17 yo boy shot by police because he wasn't resisting arrest.

He won't be...that sort of thing does not happen to sociopaths.

Last time Bucs and I got into it was in a thread where I related being at the shooting range and watching a cop stand a foot away from his target and quick draw a Glock and empty the mag into the target.

I pointed out that practicing that close is clearly practicing murder, the cop was getting ready to have a person pulled over, get in their face, and gun them down.

The fact that cops train, not to defend themselves, but to murder, is a serious problem. Killing a kid for talking back is the result of this attitude of cops and the training of them to want to kill members of the public.
 
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Ah, so you're nothing but a troll.

You are lying just to get a reaction.

So what classes are you taking now that you're in Jr. High, Saintmorontheliar?
 
We probably got away with more. We got called out to a domestic one day, a relative of mine who beat his girlfriend. I told the other officers to wait out front. I took him out to the back yard and slapped him so hard his cheeks bled inside and out. No arrest, no police report, and you better believe it never happened again. That's how a lot of things were handled.

And just so you know, you've convinced me you actually have been in law enforcement. It took me a while to overcome my doubts.

Hell, I never said there wasn't a time when someone didn't deserve a good rap up side the head...or more. Sometimes it might do a lot more good than putting the dipshit in the system....again...you know what I mean?

My problem is with this tendency for way too many cops to use it when it's not called for...because they feel "threatened". Fuck, I felt threatened every second of every day...on or off the job. If I beat the shit out of...or worse shot...every dipshit that ever gave me lip or resisted being cuffed, I'd be no fucking better than the bully I DID beat the shit out of once for beating his dog and his retarded kid.

That is what this thread is about...a cop and a fucking kid...17 years old, granted, effectively an adult as far as threat goes...but still an UNARMED kid. If I had been that cop, I would have fucking resigned right then and there...and probably would have considered putting a gun in my fucking mouth. I had a partner who killed a 16 year old...was totally justified, the kid had a gun and had already taken a couple of shots at us. He was ready to put that gun in his mouth and we pretty much had to baby sit him for months before he seemed like he was coming out of it. He never did come back on the street...as he was waiting out the investigation and all the administrative bullshit, he fanageled a transfer to the property room...where he stayed until he retired. He would have quit, but had a family to support and was scared to death of having to try to make as good a living in another job. So he became a what we used to call a ROAD - retired on active duty.

But beyond my emotional bullshit, my biggest concern is for the profession itself. Cops in general have never been popular, but the support of the community...the good folks in the community, is fucking something we simply cannot do the job without. These days, that support is dwindling among people where it shouldn't be. Good, decent people are becoming more afraid of the police than they are of the creeps...and in way too many cases for good reason. I am a great example of that...I should be the biggest cheerleader for police in the world, right? But being away from the job with no badge and no ID (the retired badge was a fucking joke,,,,my little brother retired and flashes his all the time, just like every cops relative and their brother flashes their son/.wife badges and courtesy cards...I hate that shit) gave me a rude awakening. A Highway Patrolman (we all love them assholes, right?) pulled me over on the interstate for no apparent reason that I could see. First he tried to tell me that I had crossed the line without signalling...so of course I said "bullshit, why did you really pull me over". Right away his hand goes to his holster, so I try to ease his mind "dude, I used to be a cop, you ain't gotta bullshit me". Now usually from this point the conversation turns, we bullshit a bit and I am on my way (not that I get pulled over that often, but hey, I drive fast). But not with this one...he tells me that he doesn't "fucking" believe me and that I fit the profile of a druggie running drugs. WTF, I am in an old pickup with a wooden flatbed and a headache rack? In hindsight, maybe I fit the profile of one of the hillbillie meth heads that are pretty rampant in southern Ohio, but I was laughing too hard and not thinking. Well the laughing really pissed him off and he decided I was impaired and needed to do the drunk walk. So I say, ok fine, we can do this...and of course I have no problem with it. But by the time I am done, the K9 unit has pulled up and they ask me if they can run the dog around my truck. OK fine, knock yourselves out...and guess what, they try to tell me that the dog alerted on the toolbox I have mounted on the flatbed. So now I am fucking pissed...I say fine, let me unlock the goddamned toolbox for you and get out and do so. The proceed to throw all my shit out and of course don't find anything. (Full disclosure: I do smoke weed now and then....but at home...only a moron carts it around with them...its better than prozac or other shit the docs have always tried to hook me on). So I ask them the old question that all the smart asses say...but not as nice "I am I fucking free to go now?" (I think you've already gotten a taste of my sunshine personality) Nooo...the boy wonder decides he needs to write me a ticket for not having a light on my rear plate....which is mounted up on the headache rack. I wanted to beat the shit out of both of those assholes...but kept my cool and called them everything but white men as I threw all my shit back into the toolbox and went my merry way. I got a good taste of what the common citizen has to fucking go through these days, and I tasted like shit. For a long time I wrote it off to just one encounter with an asshole...but in the years since it seems to be way too fucking common. How the fuck do we stand a chance of surviving when the shit hits the fan out there...and you know it's gonna come...if the public..the good folks, not the mutts...consider us the enemy?

Fuck I am rambling again...I don't even remember the point I wanted to make. I best get out of here before wife number 3 dumps my ass. Oh now I remember...imagine if I had lost my cool and started calling these guys the assholes they were out loud? These days I would probably be doing the funky chicken with darts playing me like a spastic puppet...or worse, considering I was armed (dumbasses didn't even know it either, I coulda popped both of them). I felt threatened, I was PISSED, but my training is what helped me to keep my cool and not escalate the situation for no good reason. Their training...whether it be formal or ojt, should have kept them from being assholes for no good reason.

That same training should have resulted with the kid in this story being alive...battered...but alive.

Lord knows that we all want to get home alive...but as police officers we accept that sometimes we have to take a bit more risk to ensure EVERYONE goes home alive. IMO, if you can't accept that risk, you should find another career.

I gotta git. I'll catch up with you assholes tomorrow, if I ain't lookin for a place to live. ;)

Oh, and as for that other dipshit, the alleged atlanta copper who thinks he might have to "embarrass me" because he can't fucking read....knock yourself out, you cracker asshole.
Oh. So now you're black!

He also claims he was a police commissioner. Which is a chief. He was never...ever...ever....a police officer...much less a damn CHIEF.

I'm nursing another theory. I think he was around law enforcement because he certainly knows the lingo, but he probably washed out. Good cops who do their job well have a positive outlook on police work. Bad cops who get fired sound EXACTLY like this guy. Police commissioner? Hell no!

Keep reaching for straws, dipshit. If you want to nurse on something, nurse on my pecker.


Keep your homosexual fantasies to yourself there, fellow.

I think you were a real cop, but you're talking to two other former cops too and having talked to many cops, it isn't easy to figure out that you're bitter because you washed out, got fired for corruption, or otherwise had your police career run the shoals. I got out two after less than two years. I met the woman who I'm married to today and moved and, as a point of irony, the qualifications to be a Res cop are lower, so I couldn't get police work elsewhere without getting a BA and police academy training. But I have a favorable view of law enforcement because I did my job to the best of my ability and I left an agency that would gladly rehire me today if I ever got the itch to do more cop work.

When you watch COPS episodes, do you see how most of these cops start off by saying how much they love the job? That wasn't you. Your post indicates you hated being a cop and when you were drummed out, you had everyone to blame but yourself. Bitter ex cop, you're nothing more than that.
 
fucking read what I wrote, rather than what you wish I wrote, asshole.

I did. You said "they don't have academies everywhere".

Then you conceded that...yes...all states have academies.

Which is it?

I'm telling you...just let this one go. I'm offering you a pass.

and I am telling you, take your silly word games and go fuck yourself, asshole.
Now if you feel froggy, jump.
 
Let me spell it out for you. We've been members of USMB about the same length of time, but I have 10 times more activity here than you do. That's means I've had plenty of opportunity to hear bucs reveal in detail his duties as a cop. Having once been a cop myself, it rings true. You on the other hand come off as a pretender. The internet allows you to lie about who you are, but you won't fool those in the field of police work. Again, your posts demonstrate a complete ignorance about police procedure, the difficulties of the job, and the often felt fear that the cop might not make it home alive some days because of the danger he faces. Your claims ring hollow and I think you're full of shit.

USMB makes you know all that? :lol:

Go back to your barbie dolls, fuckstick, I got pimples on my ass that make more sense than you do. :lol:
Once been a cop yourself? Do tell, I am sure we'd all like to hear the details of how you became an auxiliary cop and they let you go undercover to be a narc, busting your old high school buddies, but then even though you finally passed the civil service test on your 5th try, affirmative action booted you off the hire list so you had to become a beautician.

Nothing so fancy. Blackfeet Tribal Law Enforcement in Montana. Drunks, meth manufacture and distribution, and other forms of disorderly conduct. And I quit and moved the fuck out of Browning after less than 2 years. That's it. Want more details? The radio we carried was heavier than our gun, we carried pepper spray, not stun guns, a dash cam was Officer Cameron making a dash to get to make pre-shift on time, and we did crazy shit that would make Super Troopers blush.

Now, since you are the dipshit who thinks all "nuts and bolts police work" is the same...are you really going to try to say that you deal with the same daily shit that I did in Cleveland or that your idol allegedly does in Atlanta?

Having been a commissioner in New Mexico, I can see the difference between what my people did there and what I had to do in Cleveland like night and day. Perhaps if you did the job in a metro area and had actual experience to compare to you wouldn't have made an ass of yourself.

As far as dealing with the Blackfeet, I feel for ya. I never had to do the job on a reservation, but I have friends and relatives near Shiprock and know all too well the pain in the ass they get to be when drinking...and thank god I haven't been back there since Meth started becoming even more prevalent than booze.

We probably got away with more. We got called out to a domestic one day, a relative of mine who beat his girlfriend. I told the other officers to wait out front. I took him out to the back yard and slapped him so hard his cheeks bled inside and out. No arrest, no police report, and you better believe it never happened again. That's how a lot of things were handled.

And just so you know, you've convinced me you actually have been in law enforcement. It took me a while to overcome my doubts.
That sounds like what I did to the boyfriend a distant relative of mine.
We were called to a domestic. The pregnant relative had apparently been punched by the boyfriend and she called 911.
He was still inside when we pulled up. His girlfriend was waiting for us on the sidewalk. I told my partner to stay with the girlfriend.
I went in and beat the living shit out of the guy. I dragged him through the apartment by his ponytail until I had most of it in my hand. I shoved it in his bleeding mouth and told him I'd find him and shoot him if he didn't pack up and leave. which he did.
The last I heard he was living across the country with another woman he had impregnated.
The PR listed the call as a 'warning'.
That was decades ago. No body cams. No witnesses. No problem.
This was a very common way to treat bastards. Especially women beaters and child abusers.
Back then when a LEO made a traffic stop all you heard was "Yes sir. No sir. Right away sir. Thank you sir".

Another fucking moron who is either a Walter Mitty living vicariously through da intrawebz, or actually was more of a thug than a cop.

If you dipshits want to be thugs, great...but don't pretend to be cops, because badges or not, you are just as much of a thug as the other dipshits without badges.

But hey, thanks for proving that this whole us vs them mentality has indeed gotten out of control. Have fucking fun when the shit hits the fan and you find out nobody is backing your dumb asses anymore. It's dipshits like you thatr prove the liberal assholes bullshit have some basis in fact...and that fucking pisses me off.
 
Hell, I never said there wasn't a time when someone didn't deserve a good rap up side the head...or more. Sometimes it might do a lot more good than putting the dipshit in the system....again...you know what I mean?

My problem is with this tendency for way too many cops to use it when it's not called for...because they feel "threatened". Fuck, I felt threatened every second of every day...on or off the job. If I beat the shit out of...or worse shot...every dipshit that ever gave me lip or resisted being cuffed, I'd be no fucking better than the bully I DID beat the shit out of once for beating his dog and his retarded kid.

That is what this thread is about...a cop and a fucking kid...17 years old, granted, effectively an adult as far as threat goes...but still an UNARMED kid. If I had been that cop, I would have fucking resigned right then and there...and probably would have considered putting a gun in my fucking mouth. I had a partner who killed a 16 year old...was totally justified, the kid had a gun and had already taken a couple of shots at us. He was ready to put that gun in his mouth and we pretty much had to baby sit him for months before he seemed like he was coming out of it. He never did come back on the street...as he was waiting out the investigation and all the administrative bullshit, he fanageled a transfer to the property room...where he stayed until he retired. He would have quit, but had a family to support and was scared to death of having to try to make as good a living in another job. So he became a what we used to call a ROAD - retired on active duty.

But beyond my emotional bullshit, my biggest concern is for the profession itself. Cops in general have never been popular, but the support of the community...the good folks in the community, is fucking something we simply cannot do the job without. These days, that support is dwindling among people where it shouldn't be. Good, decent people are becoming more afraid of the police than they are of the creeps...and in way too many cases for good reason. I am a great example of that...I should be the biggest cheerleader for police in the world, right? But being away from the job with no badge and no ID (the retired badge was a fucking joke,,,,my little brother retired and flashes his all the time, just like every cops relative and their brother flashes their son/.wife badges and courtesy cards...I hate that shit) gave me a rude awakening. A Highway Patrolman (we all love them assholes, right?) pulled me over on the interstate for no apparent reason that I could see. First he tried to tell me that I had crossed the line without signalling...so of course I said "bullshit, why did you really pull me over". Right away his hand goes to his holster, so I try to ease his mind "dude, I used to be a cop, you ain't gotta bullshit me". Now usually from this point the conversation turns, we bullshit a bit and I am on my way (not that I get pulled over that often, but hey, I drive fast). But not with this one...he tells me that he doesn't "fucking" believe me and that I fit the profile of a druggie running drugs. WTF, I am in an old pickup with a wooden flatbed and a headache rack? In hindsight, maybe I fit the profile of one of the hillbillie meth heads that are pretty rampant in southern Ohio, but I was laughing too hard and not thinking. Well the laughing really pissed him off and he decided I was impaired and needed to do the drunk walk. So I say, ok fine, we can do this...and of course I have no problem with it. But by the time I am done, the K9 unit has pulled up and they ask me if they can run the dog around my truck. OK fine, knock yourselves out...and guess what, they try to tell me that the dog alerted on the toolbox I have mounted on the flatbed. So now I am fucking pissed...I say fine, let me unlock the goddamned toolbox for you and get out and do so. The proceed to throw all my shit out and of course don't find anything. (Full disclosure: I do smoke weed now and then....but at home...only a moron carts it around with them...its better than prozac or other shit the docs have always tried to hook me on). So I ask them the old question that all the smart asses say...but not as nice "I am I fucking free to go now?" (I think you've already gotten a taste of my sunshine personality) Nooo...the boy wonder decides he needs to write me a ticket for not having a light on my rear plate....which is mounted up on the headache rack. I wanted to beat the shit out of both of those assholes...but kept my cool and called them everything but white men as I threw all my shit back into the toolbox and went my merry way. I got a good taste of what the common citizen has to fucking go through these days, and I tasted like shit. For a long time I wrote it off to just one encounter with an asshole...but in the years since it seems to be way too fucking common. How the fuck do we stand a chance of surviving when the shit hits the fan out there...and you know it's gonna come...if the public..the good folks, not the mutts...consider us the enemy?

Fuck I am rambling again...I don't even remember the point I wanted to make. I best get out of here before wife number 3 dumps my ass. Oh now I remember...imagine if I had lost my cool and started calling these guys the assholes they were out loud? These days I would probably be doing the funky chicken with darts playing me like a spastic puppet...or worse, considering I was armed (dumbasses didn't even know it either, I coulda popped both of them). I felt threatened, I was PISSED, but my training is what helped me to keep my cool and not escalate the situation for no good reason. Their training...whether it be formal or ojt, should have kept them from being assholes for no good reason.

That same training should have resulted with the kid in this story being alive...battered...but alive.

Lord knows that we all want to get home alive...but as police officers we accept that sometimes we have to take a bit more risk to ensure EVERYONE goes home alive. IMO, if you can't accept that risk, you should find another career.

I gotta git. I'll catch up with you assholes tomorrow, if I ain't lookin for a place to live. ;)

Oh, and as for that other dipshit, the alleged atlanta copper who thinks he might have to "embarrass me" because he can't fucking read....knock yourself out, you cracker asshole.
Oh. So now you're black!

He also claims he was a police commissioner. Which is a chief. He was never...ever...ever....a police officer...much less a damn CHIEF.

I'm nursing another theory. I think he was around law enforcement because he certainly knows the lingo, but he probably washed out. Good cops who do their job well have a positive outlook on police work. Bad cops who get fired sound EXACTLY like this guy. Police commissioner? Hell no!

Keep reaching for straws, dipshit. If you want to nurse on something, nurse on my pecker.


Keep your homosexual fantasies to yourself there, fellow.

I think you were a real cop, but you're talking to two other former cops too and having talked to many cops, it isn't easy to figure out that you're bitter because you washed out, got fired for corruption, or otherwise had your police career run the shoals. I got out two after less than two years. I met the woman who I'm married to today and moved and, as a point of irony, the qualifications to be a Res cop are lower, so I couldn't get police work elsewhere without getting a BA and police academy training. But I have a favorable view of law enforcement because I did my job to the best of my ability and I left an agency that would gladly rehire me today if I ever got the itch to do more cop work.

When you watch COPS episodes, do you see how most of these cops start off by saying how much they love the job? That wasn't you. Your post indicates you hated being a cop and when you were drummed out, you had everyone to blame but yourself. Bitter ex cop, you're nothing more than that.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, chief....but hey, if you think two years of tending to drunks and meth-heads in podunk Montana makes you an authority on cops...you are an even bigger moron than I first suspected. You and your thug buddies ain't pimples on a good cop's ass.
 
fucking read what I wrote, rather than what you wish I wrote, asshole.

I did. You said "they don't have academies everywhere".

Then you conceded that...yes...all states have academies.

Which is it?

I'm telling you...just let this one go. I'm offering you a pass.

and I am telling you, take your silly word games and go fuck yourself, asshole.
Now if you feel froggy, jump.

So bitter. So sad.
 
Every police department in the country has some form of HR/PRB.
LEO's who love their work are 100% 'good cops.
You can not 'hate' your job any job and be effective at it.
LEO's learn very quickly if the job is for them. Their fellow officers can spot a LEO who is not performing well under the stress every LEO has to deal with. It doesn't take the HR department long to learn how a new officer is coping.
It's the duty of every LEO to inform their commander of ANYTHING! they see that is not correct police policy in another LEO's behavior. You ride with someone who's fucking up YOU are going to be taken down with the asshole! That means DEEP SHIT if you plan on advancing in your LEO career.
Hundreds of recent hires a day across the country are gently quietly removed from the force.
There literally is no bigger job ending, any job that is, lifetime fucking nightmare than having a negative notation on the LEO's file.
99.99999% of LEO's I have ever met, and I have met hundreds, are straight, descent men and women.
The other percent were about to have a quite conversation with the HR department and basically told "if we have to push you then you are pretty much fucked if you ever think you'll get a positive recommendation from us. If you 'jump' now there will be a neutral to positive note on your employment file when Home Depot calls to ask why you left LE."
100% of the time the officer will choose the latter.
This bullshit that there are a lot of 'rotten murdering LEO's out there is the stuff of movies and LIB fantasies and lifelong losers who are repeatedly getting into trouble with the Justice System.
Like our resident 'cop-hater'.
The only reason he "knows the lingo" is b/c he's spent so much time on the wrong side of law enforcement.
 
take it u
Maybe you should take down all the mirrors in your trailer?
You mean my 5 bedroom 3 bath 2500 SF home? Nah...I like them.
That's your dream home not your actual home ..
Come for a visit...sure the dog house is free :)
Good. Now all you have left to do is to pick a fight with the police. God speed to you, young fella.
Good to see you concede finally. Can't murder someone for videotaping you which is EXACTLY what happened here oh along with an illegal stop.
False no murder took place .
For it to be murder the cop had to plan on killing , there is no evidence of that.
The stop was not illegal either.
Yes the stop was illegal. SEVERAL media outlets,experts etc have said it was. Flashing your lights is protected speech just ask the SC. He murdered that child. Plain and simple.
My wife is born and bred WHITE woman. I wouldn't lower myself to marry a nonwhite. Oh and son I have an FBI file when you are associated with a NSM member that ran for president THEY know who you are believe me.
If I send your twenty bucks will you go out and start a fight with a cop.........please? Have your stupid piece of shit bitch wife 'record' what happens......please.
"My wife is born and bred White woman".
There you go folks. You seriously can't make this shit up.
Sure can't make it up she is white through and through I bet you are jealous. Oh and 20$ eh that will give us half a tank so sure send it. :)
Apparently when pushed, Nazi boy admits he didn't try to film the cop he dealt with, just kept the dash cam rolling. Apparently he understands that waiving a camera in a cops face when he's giving instructions to be followed can get him killed and he's a pussy, unlike the kid in the OP. He talks a big game, but admitted he can't back it up.
Filming is filming sparky. Entire point and goal is to have MY point of view caught on tape vs the lying cops version on record after he murders me. :)
Protected speech?
To be speech there has to be words .
Wrong again , to be murder like I said before
There has to be intent , there was none .
If it goes to trial the charge will be manslaughter.
What media outlets links?
Your racist bias opinion doesn't cut it.
take it up with SC ruling not me kid. Murder stands.unarmed child and he shot him 7 times for no reason other than he had a badge and kid didnt.
kid? lol...
the rest is bullshit .
where are the links ?
 
Every police department in the country has some form of HR/PRB.
LEO's who love their work are 100% 'good cops.
You can not 'hate' your job any job and be effective at it.
LEO's learn very quickly if the job is for them. Their fellow officers can spot a LEO who is not performing well under the stress every LEO has to deal with. It doesn't take the HR department long to learn how a new officer is coping.
It's the duty of every LEO to inform their commander of ANYTHING! they see that is not correct police policy in another LEO's behavior. You ride with someone who's fucking up YOU are going to be taken down with the asshole! That means DEEP SHIT if you plan on advancing in your LEO career.
Hundreds of recent hires a day across the country are gently quietly removed from the force.
There literally is no bigger job ending, any job that is, lifetime fucking nightmare than having a negative notation on the LEO's file.
99.99999% of LEO's I have ever met, and I have met hundreds, are straight, descent men and women.
The other percent were about to have a quite conversation with the HR department and basically told "if we have to push you then you are pretty much fucked if you ever think you'll get a positive recommendation from us. If you 'jump' now there will be a neutral to positive note on your employment file when Home Depot calls to ask why you left LE."
100% of the time the officer will choose the latter.
This bullshit that there are a lot of 'rotten murdering LEO's out there is the stuff of movies and LIB fantasies and lifelong losers who are repeatedly getting into trouble with the Justice System.
Like our resident 'cop-hater'.
The only reason he "knows the lingo" is b/c he's spent so much time on the wrong side of law enforcement.
Dan Daly sounds like a failed cop, exhibiting all the symptoms I've seen from those who couldn't hack it, washed out of police work and blames EVERYONE but themselves. You're right that thousands of cops just don't make the cut in the long term and I think this guy is just one of them.
 
Every police department in the country has some form of HR/PRB.
LEO's who love their work are 100% 'good cops.
You can not 'hate' your job any job and be effective at it.
LEO's learn very quickly if the job is for them. Their fellow officers can spot a LEO who is not performing well under the stress every LEO has to deal with. It doesn't take the HR department long to learn how a new officer is coping.
It's the duty of every LEO to inform their commander of ANYTHING! they see that is not correct police policy in another LEO's behavior. You ride with someone who's fucking up YOU are going to be taken down with the asshole! That means DEEP SHIT if you plan on advancing in your LEO career.
Hundreds of recent hires a day across the country are gently quietly removed from the force.
There literally is no bigger job ending, any job that is, lifetime fucking nightmare than having a negative notation on the LEO's file.
99.99999% of LEO's I have ever met, and I have met hundreds, are straight, descent men and women.
The other percent were about to have a quite conversation with the HR department and basically told "if we have to push you then you are pretty much fucked if you ever think you'll get a positive recommendation from us. If you 'jump' now there will be a neutral to positive note on your employment file when Home Depot calls to ask why you left LE."
100% of the time the officer will choose the latter.
This bullshit that there are a lot of 'rotten murdering LEO's out there is the stuff of movies and LIB fantasies and lifelong losers who are repeatedly getting into trouble with the Justice System.
Like our resident 'cop-hater'.
The only reason he "knows the lingo" is b/c he's spent so much time on the wrong side of law enforcement.
Dan Daly sounds like a failed cop, exhibiting all the symptoms I've seen from those who couldn't hack it, washed out of police work and blames EVERYONE but themselves. You're right that thousands of cops just don't make the cut in the long term and I think this guy is just one of them.
could be .one thing is for sure he rambles on a lot .
 
take it u
You mean my 5 bedroom 3 bath 2500 SF home? Nah...I like them.
That's your dream home not your actual home ..
Come for a visit...sure the dog house is free :)
Good to see you concede finally. Can't murder someone for videotaping you which is EXACTLY what happened here oh along with an illegal stop.
False no murder took place .
For it to be murder the cop had to plan on killing , there is no evidence of that.
The stop was not illegal either.
Yes the stop was illegal. SEVERAL media outlets,experts etc have said it was. Flashing your lights is protected speech just ask the SC. He murdered that child. Plain and simple.
If I send your twenty bucks will you go out and start a fight with a cop.........please? Have your stupid piece of shit bitch wife 'record' what happens......please.
"My wife is born and bred White woman".
There you go folks. You seriously can't make this shit up.
Sure can't make it up she is white through and through I bet you are jealous. Oh and 20$ eh that will give us half a tank so sure send it. :)
Apparently when pushed, Nazi boy admits he didn't try to film the cop he dealt with, just kept the dash cam rolling. Apparently he understands that waiving a camera in a cops face when he's giving instructions to be followed can get him killed and he's a pussy, unlike the kid in the OP. He talks a big game, but admitted he can't back it up.
Filming is filming sparky. Entire point and goal is to have MY point of view caught on tape vs the lying cops version on record after he murders me. :)
Protected speech?
To be speech there has to be words .
Wrong again , to be murder like I said before
There has to be intent , there was none .
If it goes to trial the charge will be manslaughter.
What media outlets links?
Your racist bias opinion doesn't cut it.
take it up with SC ruling not me kid. Murder stands.unarmed child and he shot him 7 times for no reason other than he had a badge and kid didnt.
kid? lol...
the rest is bullshit .
where are the links ?
What is with the habit of you fuckers not being able to do your OWN research?

Federal judge rules drivers allowed to flash headlights to warn of speed traps

As you know rulings ESPECIALLY by Fed judges set precedents. We have a RIGHT to flash our lights and believe me I do.

Some truth finally..

Frost claims that in the short period between his stun gun deployment and the gunshots, that Guilford had got off the ground, was able to get on top of him, and was hitting him in the face.

There is no video of these final moments as Frost says his body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera, but Guilford’s cell phone recorded audio of the shots. The audio does not appear to indicate that Guilford, in a matter of seconds, was able to get up from his belly and attack the officer after having thousands of volts of electricity sent though his body.

like most pigs. He is lying.
 
take it u
That's your dream home not your actual home ..
Come for a visit...sure the dog house is free :)
False no murder took place .
For it to be murder the cop had to plan on killing , there is no evidence of that.
The stop was not illegal either.
Yes the stop was illegal. SEVERAL media outlets,experts etc have said it was. Flashing your lights is protected speech just ask the SC. He murdered that child. Plain and simple.
Sure can't make it up she is white through and through I bet you are jealous. Oh and 20$ eh that will give us half a tank so sure send it. :)
Apparently when pushed, Nazi boy admits he didn't try to film the cop he dealt with, just kept the dash cam rolling. Apparently he understands that waiving a camera in a cops face when he's giving instructions to be followed can get him killed and he's a pussy, unlike the kid in the OP. He talks a big game, but admitted he can't back it up.
Filming is filming sparky. Entire point and goal is to have MY point of view caught on tape vs the lying cops version on record after he murders me. :)
Protected speech?
To be speech there has to be words .
Wrong again , to be murder like I said before
There has to be intent , there was none .
If it goes to trial the charge will be manslaughter.
What media outlets links?
Your racist bias opinion doesn't cut it.
take it up with SC ruling not me kid. Murder stands.unarmed child and he shot him 7 times for no reason other than he had a badge and kid didnt.
kid? lol...
the rest is bullshit .
where are the links ?
What is with the habit of you fuckers not being able to do your OWN research?

Federal judge rules drivers allowed to flash headlights to warn of speed traps

As you know rulings ESPECIALLY by Fed judges set precedents. We have a RIGHT to flash our lights and believe me I do.

Some truth finally..

Frost claims that in the short period between his stun gun deployment and the gunshots, that Guilford had got off the ground, was able to get on top of him, and was hitting him in the face.

There is no video of these final moments as Frost says his body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera, but Guilford’s cell phone recorded audio of the shots. The audio does not appear to indicate that Guilford, in a matter of seconds, was able to get up from his belly and attack the officer after having thousands of volts of electricity sent though his body.

like most pigs. He is lying.
wrong the flashing headlights is not what got that asshole shot .
why is it ignorant racists jack offs like you, inevitably choose the wrong reason why shit happens.
he got shot , for the millionth time for not complying and attacking the cop.
wrong again the audio confirms that he did .
 
take it u
That's your dream home not your actual home ..
Come for a visit...sure the dog house is free :)
False no murder took place .
For it to be murder the cop had to plan on killing , there is no evidence of that.
The stop was not illegal either.
Yes the stop was illegal. SEVERAL media outlets,experts etc have said it was. Flashing your lights is protected speech just ask the SC. He murdered that child. Plain and simple.
Sure can't make it up she is white through and through I bet you are jealous. Oh and 20$ eh that will give us half a tank so sure send it. :)
Apparently when pushed, Nazi boy admits he didn't try to film the cop he dealt with, just kept the dash cam rolling. Apparently he understands that waiving a camera in a cops face when he's giving instructions to be followed can get him killed and he's a pussy, unlike the kid in the OP. He talks a big game, but admitted he can't back it up.
Filming is filming sparky. Entire point and goal is to have MY point of view caught on tape vs the lying cops version on record after he murders me. :)
Protected speech?
To be speech there has to be words .
Wrong again , to be murder like I said before
There has to be intent , there was none .
If it goes to trial the charge will be manslaughter.
What media outlets links?
Your racist bias opinion doesn't cut it.
take it up with SC ruling not me kid. Murder stands.unarmed child and he shot him 7 times for no reason other than he had a badge and kid didnt.
kid? lol...
the rest is bullshit .
where are the links ?
What is with the habit of you fuckers not being able to do your OWN research?

Federal judge rules drivers allowed to flash headlights to warn of speed traps

As you know rulings ESPECIALLY by Fed judges set precedents. We have a RIGHT to flash our lights and believe me I do.

Some truth finally..

Frost claims that in the short period between his stun gun deployment and the gunshots, that Guilford had got off the ground, was able to get on top of him, and was hitting him in the face.

There is no video of these final moments as Frost says his body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera, but Guilford’s cell phone recorded audio of the shots. The audio does not appear to indicate that Guilford, in a matter of seconds, was able to get up from his belly and attack the officer after having thousands of volts of electricity sent though his body.

like most pigs. He is lying.

Was he warning about a speed trap? Flashing high beams is part of a pattern of road rage driving, which is unlawful. At night it's even dangerous and officers have the right to protect the public from safety threats like this white, blonde headed thug (which is the only reason you care). So this boy was not only assaulting LEO's, he was also blasting his high beams into oncoming traffic. He was a dangerous individual and this country is safer with him 6 feet in the ground.

Good riddance!
 
take it u
Come for a visit...sure the dog house is free :)
Yes the stop was illegal. SEVERAL media outlets,experts etc have said it was. Flashing your lights is protected speech just ask the SC. He murdered that child. Plain and simple.
Filming is filming sparky. Entire point and goal is to have MY point of view caught on tape vs the lying cops version on record after he murders me. :)
Protected speech?
To be speech there has to be words .
Wrong again , to be murder like I said before
There has to be intent , there was none .
If it goes to trial the charge will be manslaughter.
What media outlets links?
Your racist bias opinion doesn't cut it.
take it up with SC ruling not me kid. Murder stands.unarmed child and he shot him 7 times for no reason other than he had a badge and kid didnt.
kid? lol...
the rest is bullshit .
where are the links ?
What is with the habit of you fuckers not being able to do your OWN research?

Federal judge rules drivers allowed to flash headlights to warn of speed traps

As you know rulings ESPECIALLY by Fed judges set precedents. We have a RIGHT to flash our lights and believe me I do.

Some truth finally..

Frost claims that in the short period between his stun gun deployment and the gunshots, that Guilford had got off the ground, was able to get on top of him, and was hitting him in the face.

There is no video of these final moments as Frost says his body camera came off during the fight and his SUV had no dash camera, but Guilford’s cell phone recorded audio of the shots. The audio does not appear to indicate that Guilford, in a matter of seconds, was able to get up from his belly and attack the officer after having thousands of volts of electricity sent though his body.

like most pigs. He is lying.
wrong the flashing headlights is not what got that asshole shot .
why is it ignorant racists jack offs like you, inevitably choose the wrong reason why shit happens.
he got shot , for the millionth time for not complying and attacking the cop.
wrong again the audio confirms that he did .
Yes it is. He was pulled over by steroid breath there for flashing lights when its the pig that should have parked his illegally head lighted car and drove a normal one but hey he has a badge he has extra rights to do as he pleases. The kid was MURDERED by a thug with a badge and extra rights.
 

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