400 years of Slavery?

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Thread has turned into a whiny bitch fest about white people problems.

I dunno about that but it went off the rails right off the bat. Both sides are focused on trolling the other rather than any real discussion.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

As an Agnostic, I see both hard-core Theists, and Atheists as pretty damned delusional.

But, I don't get how you're getting this conclusion?

Thus far there's been mostly anti-Christian, and anti-Cop rhetoric, rather than some kind of "Imagined" "White complaints?

What are you smoking, exactly?

Um, no. Someone tried to blame everyone else for slavery but Christianity. It's been pointed out absolutely asinine that is. Glad I could help.

Uh, there's been massive slave trades by Christians (Atlantic Slave Trade), but also Muslims (Arab Slave Trade), as well as Atheists (Soviet Gulag's)

Oh, how dare people point that out.

I commented once to a smart friend, "I can't wrap my head around who the first person was to say "Oh, look--a stranger. I think I'll keep him." My friend laughed and said "As soon as we figured out we could get someone else to do our work for us, slavery was on."
He was right of course. It's no doubt been going on since we were still grunting and pointing instead of carving our stories on stone.

Sure, Slave masters were wrong, but weren't they supporters of a Multi-ethnic society, just like a lot of Leftists support today?

No, they were strong supporters of separate and not equal. There is nothing 'multi-ethnic' about a society where one race rules over another. Nice twist though.

Well, do explain how White Nationalists wanted to import Blacks into their own back yards?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This thread is not about "cops"

It is about seeing yourself as a victim and white cops killing blacks fuels that perception.

Perception =/= reality

Allow me to expound:
Your perception = Your reality

Also wrong.

My perception is that transgender is a SERIOUS mental disorder. I am smart enough to know that that is not reality despite my personal feelings.

This is the difference between those that have the ability to think critically and those that can't. Just because I don't see or personally experience something does not mean it isn't real or possible.

 

[OldLady]

The first slave owner in t he U.S. was a black tobacco farmer named Anthony Johnson.

Anthony Johnson (colonist) - Wikipedia
In 1651 he owned 250 acres (100 ha), and the services of five indentured servants (four white and one black). In 1653, John Casor, a black indentured servant whose contract Johnson appeared to have bought in the early 1640s, approached Captain Goldsmith, claiming his indenture had expired seven years earlier and that he was being held illegally by Johnson. A neighbor, Robert Parker, intervened and persuaded Johnson to free Casor.
Eventually, after appeals, Johnson was given "ownership" of his indentured servant for life, making him the first "slave owner."
Just so you get the facts straight.

 

[Godboy]

most of the blacks shot by cops are justified/self defense shootings

I wonder how many of those cops wouldn't have felt they were in danger if the person of interest was white?

Far more white people are killed by cops than blacks. Quit being so ignorant and do some research.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is a reference to ideological tunnel vision & generations of being bound by a thought process that prohibits thinking outside the box.



This is the origins of that comment and while the number could be considered off if you discount the history of Africa the point remains on target.

Rather than dig into the substance of the situation the left would rather distract you with the thoughts of a simpleton.

While this could be considered a "race" thread I hope that the moderators see that it is a hot topic in political circles and deserves to be discussed and thought out rather than relegated to the race forum which very few visit.

I think the legacy of slavery is still felt in Black families but Blacks today do seem to be victims of the criminal justice system. We've all seen videos of Blacks being shot by cops and read about abuses in assigning bail and prison sentences. It is unfortunate but understandable that many Blacks consider themselves victims.

I'd love to know how you figure any of that, aside from "feelz".

In what way does "the legacy of slavery" still affect black people today? Please be specific and, if possible, include evidence.

What actual, empirical evidence do you have that blacks are "victims of the criminal justice system"? Again, please be specific.

The only thing that's really "understandable" about the perpetual victimhood of black Americans today is that if you're constantly telling yourself that you're put upon, you're going to feel put upon.

 

[alang1216]

Also wrong.

My perception is that transgender is a SERIOUS mental disorder. I am smart enough to know that that is not reality despite my personal feelings.

This is the difference between those that have the ability to think critically and those that can't. Just because I don't see or personally experience something does not mean it isn't real or possible.

Sorry but you can't perceive that transgender is a SERIOUS mental disorder and know it is not. You are being dishonest to everyone including yourself.

 

[alang1216]

most of the blacks shot by cops are justified/self defense shootings

I wonder how many of those cops wouldn't have felt they were in danger if the person of interest was white?

Far more white people are killed by cops than blacks. Quit being so ignorant and do some research.

Please explain the higher percent of blacks killed compared to their actual population numbers.

 

[alang1216]

I'd love to know how you figure any of that, aside from "feelz".

In what way does "the legacy of slavery" still affect black people today? Please be specific and, if possible, include evidence.

What actual, empirical evidence do you have that blacks are "victims of the criminal justice system"? Again, please be specific.

The only thing that's really "understandable" about the perpetual victimhood of black Americans today is that if you're constantly telling yourself that you're put upon, you're going to feel put upon.

You don't need me to run your Google searches, these opinions are hardy unique to me, try:

• legacy of slavery
• blacks are victims of the criminal justice system

You are right about the perpetual victimhood of black Americans but that doesn't mean black are not victims, it just means it is a burden they must shake off rather than revel in.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is a reference to ideological tunnel vision & generations of being bound by a thought process that prohibits thinking outside the box.



This is the origins of that comment and while the number could be considered off if you discount the history of Africa the point remains on target.

Rather than dig into the substance of the situation the left would rather distract you with the thoughts of a simpleton.

While this could be considered a "race" thread I hope that the moderators see that it is a hot topic in political circles and deserves to be discussed and thought out rather than relegated to the race forum which very few visit.

I think the legacy of slavery is still felt in Black families but Blacks today do seem to be victims of the criminal justice system. We've all seen videos of Blacks being shot by cops and read about abuses in assigning bail and prison sentences. It is unfortunate but understandable that many Blacks consider themselves victims.

Do you know that if the blacks of Africa didn't WAR upon each other but lived with Christian Values of peace and brotherhood, there wouldn't of been a slave market? If the Muslims in the Ivory Coast didn't buy and ship the slaves to the Americas, there wouldn't of been a slave market? If the Southern White Democrats didn't think "niggas" were their property and didn't buy the slaves from the sellers, those blacks would of been killed in Africa, because there wouldn't of been a slave market? Oh well, none of those happened, and the rest is history.

If Europeans lived by Christian values, they wouldn't have bought the slaves. So I guess it was an enormous fail all around.

It's like humans are imperfect creatures, or some shit.

Question is, how long does one get to cling to and obsess over the imperfections of humans long dead, and blame current life problems on them? At what point does the failure of a person's life become the fault of that person's own decisions?

 

[Cecilie1200]

most of the blacks shot by cops are justified/self defense shootings

I wonder how many of those cops wouldn't have felt they were in danger if the person of interest was white?

What I wonder is how much of a possibility there is that such a calculation would have been correct.

 

[Siete]

wonder not - RW's would be content with another 400 years of owing slaves.

 

[harmonica]

most whites did not own slaves

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Also wrong.

My perception is that transgender is a SERIOUS mental disorder. I am smart enough to know that that is not reality despite my personal feelings.

This is the difference between those that have the ability to think critically and those that can't. Just because I don't see or personally experience something does not mean it isn't real or possible.

Sorry but you can't perceive that transgender is a SERIOUS mental disorder and know it is not. You are being dishonest to everyone including yourself.

So it is totally natural for a man to have injections that cause him to have boobs? You are completely insane which is why you vote Dimocrat.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

wonder not - RW's would be content with another 400 years of owing slaves.

I would be more content if you would just go to the bottom of the ocean and stay there. I would rather work for myself than have some shit like you working for me.

 

[OldLady]

It is a reference to ideological tunnel vision & generations of being bound by a thought process that prohibits thinking outside the box.



This is the origins of that comment and while the number could be considered off if you discount the history of Africa the point remains on target.

Rather than dig into the substance of the situation the left would rather distract you with the thoughts of a simpleton.

While this could be considered a "race" thread I hope that the moderators see that it is a hot topic in political circles and deserves to be discussed and thought out rather than relegated to the race forum which very few visit.

I think the legacy of slavery is still felt in Black families but Blacks today do seem to be victims of the criminal justice system. We've all seen videos of Blacks being shot by cops and read about abuses in assigning bail and prison sentences. It is unfortunate but understandable that many Blacks consider themselves victims.

I'd love to know how you figure any of that, aside from "feelz".

In what way does "the legacy of slavery" still affect black people today? Please be specific and, if possible, include evidence.

What actual, empirical evidence do you have that blacks are "victims of the criminal justice system"? Again, please be specific.

The only thing that's really "understandable" about the perpetual victimhood of black Americans today is that if you're constantly telling yourself that you're put upon, you're going to feel put upon.

Cecille, you may have a gorgeous tail, but your brain is about the size of that bird's. You have had those questions answered and explained to you in detail any number of times, I'm sure, on this board and probably elsewhere. Yet you continue to ask.

 

[Godboy]

most of the blacks shot by cops are justified/self defense shootings

I wonder how many of those cops wouldn't have felt they were in danger if the person of interest was white?

Far more white people are killed by cops than blacks. Quit being so ignorant and do some research.

Please explain the higher percent of blacks killed compared to their actual population numbers.

What percentage of crime do they commit? Most of our nation's violent criminals are black. That means they are more likely to be involved in confrontations with the police, YET white people are killed at more than twice the rate. If there is a problem with cops, its that they kill far too many white people.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Kanye is a huge danger to the standard " blame whitey" meme that runs deep throughout our media, government, and culture structure.

 

[Siete]

wonder not - RW's would be content with another 400 years of owing slaves.

I would be more content if you would just go to the bottom of the ocean and stay there. I would rather work for myself than have some shit like you working for me.

you couldnt afford me.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Agnostic is derived from the word ignorant.

So get off your dumbass pedestal.

It's from the Greek word agnōstos which means unknowable. I does not mean ignorant.

The term Agnostic is derived from the ancient Greek word gnosis-knowledge. By the word agnostic, the Greeks seem to have meant one who has no knowledge in a very general sense. In 1869, Thomas Huxley used the word to describe how he did not know about things metaphysical.

Why Agnosticism? - TheHumanist.com

Not knowing = ignorance

Sorry, the definition of agnosticism is not ignorance. It's understanding that you do not know whether god exists. Ignorance would be placing the proof of god on a book of fiction.

If there was proof of God, or proof that God does not exist, then we wouldn't need faith. Not a hard concept to grasp. Ignorance is attempting to insult the intelligence and/or sincerity of those that do not believe as you believe.

I don't really care who is religious and who isn't. Doesn't change what I said, the bible is a book of fiction.

And yet archeology says you’re a liar.