"20%-50% of Republicans are Stupid or Insane" - Former Reagan Official

I'm still waiting for Soggy in NOLA to answer the poll questions. :eusa_whistle:

you know, since it's not representative of how he thinks or anything.

I am quite surprised that they are attacking the poll results...but not telling us how they disagree with those results. Isn't that odd?

Why attack the message when you can always attack the messenger. Where would republicans be without the logical fallacy...
 
Also, I am sure if you polled Democrats you'd get similar results:

1. Two in three believe Bush is a Dictator
2. A majority believe Hillary Clinton is more qualified than Bush
3. 89% believe Bush should be impeached
4. Only 42% believe Bush served in the US armed forces.
5. 25% believe Bush "wants the terrorists to win"
6. 95% believe the courts stole the last election
7. 81% believe Bush hates black people

While this is surely an exaggeration, I'm in agreement that you may have a point with this post.

However, it should be pointed out that at this point in his presidency, Bush enjoyed 90% approval ratings, which included the vast majority of Democratic voters.

Except for the whole contested election thing, it was only after Bush fucked everything up royally that people started to speak so badly of him.

In Obama's case, the right-wing smear machine started making up the insane conspiracy theories before he was even elected.
 
I'm thinking that people should just think a bit more:

An Inconvenient Truth - Forbes.com

An Inconvenient Truth
Ilya Somin, 02.12.10, 6:50 PM ET
A recent poll sponsored by the liberal Daily Kos Web site shows that many self-identified Republican voters hold irrational and extremist views--a finding that Kos founder Markos Moulitsos deems "startling." Unfortunately, too many commentators mistakenly assume that such ideas are confined to one side of the political spectrum.

There are some methodological problems with the Kos survey. It probably oversamples the most committed Republicans. Strong partisans are more likely to hold extreme views, such as the "birther" belief that Barack Obama wasn't really born in the U.S. (endorsed by 36% of Kos' respondents). Despite such flaws, many of the Kos findings are roughly accurate. But one can easily find parallel examples of dubious views among Democratic voters.

Moulitsos highlights the 36% of Republicans in the Kos poll who seem to endorse birtherism, and the 22% who say they aren't sure. Yet a 2007 poll found that 35% of self-identified Democrats believe that President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance, and 26% said they didn't know if he did.

The results also show that 23% of Republicans say they want their state to secede. But a 2008 Zogby poll found that support for secession was much more common among liberals than conservatives. In that poll, 32% of liberals claimed that their state has a right to secede (compared with only 17% of conservatives), and liberals were also more likely to say that they would support a secession movement in their state. Partisans are disproportionately likely to express support for secession when they are angry at an incumbent administration of the opposite party. Secessionism isn't necessarily ignorant, and the problem isn't limited to Republicans.

Other examples of irrationality by Democratic voters are not hard to come by. According to a 2009 survey, some 32% of Democrats believe that Jews deserve at least a substantial amount of blame for the financial crisis (compared with 18% of Republicans). In November 2008 some 59% of Obama voters did not know that the Democrats then had control of Congress.

Voter ignorance and irrationality are general shortcomings of modern democracy. Most voters have incentives to be "rationally ignorant" about politics because of the extremely low chance that any one vote will be decisive in an election. For similar reasons, voters also have incentives to do a poor job of evaluating the political information they do have. Numerous studies show that they tend to discount information that goes against their preconceptions, while overvaluing anything that seems to confirm them. This explains both Republican susceptibility to birtherism and Democratic receptivity to 9/11 conspiracy theories. These problems are exacerbated by the size, scope, and complexity of the modern state, which is so enormous that even the best-informed voters can't keep track of more than a small fraction of its activities. Today, government spending takes up some 40% of U.S. GDP, and government also regulates almost every aspect of our lives.

The best response to voter ignorance is to reduce the size and scope of government. When people act in the market and civil society, they have much better incentives to make well-informed decisions. When a consumer decides whether to buy a product, he knows that his choice will be decisive and thus has reason to acquire needed information and consider it rationally.

For committed partisans, it's always fun to denounce the ignorance of the other side's voters. Unfortunately, partisan activists tend to ignore the inconvenient truth that their own party's voters are just as bad...
 
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Our government has been involved with the private sector since the U.S. government held a 20% equity interest in the 1st U.S. Bank, financed rail and canal building, and directed business in two major world wars.

Baruch Menachem, our government is certainly not headed toward National Socialism.

So, Joke, what do you think about the poll results? You are, after all, a self described Republican. You need a bigger broom. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Theres one now

Meghan McCain, Youth Spokeswoman
Fact: Meghan McCain is the most visible political person in the country under 25 years of age right now. With appearances on Rachel Maddow, The View, and now Larry King Live, the 2008 presidential campaign (and her blogging during it) has given her a sizable podium. Some have criticized her for her centrist, socially liberal views--Laura Ingraham compared her to a plus-sized model--and earlier this month she gave a name to the brand of moderate Republicanism to which she ascribes: "progressive Republican."

Last night, on Larry King Live, she talked more about what that means: "I consider myself a progressive Republican. I am liberal on social issues, and I think that the party is at a place where social issues shouldn't define the party...in fairness to me, I am a different generation than the people that are giving me heat...I think there's such a generation gap that the people that don't undertand me, I actually take it as compliment, that sort of this new young Republican can come forward and make progress and be successful in the ways that this party has curently failed."
 
Our government has been involved with the private sector since the U.S. government held a 20% equity interest in the 1st U.S. Bank, financed rail and canal building, and directed business in two major world wars.

Baruch Menachem, our government is certainly not headed toward National Socialism.

So, Joke, what do you think about the poll results? You are, after all, a self described Republican. You need a bigger broom. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

You are saying you cannot refute my point. Got it.
 
Theres one now

Meghan McCain, Youth Spokeswoman
Fact: Meghan McCain is the most visible political person in the country under 25 years of age right now. With appearances on Rachel Maddow, The View, and now Larry King Live, the 2008 presidential campaign (and her blogging during it) has given her a sizable podium. Some have criticized her for her centrist, socially liberal views--Laura Ingraham compared her to a plus-sized model--and earlier this month she gave a name to the brand of moderate Republicanism to which she ascribes: "progressive Republican."

Last night, on Larry King Live, she talked more about what that means: "I consider myself a progressive Republican. I am liberal on social issues, and I think that the party is at a place where social issues shouldn't define the party...in fairness to me, I am a different generation than the people that are giving me heat...I think there's such a generation gap that the people that don't undertand me, I actually take it as compliment, that sort of this new young Republican can come forward and make progress and be successful in the ways that this party has curently failed."

Like OMG, like say it ain't so. Like little Megan is like a Progressive Reuplican. like how so cool.
 
What young Ms McCain does not know yet but time is going to teach her will be "Youth and Stamina and Cool are always overcome by Age, Experience, and Cunning." Her naivete is fun to listen to.
 
Am I a democrat?

Yes

do I think the rich should give all their money to the poor?

Yes

do I think people are evil and should stop breeding?

Yes

do I think only gays should raise children?

Yes

see how easy it is. To make shit up.
 
Stupid? Insane? Those are the wrong two words. Try "gullible" and "delusional".
 
Am I a democrat?

Yes

do I think the rich should give all their money to the poor?

Yes

do I think people are evil and should stop breeding?

Yes

do I think only gays should raise children?

Yes

see how easy it is. To make shit up.

According to Republicans, it's not "evil people" who should stop breeding, they have no problem with that. It's poor people.

Poor people are like stray dogs and cats, says South Carolina’s Republican Lt. Governor, Andre Bauer. If you feed, them, they’ll just come back for more–and worse still, they’ll multiply.

S.C. Republican's Plan: Starve the Poor So They'll Stop ''Breeding''

YOU CAN'T MAKE UP THIS TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
 
20%-50% of Republicans are Stupid or Insane" - Former Reagan Official

Yeah, that strikes me as about the right numbers.


But I'd caracterize most of them as ignorant rather than stupid.

Of course I blieve I'd find about the same kind of outcomes if they polled partistan dems, too.
 
Toro probably wants to retract this thread 2 years later.

:)

peace...
 

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