19 polls show voters want taxes on wealthy raised

[Contumacious]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit

20 different polls show that the wealthy will simply move to a different country and take the capital with them.

Not to worry. You stupid motherfuckers will still have the Federal Reserve Board printing money for you until your hearts are content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Moonglow]

I just want a rich girl to trickle down on me.

 

[Toro]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit

Sounds like Democracy in action.

 

[Zona]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit

Oh yeah...well...57 states!

 

[Zona]

The wealthy benefit more from what our society has to offer, they should pay more

Total bullshit. They can take their wealth and live great. YOU would be the one to suffer if they decide to do that.

To think that the wealthy generate wealth without taxpayer help is simplistic. In fact, the wealthy get more from our tax dollar than any welfare family.

They benefit and make profit off of our transportation networks, free education system...heck, they even make money off of our welfare system.

They rely on the government to protect their interests at home and abroad and our military to maintain their international commerce

Agreed, but this is why lobbyists do what they do.

 

[American Cowboy]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases on the wealthy

Those aren't Americans, those are Marxists.

 

[Toro]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases on the wealthy

Those aren't Americans, those are Marxists.

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

 

[rightwinger]

Total bullshit. They can take their wealth and live great. YOU would be the one to suffer if they decide to do that.

To think that the wealthy generate wealth without taxpayer help is simplistic. In fact, the wealthy get more from our tax dollar than any welfare family.

They benefit and make profit off of our transportation networks, free education system...heck, they even make money off of our welfare system.

They rely on the government to protect their interests at home and abroad and our military to maintain their international commerce

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr151.pdf

Total nonsense......it only reflects direct spending by the government and fails to take into account the massive amount spent to protect and support business

 

[daveman]

To think that the wealthy generate wealth without taxpayer help is simplistic. In fact, the wealthy get more from our tax dollar than any welfare family.

They benefit and make profit off of our transportation networks, free education system...heck, they even make money off of our welfare system.

They rely on the government to protect their interests at home and abroad and our military to maintain their international commerce

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr151.pdf

Total nonsense......it only reflects direct spending by the government and fails to take into account the massive amount spent to protect and support business

Oh, you mean the same protection that protects every American? And the support that, by supporting business, also supports every American?

 

[American Cowboy]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases on the wealthy

Those aren't Americans, those are Marxists.

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

Freedom is for all, freedom is not just for some. It is unfair to tax some and not tax others. If 60% to 70% think wealth redistribution is the answer than they are Marxists. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

 

[Steelplate]

So is the sales tax 'unfair' then too?? Should the sales tax have different rates based on income???

Can't wait to hear this one

No... not saying that at all... I just get tired of hearing the same old meme that the working poor don't pay taxes... they do... and the taxes they do pay hurt.

But INCOME TAX? yeah... ought to be a progressive tax.. based on INCOME.

I never said they don't pay taxes.. I said ~48% pay no federal INCOME TAXES..

No... income tax should not be manipulated by this subjective 'fairness' bullshit... when people who earn pay disproportionately... and others are given free rides.. those getting free rides will continue to vote to get those very same free rides...

It ought to be equal treatment under law by government on INCOME and without loophole or difference in rate on any dollar.... EQUAL on every dollar earned by every citizen... anything else, is indeed by definition unequal treatment

Great... Ill tell you what though... Prepare for the Revolution. Suppose you set it at... oh, 20%. For a guy making $50k, $10K is a life changing amount of money. For a guy making $10M, $2M is a drop in the bucket and will never feel the pinch. Why do you want to hurt our working poor an middle class?

 

[oreo]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit

Well yeah--everyone wants SOMEBODY else to pay for something. But the problem is--no matter how much they tax the so-called wealthy in this country--it's not even going to scratch the surface on 14.3 trillion in red ink--with another 64 trillion in unfunded liabilites--with babyboomers now entering social security/medicare.

So don't worry--if these politicians do not GET substantial cuts out of this budget--you'll get your fair share in tax hikes no matter what your income level is.

Democrats are very good at giving with the right hand--and taking that plus more with the right. They're already discussing eliminating or drastically reducing the mortgage interest rate deduction--thereby hitting the middle class with higher tax liability. Jimmy Carter did the same thing.

 

[Toro]

Those aren't Americans, those are Marxists.

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

Freedom is for all, freedom is not just for some. It is unfair to tax some and not tax others. If 60% to 70% think wealth redistribution is the answer than they are Marxists. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

Have you ever read the Communist Manifesto?

See, I have. And I don't recall anything in the Communist Manifesto saying that the rich should pay a higher marginal rate of tax on their income and capital gains. But that was awhile ago, so if you can point to that passage in the Communist Manifesto, it would be appreciated.

 

[oreo]

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

Freedom is for all, freedom is not just for some. It is unfair to tax some and not tax others. If 60% to 70% think wealth redistribution is the answer than they are Marxists. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

Have you ever read the Communist Manifesto?

See, I have. And I don't recall anything in the Communist Manifesto saying that the rich should pay a higher marginal rate of tax on their income and capital gains. But that was awhile ago, so if you can point to that passage in the Communist Manifesto, it would be appreciated.

There simply isn't enough wealth in this entire country for the Federal Government to confiscate to pay this tab.

There are currently 18,000 baby boomers entering social security/medicare DAILY and this will continue for the next 15 years--resulting in another 64 TRILLION in unfunded liabilites on top of the 14.3 trillion in red ink now. This results in $534,000.00 per household in America owed to the Federal Government to pay this tab.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS CURRENTLY BORROWING .43 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR IT SPENDS.



1 BILLION DOLLARS --$100.00 BILLS STACKED ON PALLETS.



1 TRILLION DOLLARS--$100.00 BILLS STACKED ON PALLETS--Note: How small the man is in this chart.

Now when you big taxers and spenders--can tell me how and who you plan to tax the crap out of to get 74 of the above trillion dollar chart--let us know.

 

[American Cowboy]

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

Freedom is for all, freedom is not just for some. It is unfair to tax some and not tax others. If 60% to 70% think wealth redistribution is the answer than they are Marxists. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

Have you ever read the Communist Manifesto?

See, I have. And I don't recall anything in the Communist Manifesto saying that the rich should pay a higher marginal rate of tax on their income and capital gains. But that was awhile ago, so if you can point to that passage in the Communist Manifesto, it would be appreciated.

Your an idiot...What the hell do you think Karl Marx was writing about? Your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking, so I highlight the important part.

Marxism

Main articles: Marxism and Socialism (Marxism)

Karl Marx, 1875.I n the most influential of all socialist theories, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels believed the consciousness of those who earn a wage or salary (the "working class" in the broadest Marxist sense) would be molded by their "conditions" of "wage-slavery", leading to a tendency to seek their freedom or "emancipation" by throwing off the capitalist ownership of society. For Marx and Engels, conditions determine consciousness and ending the role of the capitalist class leads eventually to a classless society in which the state would wither away.

Marx wrote: "It is not the consciousness of [people] that determines their existence, but their social existence that determines their consciousness."

The Marxist conception of socialism is that of a specific historical phase that will displace capitalism and precede communism. The major characteristics of socialism (particularly as conceived by Marx and Engels after the Paris Commune of 1871) are that the proletariat will control the means of production through a workers' state erected by the workers in their interests. Economic activity would still be organised through the use of incentive systems and social classes would still exist, but to a lesser and diminishing extent than under capitalism.

For orthodox Marxists, socialism is the lower stage of communism based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" while upper stage communism is based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"; the upper stage becoming possible only after the socialist stage further develops economic efficiency and the automation of production has led to a superabundance of goods and services.

Marx argued that the material productive forces (in industry and commerce) brought into existence by capitalism predicated a cooperative society since production had become a mass social, collective activity of the working class to create commodities but with private ownership (the relations of production or property relations). This conflict between collective effort in large factories and private ownership would bring about a conscious desire in the working class to establish collective ownership commensurate with the collective efforts their daily experience.

"At a certain stage of development, the material productive forces of society come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – this merely expresses the same thing in legal terms – with the property relations within the framework of which they have operated hitherto. Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead sooner or later to the transformation of the whole immense superstructure."[49] A socialist society based on democratric cooperation thus arises. Eventually the state, associated with all previous societies which are divided into classes for the purpose of suppressing the oppressed classes, withers away.

By contrast, Émile Durkheim posits that socialism is rooted in the desire to bring the state closer to the realm of individual activity, in countering the anomie of a capitalist society, considering that socialism "simply represented a system in which moral principles discovered by scientific sociology could be applied". Durkheim could be considered a modern social democrat for advocating social reforms, but rejecting the creation of a socialist society.

Che Guevara sought socialism based on the rural peasantry rather than the urban working class, attempting to inspire the peasants of Bolivia by his own example into a change of consciousness. Guevara said in 1965:

Socialism cannot exist without a change in consciousness resulting in a new fraternal attitude toward humanity, both at an individual level, within the societies where socialism is being built or has been built, and on a world scale, with regard to all peoples suffering from imperialist oppression.

In the middle of the 20th century, socialist intellectuals retained considerable influence in European philosophy. Eros and Civilisation (1955), by Herbert Marcuse, explicitly attempted to merge Marxism with Freudianism. The social science of Marxist structuralism had a significant influence on the socialist New Left in the 1960s and the 1970s.

Source: Wikipedia - Because I do not want to spend much time on this gibberish.

 

[Contumacious]

60%-70% of Americans are Marxists?

Who knew?

Freedom is for all, freedom is not just for some. It is unfair to tax some and not tax others. If 60% to 70% think wealth redistribution is the answer than they are Marxists. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

Have you ever read the Communist Manifesto?

See, I have. And I don't recall anything in the Communist Manifesto saying that the rich should pay a higher marginal rate of tax on their income and capital gains. But that was awhile ago, so if you can point to that passage in the Communist Manifesto, it would be appreciated.

Yo Vern, read it again:

The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto

1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.


5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

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[Trajan]

Total bullshit. They can take their wealth and live great. YOU would be the one to suffer if they decide to do that.

To think that the wealthy generate wealth without taxpayer help is simplistic. In fact, the wealthy get more from our tax dollar than any welfare family.

They benefit and make profit off of our transportation networks, free education system...heck, they even make money off of our welfare system.

They rely on the government to protect their interests at home and abroad and our military to maintain their international commerce

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr151.pdf

thx for that I was to lazy, I am sooo tired of this argument. frankly anyone employing a modicum of logic can figure out when the gov. actually spends money by sending it to people to simply KEEP them above the party line, it has got to come from somewhere.

since there are only 3 million 100 and 4 thousand high earners the math is frightfully simple.

 

[oreo]

To think that the wealthy generate wealth without taxpayer help is simplistic. In fact, the wealthy get more from our tax dollar than any welfare family.

They benefit and make profit off of our transportation networks, free education system...heck, they even make money off of our welfare system.

They rely on the government to protect their interests at home and abroad and our military to maintain their international commerce

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr151.pdf

thx for that I was to lazy, I am sooo tired of this argument. frankly anyone employing a modicum of logic can figure out when the gov. actually spends money by sending it to people to simply KEEP them above the party line, it has got to come from somewhere.

since there are only 3 million 100 and 4 thousand high earners the math is frightfully simple.

The "earned income tax credit is a total joke of a taxpayer rip-off." You can actually work for 2 weeks out of the year--make $600.00 and of course pay no federal taxes on it--yet the Federal Government sends YOU a check anyway.

 

[Ame®icano]

19 Different Polls Show That Americans Support Tax Increases To Cut Deficit

These polls are cherry picked to suit agenda.

For example, from your link: "An April 29 Gallup poll found that only 20 percent of people believe the budget deficit should be reduced only by cutting spending; 76 percent say that higher taxes must play a role."

I checked Gallup links provided and there is no data that can support this claim. Gallup Poll

 

[rightwinger]

No... not saying that at all... I just get tired of hearing the same old meme that the working poor don't pay taxes... they do... and the taxes they do pay hurt.

But INCOME TAX? yeah... ought to be a progressive tax.. based on INCOME.

I never said they don't pay taxes.. I said ~48% pay no federal INCOME TAXES..

No... income tax should not be manipulated by this subjective 'fairness' bullshit... when people who earn pay disproportionately... and others are given free rides.. those getting free rides will continue to vote to get those very same free rides...

It ought to be equal treatment under law by government on INCOME and without loophole or difference in rate on any dollar.... EQUAL on every dollar earned by every citizen... anything else, is indeed by definition unequal treatment

Great... Ill tell you what though... Prepare for the Revolution. Suppose you set it at... oh, 20%. For a guy making $50k, $10K is a life changing amount of money. For a guy making $10M, $2M is a drop in the bucket and will never feel the pinch. Why do you want to hurt our working poor an middle class?

I love the constant whining from the right about 48% don't pay taxes. We need to look at why increasing numbers don't pay taxes

1. In order to give tax breaks to the wealthy, republicans also had to offer tax breaks to the lower classes

2. In a bad economy, more people drop below the line of tax eligibility