17 trillion

[Quantum Windbag]

Apparently you don't know much about how our government works. CONGRESS is the ones with the authority of the purse strings and keeping the government open, not the President.

But..................keep spreading your low level of information that you pick up on FAUX Nooze.

And by the way.............when the GOP started taking heat for shutting down the government, they started to try to open up pieces of it that would benefit them politically in the House. Fortunately, the Senate saw what they were doing and told them we can't open the pieces that the GOP likes, we have to open up ALL of it.

Blame Cruz and Boehner for that clusterfuck.

Obama picked to beat up the vets just to show them he could.

And he wasn't very pleasant about it either, stop covering for the buffoon.

Actually, I'm a retired U.S. Navy sailor, and pay a lot of attention to the news.

If that were true you would know that the Tea Party didn't block the budgets. Since you don't know that, you are, obviously, lying.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Obama introduced $1 trillion budgets in the first three years of his term, the fourth was roughly $750 billion, then for 2014, he introduced a $3.8 trillion budget. So this is a direct reflection of his policy viewpoints. Stop trying to shelter him.

Like I said, it's Congress and the Senate who control the purse strings, not the President. Obama can suggest a budget, but it's got to pass the House and the Senate to become reality.

And..............the reason we don't have a budget but are instead operating on continuing resolutions is because the tea baggers in the House keep blocking it.

You might benefit from a civics class refresher.

You might benefit by being slapped upside the head.

Unless you think that Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader is a Tea Party member of the House, you are flat out wrong about who blocked the budgets.

Senate Democratic leaders on Friday said they do not intend to bring a fiscal 2013 budget up for a floor vote.
"We do not need to bring a budget to the floor this year — it's done, we don't need to do it," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters on Friday.
Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) argued that the debt-limit agreement in August directs spending for the next year and said Senate Appropriations Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) has already asked the heads of the subcommittees to write their appropriations bills for fiscal 2013.

Reid: This year's budget is done - The Hill's On The Money

You DO realize that the start of the fiscal year is October 1st, right?

You ALSO realize that we were in the throes of a government shutdown when FY 2014 started as well?

And.................sorry to tell you, but it was the tea baggers who got the GOP to follow them who shut down the government.

I mean.....................why the fuck was Ted Cruz talking to the people of the House when he's in the Senate? Because he was pushing his own political agenda, which resulted in the government being shut down, as well as resulted in a lot of donations from his base.

The only reason Cruz shut down the government is because he's looking for donations for his 2016 bid for the presidency. Only problem is...............he's gonna lose and lose hard, because people will remember what he'd done, as well as the Dems are going to remember the video clips showing him doing so.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Two unfunded wars

tax cuts costing trillions passed using reconciliation

drugs for votes bill passed using reconciliation

tens of thousands of Americans maimed in Iraq

Millions of jobs shipped off to China from 2001 to 2008

tens of thousands of factories closed from 2001 to 2008

funny, when right wingers mention the debt, they never mention how it was created. Odd that.

Yet they have the nerve to gut everything that benefits the American people. Outside of course welfare that really doesn't benefit anyone.

Funny how they go after infrastructure, science, tech and innovation! They work for fat cats that want to see people suffer.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Two unfunded wars

tax cuts costing trillions passed using reconciliation

drugs for votes bill passed using reconciliation

tens of thousands of Americans maimed in Iraq

Millions of jobs shipped off to China from 2001 to 2008

tens of thousands of factories closed from 2001 to 2008

funny, when right wingers mention the debt, they never mention how it was created. Odd that.

Yet they have the nerve to gut everything that benefits the American people. Outside of course welfare that really doesn't benefit anyone.

Funny how they go after infrastructure, science, tech and innovation! They work for fat cats that want to see people suffer.

I kinda think it's stupid to vote against infrastructure, especially when we've had bridges break and kill people.

Eisenhower (who built the system in the first place) would be proud.

Wanna know where the "shovel ready" jobs are? It's fixing our roads and bridges, but the GOP will never vote for it, because their corporate overlords are more interested in keeping money for themselves, rather than getting taxed their fair share to keep them running.

Trouble is...................eventually.................if the roads keep crumbling.......................they will have no way of shipping their goods and they may go broke.

 

[The Rabbi]

Two unfunded wars

tax cuts costing trillions passed using reconciliation

drugs for votes bill passed using reconciliation

tens of thousands of Americans maimed in Iraq

Millions of jobs shipped off to China from 2001 to 2008

tens of thousands of factories closed from 2001 to 2008

funny, when right wingers mention the debt, they never mention how it was created. Odd that.

Yet they have the nerve to gut everything that benefits the American people. Outside of course welfare that really doesn't benefit anyone.

Funny how they go after infrastructure, science, tech and innovation! They work for fat cats that want to see people suffer.

Please show where teh GOP has "gone after" your holy trinity. They shouldn't be funding those things, of course. That's the job of states and private enterprise. But beat on, Johnny One-Note.

 

[Mac1958]

 

[ScienceRocks]

We'd have to end welfare and trim our military to around 300 billion.

 

[Mac1958]

We'd have to end welfare and trim our military to around 300 billion.

Oh, truth be told, I'd guess it's already too late.

.

 

[Sallow]

We'd have to end welfare and trim our military to around 300 billion.

Oh, truth be told, I'd guess it's already too late.

.

Of course it's not "too late".

Clinton proved that out.

And deficit has been going down.

The solution really is simple. Carefully cut spending..and increase revenue.

Stop doing stupid things. This shutdown cost ALOT of money. And it was wasted.

 

[Sallow]

We'd have to end welfare and trim our military to around 300 billion.

We don't need to cut welfare, we need to make it smarter.

And I agree with you on the military.

 

[rdean]

Two unfunded wars

tax cuts costing trillions passed using reconciliation

drugs for votes bill passed using reconciliation

tens of thousands of Americans maimed in Iraq

Millions of jobs shipped off to China from 2001 to 2008

tens of thousands of factories closed from 2001 to 2008

funny, when right wingers mention the debt, they never mention how it was created. Odd that.

Fuck you, you lying piece of shit.

First off those "unfunded wars" WERE funded through spending resolutions that couldn't have passed without your beloved Democrats.
Spending resolutions that were, by the way, treated as "hostage fodder" for Dems other pet projects.
The wars were not funded. Besides, since Republicans were able to use "reconciliation" three times under Bush, Democrats were basically powerless. (Do you know what Republicans used reconciliation on?)


Your evil tax cuts were extended by Obama
We call that "blackmail"
Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

WTF is "drugs for votes"? Sounds like an ACORN program
Think about it. Republicans used reconciliation to pass it.

More Americans killed in Afghanistan in 5 years under Obama than 7 years under Bush
Afghanistan is where the attack on 9/11 originated. Did that have to be explained?

TRILLIONS of dollars in new debt
Happens when handed a pile of shit.




But all that conveniently slips through your hole-filled skull

I like this. Teaching someone stupid. Hopefully, when they finally learn something "real", they will benefit from it.

 

[freedombecki]

Well, 24 BILLION of that debt increase was due to the GOP shutting down the government.

24 BILLION dollars flushed down the toilet for some GOP idiots to try to make a point about Obamacare (which they didn't).

What was the reason the Republicans shut down the government?

You've been misinformed. Obama ordered those departments closed, and not the Republicans. He targeted veterans and other areas of Republican championing. He did nothing about closing down what reports were issued showing duplication and waste. Absolutely nothing.

Apparently you don't know much about how our government works. CONGRESS is the ones with the authority of the purse strings and keeping the government open, not the President.

But..................keep spreading your low level of information that you pick up on FAUX Nooze.

And by the way.............when the GOP started taking heat for shutting down the government, they started to try to open up pieces of it that would benefit them politically in the House. Fortunately, the Senate saw what they were doing and told them we can't open the pieces that the GOP likes, we have to open up ALL of it.

Blame Cruz and Boehner for that clusterfuck.

No.

The Demander in Chief is totally at fault for screwing America's veterans. He hates their guts, and it shows. He's using you like a dirty rag, and you're helping.

 

[rdean]

You've been misinformed. Obama ordered those departments closed, and not the Republicans. He targeted veterans and other areas of Republican championing. He did nothing about closing down what reports were issued showing duplication and waste. Absolutely nothing.

Apparently you don't know much about how our government works. CONGRESS is the ones with the authority of the purse strings and keeping the government open, not the President.

But..................keep spreading your low level of information that you pick up on FAUX Nooze.

And by the way.............when the GOP started taking heat for shutting down the government, they started to try to open up pieces of it that would benefit them politically in the House. Fortunately, the Senate saw what they were doing and told them we can't open the pieces that the GOP likes, we have to open up ALL of it.

Blame Cruz and Boehner for that clusterfuck.

No.

The Demander in Chief is totally at fault for screwing America's veterans. He hates their guts, and it shows. He's using you like a dirty rag, and you're helping.

Why would you say that? A simple Google search will tell you exactly who is trying to cut veterans benefits and cut veterans jobs bills. Using Google is simple. Even for a "simpleton". Or maybe it's beyond your expertise. Let me know and I will send instructions.

gop blocks veterans jobs bill

Check this one out. It's from "Military dot com".

GOP Senators Block Veterans Jobs Bill - Military

 

[TemplarKormac]

Apparently you don't know much about how our government works. CONGRESS is the ones with the authority of the purse strings and keeping the government open, not the President.

But..................keep spreading your low level of information that you pick up on FAUX Nooze.

And by the way.............when the GOP started taking heat for shutting down the government, they started to try to open up pieces of it that would benefit them politically in the House. Fortunately, the Senate saw what they were doing and told them we can't open the pieces that the GOP likes, we have to open up ALL of it.

Blame Cruz and Boehner for that clusterfuck.

No.

The Demander in Chief is totally at fault for screwing America's veterans. He hates their guts, and it shows. He's using you like a dirty rag, and you're helping.

Why would you say that? A simple Google search will tell you exactly who is trying to cut veterans benefits and cut veterans jobs bills. Using Google is simple. Even for a "simpleton". Or maybe it's beyond your expertise. Let me know and I will send instructions.

gop blocks veterans jobs bill

Check this one out. It's from "Military dot com".

GOP Senators Block Veterans Jobs Bill | Military.com

Perhaps you should pay attention more, you simpleton.

Harry Reid blocks funding for veterans programs, national parks | WashingtonExaminer.com

 

[hortysir]

We'd have to end welfare and trim our military to around 300 billion.

Because there are no other bloated bureaucracies we could eliminate

 

[blackhawk]

Who thinks we will hit 20 trillion by 2016?

 

[hortysir]

Two unfunded wars

tax cuts costing trillions passed using reconciliation

drugs for votes bill passed using reconciliation

tens of thousands of Americans maimed in Iraq

Millions of jobs shipped off to China from 2001 to 2008

tens of thousands of factories closed from 2001 to 2008

funny, when right wingers mention the debt, they never mention how it was created. Odd that.

Fuck you, you lying piece of shit.

First off those "unfunded wars" WERE funded through spending resolutions that couldn't have passed without your beloved Democrats.
Spending resolutions that were, by the way, treated as "hostage fodder" for Dems other pet projects.
The wars were not funded. Besides, since Republicans were able to use "reconciliation" three times under Bush, Democrats were basically powerless. (Do you know what Republicans used reconciliation on?)


Your evil tax cuts were extended by Obama
We call that "blackmail"
Unemployment benefits: not until Bush tax cuts pass, Senate GOP says - CSMonitor.com

WTF is "drugs for votes"? Sounds like an ACORN program
Think about it. Republicans used reconciliation to pass it.

More Americans killed in Afghanistan in 5 years under Obama than 7 years under Bush
Afghanistan is where the attack on 9/11 originated. Did that have to be explained?

TRILLIONS of dollars in new debt
Happens when handed a pile of shit.




But all that conveniently slips through your hole-filled skull

I like this. Teaching someone stupid. Hopefully, when they finally learn something "real", they will benefit from it.

yes, you thick-headed fucking moron.
The wars WERE funded.
Maybe you'd like this little chart:

So we were against extending UEC for 2 fucking years? And you think that's a bad thing?
How many more months are you slated to draw a check?


WTF does 9/11 have to do with how many Americans Obama (who said he'd get out of Afghan) continue to let stay there and die?

Good looking backwards on all this new debt, but Obama completely OWNS it.
You might get away with your BUSH-whacking for one term but not a full 8 YEARS of blame.

 

[hortysir]

Who thinks we will hit 20 trillion by 2016?

But it will still be Bush's fault

 

[GHook93]

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2012

When Bush took office the national debt was at $5.6T. So all the other Presidents in history got the debt to that limit. His 8 yr Presidency raised it $9T, so that was a $3.4T raise. By Sept of this year it's at $17T! That is raise of $8T! That is nearly doing as much as every other President combined!

It is estimated by the time he leaves office in 2016 the debt will be at $20T!!! This is scary stuff!

 

[hortysir]