history, a reading of Josephus, will convince the most skeptical that the grandest fight that was ever put up against an enemy was put up by the Jew. He never thought of leaving Palestine. But he was driven out. But did he, when driven out, give up his hope of getting back? Jewish history and Jewish literature give the answer to the question. The Jew even has a fast day devoted to the day of destruction of the Jewish homeland.

Never throughout history did they give up hope of returning there. I am told that 90 per cent of the Jews today are praying for the return of the Jewish people to its own home. The best minds among them believe in the necessity of reestablishing their Jewish land. To my mind there is something prophetic in the fact that during the ages no other nation has taken over Palestine and held it in the sense of a homeland; and there is something providential in the fact that for 1,800 years it has remained in desolation as if waiting for the return of the people.

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[P F Tinmore]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

 

[Marc39]

Possibly they objected to the British colonial enterprise known as "The Jewish State of Israel" even then taking shape in a part of the world where Jews were still a minority of voters?

Clueless one, Israel existed 3200 years ago.
Not one Arab country, today, existed prior to World War I.

Open a book, you embarrass yourself.

Whether Jews cleansed Canaan of its indigenous population 3000 years ago or not, in 1948 CE there were 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Mandate Palestine.

Uneducated one, Mandate Palestine was turned into three Arabs states in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. Arabs received the rest of the Ottoman Empire, too, comprising 8 million square miles, twice the size of the US.

Your ignorance is your lack of reputational points.

 

[daveman]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

 

[Marc39]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

Where Arab and Muslim savages live, there has never been peace, clueless one.

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

Winston Churchill...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

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[georgephillip]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

 

[Marc39]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

Stupid boy, the Arabs received virtually the entire Ottoman Empire, 8 million square miles, twice the size of the US.

Are you really that stupid? I guess I answered my own question.

 

[docmauser1]

As long as Israel occupies Palestine, there will be no peace.

Let's dismantle the rogue state of Jordan - it occupies more, than 70% of that "Palestine".

 

[daveman]

Yeah well, as long as Israel occupies Palestine there will be no peace.

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

 

[the machine rag]

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

The pro-Zionist proganda version of re-written history.. Time for you to return to Hasbara Central for more of the same.

 

[Marc39]

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

The pro-Zionist proganda version of re-written history.. Time for you to return to Hasbara Central for more of the same.

You can't even spell propaganda, shit-for-brains. Drugs will do that.

 

[georgephillip]

Good tactic: Stick your fingers in your ears and screech "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

daveman:

Between the time the UN appointed committee, UNSCOP, recommended its "two state solution" in late 1947 and the following May when Israel declared its "independence", both Arabs and Jews fought openly for control of strategic positions inside Palestine.

"Several major atrocities were committed by both sides."

"In the months prior to the end of the Mandate the Haganah launched a number of offensives in which they gained control over all the territory allocated by the UN to the Jewish State, creating a large number of refugees and capturing the towns of Tiberias, Haifa, Safad, Beisan and, in effect, Jaffa."

"On May 14, 1948, one day before the end of the British Mandate of Palestine, Israel declared its independence and sovereignty on the portion partitioned by UNSCOP for the Jewish state.

"The next day, the Arab League reiterated officially their opposition to the 'two-state solution' in a letter to the UN.[22]

"That day, the armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invaded the territory partitioned for the Arab state, thus starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

"The nascent Israeli Defense Force repulsed the Arab nations from part of the occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition."

Israel's Arab neighbors "attacked Israel" by assuming defensive positions around territories partitioned for the Arab state as specified in UN resolution 181.

btw, anyone who includes the words "freedom" and "Ronald Reagan" in their signature treads on very thin ice when using the word "hypocrite."

Arab-Israeli conflict - Wiki

 

[Marc39]

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

daveman:

Between the time the UN appointed committee, UNSCOP, recommended its "two state solution" in late 1947 and the following May when Israel declared its "independence", both Arabs and Jews fought openly for control of strategic positions inside Palestine.

"Several major atrocities were committed by both sides."

"In the months prior to the end of the Mandate the Haganah launched a number of offensives in which they gained control over all the territory allocated by the UN to the Jewish State, creating a large number of refugees and capturing the towns of Tiberias, Haifa, Safad, Beisan and, in effect, Jaffa."

"On May 14, 1948, one day before the end of the British Mandate of Palestine, Israel declared its independence and sovereignty on the portion partitioned by UNSCOP for the Jewish state.

"The next day, the Arab League reiterated officially their opposition to the 'two-state solution' in a letter to the UN.[22]

"That day, the armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invaded the territory partitioned for the Arab state, thus starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

"The nascent Israeli Defense Force repulsed the Arab nations from part of the occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition."

Israel's Arab neighbors "attacked Israel" by assuming defensive positions around territories partitioned for the Arab state as specified in UN resolution 181.

btw, anyone who includes the words "freedom" and "Ronald Reagan" in their signature treads on very thin ice when using the word "hypocrite."

Arab-Israeli conflict - Wiki

Arabs: 30 countries, 8 million sq. mi, twice the size of the US, 99.9% of the Middle East.
Israelis: 1 country, 8 thousand sq mi, the size of Vermont, 0.1% of the Middle East

 

[Marc39]

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

daveman:

Between the time the UN appointed committee, UNSCOP, recommended its "two state solution" in late 1947

In 1922, the League of Nations established Palestine as the Jewish homeland, which became international law with unanimous ratification of the Palestine Mandate.

Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country

The Avalon Project : The Palestine Mandate


Your history lesson for the day

 

[daveman]

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

The pro-Zionist proganda version of re-written history.. Time for you to return to Hasbara Central for more of the same.

I think it's safe to assume you're another hypocrite who demands Israel give up what she legally took, but refuses to give your own house back to the natives.

 

[daveman]

Assuming freedom depends more on one person one vote than on UN resolution, can you justify the tactic of telling 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948 they would not be allowed to freely decide the nature of their new state?

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

daveman:

Between the time the UN appointed committee, UNSCOP, recommended its "two state solution" in late 1947 and the following May when Israel declared its "independence", both Arabs and Jews fought openly for control of strategic positions inside Palestine.

"Several major atrocities were committed by both sides."

"In the months prior to the end of the Mandate the Haganah launched a number of offensives in which they gained control over all the territory allocated by the UN to the Jewish State, creating a large number of refugees and capturing the towns of Tiberias, Haifa, Safad, Beisan and, in effect, Jaffa."

"On May 14, 1948, one day before the end of the British Mandate of Palestine, Israel declared its independence and sovereignty on the portion partitioned by UNSCOP for the Jewish state.

"The next day, the Arab League reiterated officially their opposition to the 'two-state solution' in a letter to the UN.[22]

"That day, the armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invaded the territory partitioned for the Arab state, thus starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

"The nascent Israeli Defense Force repulsed the Arab nations from part of the occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition."

Israel's Arab neighbors "attacked Israel" by assuming defensive positions around territories partitioned for the Arab state as specified in UN resolution 181.

btw, anyone who includes the words "freedom" and "Ronald Reagan" in their signature treads on very thin ice when using the word "hypocrite."

Arab-Israeli conflict - Wiki

In summary: You refuse to give your house back to its rightful owners -- and it's the Jews' fault.

 

[daveman]

That was settled when Israel's Arab neighbors attacked Israel and were thrashed. The land is Israel's now.

And if you believe it isn't, you need to give your house to a native American. Or you can continue being a hypocrite. Your call.

daveman:

Between the time the UN appointed committee, UNSCOP, recommended its "two state solution" in late 1947 and the following May when Israel declared its "independence", both Arabs and Jews fought openly for control of strategic positions inside Palestine.

"Several major atrocities were committed by both sides."

"In the months prior to the end of the Mandate the Haganah launched a number of offensives in which they gained control over all the territory allocated by the UN to the Jewish State, creating a large number of refugees and capturing the towns of Tiberias, Haifa, Safad, Beisan and, in effect, Jaffa."

"On May 14, 1948, one day before the end of the British Mandate of Palestine, Israel declared its independence and sovereignty on the portion partitioned by UNSCOP for the Jewish state.

"The next day, the Arab League reiterated officially their opposition to the 'two-state solution' in a letter to the UN.[22]

"That day, the armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq invaded the territory partitioned for the Arab state, thus starting the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

"The nascent Israeli Defense Force repulsed the Arab nations from part of the occupied territories, thus extending its borders beyond the original UNSCOP partition."

Israel's Arab neighbors "attacked Israel" by assuming defensive positions around territories partitioned for the Arab state as specified in UN resolution 181.

btw, anyone who includes the words "freedom" and "Ronald Reagan" in their signature treads on very thin ice when using the word "hypocrite."

Arab-Israeli conflict - Wiki

Arabs: 30 countries, 8 million sq. mi, twice the size of the US, 99.9% of the Middle East.
Israelis: 1 country, 8 thousand sq mi, the size of Vermont, 0.1% of the Middle East