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I've known some of the best firefighters anywhere. They don't pay attention to danger if it means being on oxygen for the rest of their lives, getting hotter than anyone else could stand, having a building fall on themselves, or die with the fickle change of the wind. They wouldn't have it any other way. They're brave, brave people, and quite a few of them will be fearlessly fighting a fire half an hour after their boss told them to get out, it's not safe. One guy was told to get out now, but he retorted no, that he was at point zero and was going in for the kill. He fought like crazy with his axe, getting to the root of fire, killed it, and won that battle. He saved a business three doors down from mine. In doing so, he saved the entire block. He came out unscathed except his handlebar mustache was somewhat shortened. What a guy. His two buds stuck it out with him. He's done it before, saving people's homes, lives, barns, and animals. Those guys in that town work out every day at the recreation center for an hour staying fit, then they hit the track. The younger guys won national firefighters championships for four straight years. It's no wonder with a guy like him for a role model who just doesn't quit because the fire registers a little too hot. When he was around, it was look out devil fire, he's gonna whoop yo' mean ass.
They love others more than self. Firefighters are a whole another breed of men. The worst day of their lives was 9/11 when 200 of their brother firefighters and cops died at ground zero from the WTC attack, assisting other people to safety. The only reason we lost 3,000 rather than 30,000 was because firefighters have a credo: "you leave first, fire victim. I have to see if there's anyone else."
They weren't there to save anyone's life.
The town had already been evacuated. We should respect these brave men who cannot be replaced enough not to waste their lives saving a bunch of empty buildings that can be replaced.
In short if no people are actually in danger then we need not send others to their death.
The whole town was not evacuated, some people were still there, for whatever their reasons.
That city has a lot of old 1880's & 90's buildings and the city gets good income from tourism because of them being authentic buildings.
Those buildings can not be replaced.
Some fires can remain contained in 1 acre for days. suddenly a wind comes up, and before you can say blitzkrieg, 30,000 acres are shooting across a prairie or forest at breakneck speed. That includes urban forests BTW. That happened in Yellowstone Park and vicinity back in the 80s or 90s (can't remember which). Only after 3 days, the 30,000 acres blitzed into a million acres, and the rest is history. The forest has begun growing back, but it's taken decades, and it won't be old growth for decades to come due to the altitude and reforestation difficulties in times of severe drought.I've known some of the best firefighters anywhere. They don't pay attention to danger if it means being on oxygen for the rest of their lives, getting hotter than anyone else could stand, having a building fall on themselves, or die with the fickle change of the wind. They wouldn't have it any other way. They're brave, brave people, and quite a few of them will be fearlessly fighting a fire half an hour after their boss told them to get out, it's not safe. One guy was told to get out now, but he retorted no, that he was at point zero and was going in for the kill. He fought like crazy with his axe, getting to the root of fire, killed it, and won that battle. He saved a business three doors down from mine. In doing so, he saved the entire block. He came out unscathed except his handlebar mustache was somewhat shortened. What a guy. His two buds stuck it out with him. He's done it before, saving people's homes, lives, barns, and animals. Those guys in that town work out every day at the recreation center for an hour staying fit, then they hit the track. The younger guys won national firefighters championships for four straight years. It's no wonder with a guy like him for a role model who just doesn't quit because the fire registers a little too hot. When he was around, it was look out devil fire, he's gonna whoop yo' mean ass.I'm sure all those buildings were insured. There was no need to risk anyone's life.
They love others more than self. Firefighters are a whole another breed of men. The worst day of their lives was 9/11 when 200 of their brother firefighters and cops died at ground zero from the WTC attack, assisting other people to safety. The only reason we lost 3,000 rather than 30,000 was because firefighters have a credo: "you leave first, fire victim. I have to see if there's anyone else."
They weren't there to save anyone's life.
The town had already been evacuated. We should respect these brave men who cannot be replaced enough not to waste their lives saving a bunch of empty buildings that can be replaced.
In short if no people are actually in danger then we need not send others to their death.
Are you gonna be the man to tell them to step aside and let the fire pass to the next village?They weren't there to save anyone's life.
The town had already been evacuated. We should respect these brave men who cannot be replaced enough not to waste their lives saving a bunch of empty buildings that can be replaced.
In short if no people are actually in danger then we need not send others to their death.
The whole town was not evacuated, some people were still there, for whatever their reasons.
That city has a lot of old 1880's & 90's buildings and the city gets good income from tourism because of them being authentic buildings.
Those buildings can not be replaced.
If they were there voluntarily then too bad. They had ample time to get out of the path of the fire. Anyone who was incapable of doing so should have received assistance that's it.
And sorry but no amount of tourist revenue is worth the life of a man never mind 19.
A building is nothing but bricks, wood and mortar can you quantify the lives of 19 brave men, husbands , fathers, brothers so easily?
Some fires can remain contained in 1 acre for days. suddenly a wind comes up, and before you can say blitzkrieg, 30,000 acres are shooting across a prairie or forest at breakneck speed. That includes urban forests BTW. That happened in Yellowstone Park and vicinity back in the 80s or 90s (can't remember which). Only after 3 days, the 30,000 acres blitzed into a million acres, and the rest is history. The forest has begun growing back, but it's taken decades, and it won't be old growth for decades to come due to the altitude and reforestation difficulties in times of severe drought.I've known some of the best firefighters anywhere. They don't pay attention to danger if it means being on oxygen for the rest of their lives, getting hotter than anyone else could stand, having a building fall on themselves, or die with the fickle change of the wind. They wouldn't have it any other way. They're brave, brave people, and quite a few of them will be fearlessly fighting a fire half an hour after their boss told them to get out, it's not safe. One guy was told to get out now, but he retorted no, that he was at point zero and was going in for the kill. He fought like crazy with his axe, getting to the root of fire, killed it, and won that battle. He saved a business three doors down from mine. In doing so, he saved the entire block. He came out unscathed except his handlebar mustache was somewhat shortened. What a guy. His two buds stuck it out with him. He's done it before, saving people's homes, lives, barns, and animals. Those guys in that town work out every day at the recreation center for an hour staying fit, then they hit the track. The younger guys won national firefighters championships for four straight years. It's no wonder with a guy like him for a role model who just doesn't quit because the fire registers a little too hot. When he was around, it was look out devil fire, he's gonna whoop yo' mean ass.
They love others more than self. Firefighters are a whole another breed of men. The worst day of their lives was 9/11 when 200 of their brother firefighters and cops died at ground zero from the WTC attack, assisting other people to safety. The only reason we lost 3,000 rather than 30,000 was because firefighters have a credo: "you leave first, fire victim. I have to see if there's anyone else."
They weren't there to save anyone's life.
The town had already been evacuated. We should respect these brave men who cannot be replaced enough not to waste their lives saving a bunch of empty buildings that can be replaced.
In short if no people are actually in danger then we need not send others to their death.
If someone in your circle of friends or loved ones were threatened by a fire, wouldn't you hope there would be a quality team around you?
2% of all Americans have experienced loss of a home due to a fire. Most of us never have that problem. But 2% of 300,000.000 people is 6,000,000 Americans. (six million) Six million people are more than just a small handful of people. A few of them die of smoke inhalation before waking up. It's a cruel situation to be on the brink of life and death to have someone come into your hospital room 3 weeks later to inform you to get ready for your child's funeral today. Wouldn't you rather that person's child had had the benefit of a professional firefighter's intervention and saving of his life rather than saying "eew, I've been her 2 hours and 10 minutes. Time for my break while those people in there may burn while I'm having my coffee."
Firefighting isn't for everyone. It takes a very courageous person to agree to do the task of fighting fires so others can live and prosper.
Are you gonna be the man to tell them to step aside and let the fire pass to the next village?The whole town was not evacuated, some people were still there, for whatever their reasons.
That city has a lot of old 1880's & 90's buildings and the city gets good income from tourism because of them being authentic buildings.
Those buildings can not be replaced.
If they were there voluntarily then too bad. They had ample time to get out of the path of the fire. Anyone who was incapable of doing so should have received assistance that's it.
And sorry but no amount of tourist revenue is worth the life of a man never mind 19.
A building is nothing but bricks, wood and mortar can you quantify the lives of 19 brave men, husbands , fathers, brothers so easily?
You might not prefer to get the looks you get from them as they're shoving you aside to get to the front lines of hammering the blaze.
Horrible tragedy
These brave souls will never be forgotten by many. I was listening to a person who lost everything except their dogs, because of firefighters like these.
R.I.P.
These brave souls will never be forgotten by many. I was listening to a person who lost everything except their dogs, because of firefighters like these.
R.I.P.
I know I would never forget someone who was trying to help save my home. I'm an Irish peasant at heart.
These brave souls will never be forgotten by many. I was listening to a person who lost everything except their dogs, because of firefighters like these.
R.I.P.
I know I would never forget someone who was trying to help save my home. I'm an Irish peasant at heart.
These people the saviors of our homes, our families, our pets are a different breed of person. The word hero seems to small compared to their acts of care and courage.
I love something you don't seem to about firefighters. I love what they stand for--putting others first and ahead of themselves.Some fires can remain contained in 1 acre for days. suddenly a wind comes up, and before you can say blitzkrieg, 30,000 acres are shooting across a prairie or forest at breakneck speed. That includes urban forests BTW. That happened in Yellowstone Park and vicinity back in the 80s or 90s (can't remember which). Only after 3 days, the 30,000 acres blitzed into a million acres, and the rest is history. The forest has begun growing back, but it's taken decades, and it won't be old growth for decades to come due to the altitude and reforestation difficulties in times of severe drought.They weren't there to save anyone's life.
The town had already been evacuated. We should respect these brave men who cannot be replaced enough not to waste their lives saving a bunch of empty buildings that can be replaced.
In short if no people are actually in danger then we need not send others to their death.
If someone in your circle of friends or loved ones were threatened by a fire, wouldn't you hope there would be a quality team around you?
2% of all Americans have experienced loss of a home due to a fire. Most of us never have that problem. But 2% of 300,000.000 people is 6,000,000 Americans. (six million) Six million people are more than just a small handful of people. A few of them die of smoke inhalation before waking up. It's a cruel situation to be on the brink of life and death to have someone come into your hospital room 3 weeks later to inform you to get ready for your child's funeral today. Wouldn't you rather that person's child had had the benefit of a professional firefighter's intervention and saving of his life rather than saying "eew, I've been her 2 hours and 10 minutes. Time for my break while those people in there may burn while I'm having my coffee."
Firefighting isn't for everyone. It takes a very courageous person to agree to do the task of fighting fires so others can live and prosper.
If I or someone I knew was in the path of a wildfire I'd get myself and/or them the fuck out before a man had to risk his life to save them. I could not live with myself if I needlessly caused the death of another when I could have simply left the area.
I'm sorry but the people of that town should be ashamed that they put those men in harm's way for nothing.
Forest fires are a natural phenomenon not unlike tornadoes there can be other measures taken to prevent wild fires from encroaching on homes without wasting the lives of brave men.
You seem to have respect for fire fighters you should realize that their lives are too valuable to throw away fighting fires where the only things in danger are a few acres of land and some buildings.
Do you honestly believe the residents of Yarnell had any say in how wildfires are handled? Like they got together Friday evening and took a vote on whether the hot shot team based in Prescott should bother to come do their jobs as firefighters and fight the fire?I'm sorry but the people of that town should be ashamed that they put those men in harm's way for nothing.
Try over 8000 acres and possibly hundreds of buildings.the only things in danger are a few acres of land and some buildings.
I love something you don't seem to about firefighters. I love what they stand for--putting others first and ahead of themselves.Some fires can remain contained in 1 acre for days. suddenly a wind comes up, and before you can say blitzkrieg, 30,000 acres are shooting across a prairie or forest at breakneck speed. That includes urban forests BTW. That happened in Yellowstone Park and vicinity back in the 80s or 90s (can't remember which). Only after 3 days, the 30,000 acres blitzed into a million acres, and the rest is history. The forest has begun growing back, but it's taken decades, and it won't be old growth for decades to come due to the altitude and reforestation difficulties in times of severe drought.
If someone in your circle of friends or loved ones were threatened by a fire, wouldn't you hope there would be a quality team around you?
2% of all Americans have experienced loss of a home due to a fire. Most of us never have that problem. But 2% of 300,000.000 people is 6,000,000 Americans. (six million) Six million people are more than just a small handful of people. A few of them die of smoke inhalation before waking up. It's a cruel situation to be on the brink of life and death to have someone come into your hospital room 3 weeks later to inform you to get ready for your child's funeral today. Wouldn't you rather that person's child had had the benefit of a professional firefighter's intervention and saving of his life rather than saying "eew, I've been her 2 hours and 10 minutes. Time for my break while those people in there may burn while I'm having my coffee."
Firefighting isn't for everyone. It takes a very courageous person to agree to do the task of fighting fires so others can live and prosper.
If I or someone I knew was in the path of a wildfire I'd get myself and/or them the fuck out before a man had to risk his life to save them. I could not live with myself if I needlessly caused the death of another when I could have simply left the area.
I'm sorry but the people of that town should be ashamed that they put those men in harm's way for nothing.
Forest fires are a natural phenomenon not unlike tornadoes there can be other measures taken to prevent wild fires from encroaching on homes without wasting the lives of brave men.
You seem to have respect for fire fighters you should realize that their lives are too valuable to throw away fighting fires where the only things in danger are a few acres of land and some buildings.
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Do you honestly believe the residents of Yarnell had any say in how wildfires are handled? Like they got together Friday evening and took a vote on whether the hot shot team based in Prescott should bother to come do their jobs as firefighters and fight the fire?I'm sorry but the people of that town should be ashamed that they put those men in harm's way for nothing.
The people of Yarnell have nothing to be ashamed of.
Try over 8000 acres and possibly hundreds of buildings.the only things in danger are a few acres of land and some buildings.
