14 year old learns the color of his skin is more important than the content of his character

[Skylar]

So from what I've gathered from reading this thread, according to conservatives if you're brown and your rights and freedoms are violated you had it coming.

If that's what you gathered, then you are an idiot.

Thank God Texas hasn't mandated that teachers be armed. The pants-wetting racist teacher might've blasted this poor kid away and you'd be on here defending that too.

Methinks she may have been watching a tad too much 24.

 

[Skylar]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

 

[bucs90]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard. And these days...a teen with an unknown electronic device with wires and noises coming from it..concealed in a backpack....is reasonable to investigate. And allowable to detain. Terry v. Ohio SCOTUS.

Can you immediately diagnose an item as being explosive or not? No? Neither can cops. Remember....they aren't military and aren't trained in EOD.

 

[ClosedCaption]

After taking a homemade clock to school, Irving MacArthur High student Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention. Police say they may charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

snip*

He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

Detective Dipshit!

I stand with Ahmed



Heres the best part.....They are STILL INVESTIGATING THE CLOCK!!

LMAO Nope a fourteen year old learns he shouldn't bring something that looks like a fucking bomb to school.

The color of his skin has nothing to do with it. If he were white, black or yellow he would have gotten the same treatment.

Try pushing your racist bullshit somewhere else idiot.

Right! Some dumbass thinks it looks like a movie bomb (which isnt a bomb) and viola...ITS A BOMB. Get a load of this circular logic from the article:

Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock, said police spokesman James McLellan. And police have no reason to think it was dangerous. But officers still didn’t believe Ahmed was giving them the whole story.

“We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”

Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman explained:

“It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him into custody?”



Its a clock. What does he mean what was it built for? What are clocks built for?

 

[ClosedCaption]

The teacher thought it was so dangerous that they called the bomb squ....wait. Nope, he thought it was so dangerous he kept it in his desk drawer....

 

[bucs90]

After taking a homemade clock to school, Irving MacArthur High student Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention. Police say they may charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

snip*

He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

Detective Dipshit!

I stand with Ahmed



Heres the best part.....They are STILL INVESTIGATING THE CLOCK!!

LMAO Nope a fourteen year old learns he shouldn't bring something that looks like a fucking bomb to school.

The color of his skin has nothing to do with it. If he were white, black or yellow he would have gotten the same treatment.

Try pushing your racist bullshit somewhere else idiot.

Right! Some dumbass thinks it looks like a movie bomb (which isnt a bomb) and viola...ITS A BOMB. Get a load of this circular logic from the article:

Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock, said police spokesman James McLellan. And police have no reason to think it was dangerous. But officers still didn’t believe Ahmed was giving them the whole story.

“We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”

Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman explained:

“It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him into custody?”



Its a clock. What does he mean what was it built for? What are clocks built for?

What are pressure cookers for??

And...you never answered. If skin color isnt race...how can cops racial profile people by their skin color? YAY!!! RACIAL PROFILING IS OVER!

 

[Skylar]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

 

[bucs90]

The teacher thought it was so dangerous that they called the bomb squ....wait. Nope, he thought it was so dangerous he kept it in his desk drawer....

What bomb squad would he call??? Most PDs don't have a bomb squad. No schools have one.

 

[bucs90]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

Good Lord....read the law. Terry v. Ohio. Reasonable suspicion doesn't mean a crime happened. It means one MIGHT have happened....or one MIGHT result from the activity. Was it a bomb? Was it a partial piece of one? Teachers don't know. Most are moron liberals. So they called cops. Cops released him to parents. No FBI. No CIA. They figured it out. SCOTUS says if people believe those things...cops can detain. Don't like it? Get rid of SCOTUS....and stop pussifying our schools into zero tolerance panic zones.

 

[ClosedCaption]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

But still suspended from school and they are still investigating the clock. Asking leading questions like "what was it built for?" because telling time isnt an acceptable or even viable answer.

 

[bucs90]

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

But still suspended from school and they are still investigating the clock. Asking leading questions like "what was it built for?" because telling time isnt an acceptable or even viable answer.

What if he built a pressure cooker?


And....for the 7th time....if skin color isnt race....how can cops "racial profile" if all they see is skin color? Racial profiling must be another liberal myth.

 

[Skylar]

Its a lovely demonstration that many conservative complains about 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution' is just hypocritical noise. As what they're actually arguing for is white Christian 'rights', 'freedoms' and 'persecution'.

If the kid is brown and Muslim.......they couldn't give a fiddler's fuck.

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

Good Lord....read the law. Terry v. Ohio. Reasonable suspicion doesn't mean a crime happened. It means one MIGHT have happened....or one MIGHT result from the activity.

No, its a *reasonable* suspicion that a crime had occured. And there's no reasonable suspicion that a bomb had been made when there's no explosives. Or detonator. Or bomb.

But that fucking clock apparently scared those cops silly. Imagine their reaction if they run into brown people with a wrist watch!

 

[bodecea]

After taking a homemade clock to school, Irving MacArthur High student Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention. Police say they may charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

snip*

He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

Detective Dipshit!

I stand with Ahmed



Heres the best part.....They are STILL INVESTIGATING THE CLOCK!!

Your story isn't very accurate. The kid didn't take it to his teacher, the alarm wen off on it and the teacher asked to see it. In this day and age it is better to err on the side of safety, Wouldn't you agree?

Actually, he didd both. He took it to one teacher. And then at that teacher's recommendation, kept it in his bag. Where a beep promoted another teacher to look.

And 'erroring on the side of caution' would have been to confiscate the clock. Taking the kid out in cuffs was just good ol' Texas dumbassery.

I'm not saying Texans invented being a dumbass. But no one does it better.

You morons that rail against Texas are simply jealous that our state is way better off than the shit hole you apparently live in.

Well, you are currently leading in crazies believing in a Jade Helm 15 conspiracy with the military and WalMart................oh, and currently leading in HS football player thugs attacking refs.

 

[Skylar]

After taking a homemade clock to school, Irving MacArthur High student Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was taken in handcuffs to juvenile detention. Police say they may charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

snip*

He showed it to his engineering teacher first thing Monday morning and didn’t get quite the reaction he’d hoped for.

“He was like, ‘That’s really nice,’” Ahmed said. “‘I would advise you not to show any other teachers.’”

He kept the clock inside his school bag in English class, but the teacher complained when the alarm beeped in the middle of a lesson. Ahmed brought his invention up to show her afterward.

“She was like, it looks like a bomb,” he said.

“I told her, ‘It doesn’t look like a bomb to me.’”

The teacher kept the clock. When the principal and a police officer pulled Ahmed out of sixth period, he suspected he wouldn’t get it back.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

Ahmed felt suddenly conscious of his brown skin and his name — one of the most common in the Muslim religion. But the police kept him busy with questions.

The bell rang at least twice, he said, while the officers searched his belongings and questioned his intentions. The principal threatened to expel him if he didn’t make a written statement, he said.

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

Detective Dipshit!

I stand with Ahmed



Heres the best part.....They are STILL INVESTIGATING THE CLOCK!!

Your story isn't very accurate. The kid didn't take it to his teacher, the alarm wen off on it and the teacher asked to see it. In this day and age it is better to err on the side of safety, Wouldn't you agree?

Actually, he didd both. He took it to one teacher. And then at that teacher's recommendation, kept it in his bag. Where a beep promoted another teacher to look.

And 'erroring on the side of caution' would have been to confiscate the clock. Taking the kid out in cuffs was just good ol' Texas dumbassery.

I'm not saying Texans invented being a dumbass. But no one does it better.

You morons that rail against Texas are simply jealous that our state is way better off than the shit hole you apparently live in.

Well, you are currently leading in crazies believing in a Jade Helm 15 conspiracy with the military and WalMart................oh, and currently leading in HS football player thugs attacking refs.

And delicious dry rub barbeque. Lets give credit where its deserved. That shit is amazing.

I plan on stuffing my heart full of brisket next time I visit Smitty's.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I'm trying to understand their logic here.

There is a clock.

Clocks can be used in a bomb

Ergo clock is bomb part. Arrest warranted

Sherlock Holmes is on it

 

[bodecea]

Well done Texas. Way to scare and confuse a kid for showing the slightest intellectual curiosity. Nothing says 'threat to society' like a NASA T shirt.

The icing on the cake? Even after the school and police realized they had royally fucked up.......the kid was still suspended for 3 days.

I'm sure from Texas' perspective they were both at fault. As for his part, the kid went to school while brown.

Must be that racist black cop in the pic huh???

There you go again....making it about race. Must have been the FIRST thing you noticed about the cop, eh?

 

[bucs90]

The kid made a poor decision by bring something to school without first asking if it was ok. A zero-tolerance policy in schools is a policy of punishing any infraction of a rule, regardless of accidental mistakes, ignorance, or extenuating circumstances. In schools, common zero-tolerance policies concern possession or use of illicit drugs or weapons.

And the arrest? The police don't have a 'zero tolerance policy'. They actually use the standard of 'probable cause'.

And a *clock* is a violation of the rules? Where is that in the code of conduct? Or is that only enforced if we're talking about a brown kid?

Right. They have a reasonable suspicion standard.

And what 'reasonasble suspicion' is there that the kid had commited any crime by making a clock? Did they even bother to check with his engineering teacher?

Of course not.

And as a demonstration of how the cops realized they fucked up.....they released the kid to his parents without any court hearing.

But hey, its Texas. Being brown is 'reasonable suspicion'.

Good Lord....read the law. Terry v. Ohio. Reasonable suspicion doesn't mean a crime happened. It means one MIGHT have happened....or one MIGHT result from the activity.

No, its a *reasonable* suspicion that a crime had occured. And there's no reasonable suspicion that a bomb had been made when there's no explosives. Or detonator. Or bomb.

But that fucking clock apparently scared those cops silly. Imagine their reaction if they run into brown people with a wrist watch!

You're absolutely 100% wrong. The standard of reasonable suspicion as set by SCOTUS Terry v. Ohio is that the circumstances presented indicate a crime MIGHT have occurred, MIGHT be occurring, or MIGHT be about to occur. And if the teacher thought it might be a suspicious device....the cops have legal authority to detain and investigate. You're 100% wrong on "reasonable suspicion".

 

[bucs90]

I'm trying to understand their logic here.

There is a clock.

Clocks can be used in a bomb

Ergo clock is bomb part. Arrest warranted

Sherlock Holmes is on it

Did they arrest him? What was the charge? Or did they detain him? You know the difference I hope.

 

[bucs90]

Well done Texas. Way to scare and confuse a kid for showing the slightest intellectual curiosity. Nothing says 'threat to society' like a NASA T shirt.

The icing on the cake? Even after the school and police realized they had royally fucked up.......the kid was still suspended for 3 days.

I'm sure from Texas' perspective they were both at fault. As for his part, the kid went to school while brown.

Must be that racist black cop in the pic huh???

There you go again....making it about race. Must have been the FIRST thing you noticed about the cop, eh?

No. How could I? ClosedCaption said skin color is not race. I suppose that could be a white cop in the photo. Or even an Asian. Can't tell his race.

 

[bodecea]

If this kid had been white and sporting a rebel flag t-shirt you idiot liberals would be singing a different tune.

As stupid as you people are, you're also predictable.

As if a kid wearing a rebel flag would know how to TELL time, let alone make a clock............................................................................I kid.....I kid ......................................maybe.