47 Empty Top Secret Folders .......

[struth]

yea good luck with that in court

your boy Trump is fucked, this isn;t the partisan impeachment hearing where the sheep GOP Senators will all vote to save him. Trump is going to be charged in criminal court.

The Feds have a 98% conviction rate, and Trump is caught red handed breaking the law.

haha it’s not trump or anyone else accused of something burden to prove anything l….you’re the one saying there the docs…and all your got are empty folders

 

[2aguy]

100% false

The president can't just wave a magic wand and declassify top secret documents. If that's your defense Trump will go to prison

There is a process to declassify documents, especially when they involve extremely sensitive and top secret material.

Watch what the threat assessment says, Trump's fucked

You are a moron...

from Polifact no less...

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president.

The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
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Turner noted, however, that this isn’t necessarily a big distinction, since the president is ultimately the decider of what is classified and not. If his appointees disagree with his actions, "he can overrule their decisions," Turner said. "Within the Executive Branch the president is the boss."

does-president-have-ability-declassify-anything-an

 

[lennypartiv]

47 Empty Top Secret Folders​

So no illegal documents?

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Um, those like you who think that empty folders indicate that Trump squirreled away the documents are the ones believing in fantasies.

Just think about how dumb this thread is....

If someone wanted to take a bunch of classified documents, would they leave the empty folders behind?

Think, people. It's absurd.

This thread is like a Dem version of a Q-Anon theory which makes no sense on the surface, but tons of Democrats embrace because it is anti-Trump.

Know what the Dem's version of Q-Anon is? You know, the internet sources which provide ridiculous information for the uncritical minds to consume is called?

Mainstream Media...

mar-a-lago empty folders at DuckDuckGo

DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

duckduckgo.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are a moron...

from Polifact no less...

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president.

The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
------
Turner noted, however, that this isn’t necessarily a big distinction, since the president is ultimately the decider of what is classified and not. If his appointees disagree with his actions, "he can overrule their decisions," Turner said. "Within the Executive Branch the president is the boss."

does-president-have-ability-declassify-anything-an

Nobody disputes that. Sane people laugh at Trump's obvious lie that he declassified them. So you just wasted your time , there.

 

[2aguy]

Presidents may declassify documents, but there are court rulings about following protocols and the court’s unwillingness to accept declassification on a “say so”.

Presidents May Declassify Documents, but…

You are wrong...


"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president.

The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
------
Turner noted, however, that this isn’t necessarily a big distinction, since the president is ultimately the decider of what is classified and not. If his appointees disagree with his actions, "he can overrule their decisions," Turner said. "Within the Executive Branch the president is the boss."

Do presidents have 'the ability to declassify anything'?

The blockbuster article in The Washington Post saying President Donald Trump had "revealed highly classified information

www.politifact.com

 

[eagle7-31]

Wow !
This just keeps getting better.

We already know Trump committed a serious crime, illegally stealing and then mishandling ultra top secret documents and then getting caught red handed with them in his basement .

BUT

There's plenty more.

We now know that they also found 47 empty Top Secret folders, with the ultra Top secret contents no where to be found.
God only knows what was in those folders. Again these are the ultra sensitive, ultra Top Secret classified material. The serious stuff. The bad stuff.

Now this material is no where to be found. Trump has lost this ultra Top Secret material, even more serious violation than we all originally assumed.

Trump has committed the most serious crime a president has ever committed, and he needs to be held accountable.

Indictment and prison is inevitable.

FBI took empty folders, photographs and clothes from Mar-a-Lago

The list shows that several empty folders found had classified markings on them and magazine and news articles were also picked up.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The folders were empty like left wingers heads.

 

[Lastamender]

Wow !
This just keeps getting better.

We already know Trump committed a serious crime, illegally stealing and then mishandling ultra top secret documents and then getting caught red handed with them in his basement .

BUT

There's plenty more.

We now know that they also found 47 empty Top Secret folders, with the ultra Top secret contents no where to be found.
God only knows what was in those folders. Again these are the ultra sensitive, ultra Top Secret classified material. The serious stuff. The bad stuff.

Now this material is no where to be found. Trump has lost this ultra Top Secret material, even more serious violation than we all originally assumed.

Trump has committed the most serious crime a president has ever committed, and he needs to be held accountable.

Indictment and prison is inevitable.

FBI took empty folders, photographs and clothes from Mar-a-Lago

The list shows that several empty folders found had classified markings on them and magazine and news articles were also picked up.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[2aguy]

Presidents may declassify documents, but there are court rulings about following protocols and the court’s unwillingness to accept declassification on a “say so”.

Presidents May Declassify Documents, but…

You didn't even read you own link....you nitwit...

Those departments or agencies then provide their assessment as to whether the document should stay classified for national security reasons. If there is a dispute among the agencies, they debate, but the president ultimately makes the decision on declassification, Immerman explained.

 

[2aguy]

Who is the owner of those government documents, classified or not?

What are they telling about that, in your world?

Who they belong to is up to lawyers...not the democrat party FBI/gestapo......

And now that you concede that Trump could declassify anything he wanted....now you need to admit the FBI is now the gestapo of the democrat party..

 

[2aguy]

Where are the classified documents that are missing from their cover folders?

The FBI/gestapo has them....

 

[Papageorgio]

Partisan???

Trump put American lives at risk

I'm sorry you do not care about the safety and security of America and American citizens.

Fuck off perv, where the fuck did I say I didn’t care about our security, you pompous ass. You the fucking asshole that starts the thread with “This just keeps getting better.” You are excited it is happening. WTF? You are happy our security is in jeopardy, just because you have a hard on for Trump?

I have listened to partisan bullshit from Democrats and Republicans since Clinton was President and not one charge has ever been levied against any of these Presidents, until there is a conviction it is just noise. I tire of the speculation, the rumors, the claims. From day one I have said if Trump has done anything wrong arrest, try and convict, I’m good with it.

So again fuck you, you piece of shit for being excited about our security breach.

 

[2aguy]

You go with that, buddy.



Nope, there's a process for declassifying materials, that requires review of the declassified materials. This is so the agencies can review the potential impact of declassified documents.

No...moron...there isn't....the President has total and final say no matter what the apparatchiks in the government tell him.....you dope....

From Politifact, no less....

"The President, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

In fact, Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, said that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information with Russia, it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on the president.

The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
------
Turner noted, however, that this isn’t necessarily a big distinction, since the president is ultimately the decider of what is classified and not. If his appointees disagree with his actions, "he can overrule their decisions," Turner said. "Within the Executive Branch the president is the boss."


PolitiFact - Does the president have 'the ability to declassify anything at any time'?

 

[bodecea]

not my problem nor is it trumps

And this is where you show that you don't give a damn about this country and it's security.

 

[MaryL]

yea because Trump lost/hid/stole the top secret documents inside putting US security at risk, hence the search warrant, potential indictment, and prison sentence for Trumpy

That's an allegation. I can alege YOU stole Colonel Sanders' top secret Extra crispy fried chicken receipt. When the FBI raids your home, they find you have a stash of illicit catnip or stolen hubcaps in your basement, over a blacked-out redacted one-size fits all subpoena that they can change at any time. Please. EVEN YOU have to admit, there is something fishy here.

 

[bodecea]

So no illegal documents?

Where are the classified documents that are missing from their cover folders?

 

[2aguy]

Where are the classified documents that are missing from their cover folders?

In Merrick Garland's office.....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In Merrick Garland's office.....

Desperate fantasy, coping mechanism

 

[2aguy]

Desperate fantasy, coping mechanism

Nope.......you guys are pleasuring yourselves with the thoughts of empty envelopes....you should really get help......

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nope.......you guys are pleasuring yourselves with the thoughts of empty envelopes....you should really get help......

Nobody knows what that embarrassing whining means. But you certainly are having quite the little hissy fit. Special orange man have bad day again?