51% Of American Muslims Want Sharia... (NOT in All Caps Now..)

[RandallFlagg]

I was getting headaches from all the shouting around me. It's getting loud and nasty and in a lot of cases --- foolish. It really is a deficit in CULTURE, not a defect of Islam.
I have no doubts that Judaism, Islam, Christianity can all be practiced peacefully in cultures that dont

REQUIRE tyrants to keep down the bloodshed.
Live with perpetual tribe on tribe, sect on sect violence.
Make RELIGIOUS law dominant over Civil law or incorporate large portions of it.
Perceive a RIGHT to be free from being offended or uncomfortable in their morals/ethics.

i disagree with your assessment that Islam can be practiced peacefully together long term with Judaism and Christianity in the SAME culture....unless Islam is the dominant religion and rules it will not 'live and let live'......at least that has been its history by and large....

Muslim criminals and Jewish criminals and Christian criminals are punished in America, without concern about their religion, because of our secular Constitution.

that's nice.....

however, when the Muslim population gets bigger and bigger and starts undermining our laws plus rioting what are you going to do then? put them all in jail?

And when ebola ravages your town you can execute all the doctors.

You love the fallacy of false assumption, dontcha?

The generations born here meld into the population without much problem. The Mateens etc. are the exceptions that prove the rule.

You got no game, podjo.

so you think the Muslim populations are "melding" into western culture.......?

i guess that's why 51+% prefer Sharia law to our Constitution....

i guess that's why terrorism is rampant world-wide....

i guess that's why many countries in Europe are facing cultural oblivion.....

...and the reason liberals are screaming for Muslims (radical or not) be admitted by the tens of thousands. What better way to destroy this country?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

 

[Contumacious]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

Invade "countries" .....huh........no just attack DC ....they are the problem

 

[RandallFlagg]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

I have been in favor, since 2001, of a declaration of war against ALL terrorists groups. I am a member of the DIA Alum association and we, the members, have been wondering why the hell a declaration was never sought. The only possible conclusion is that George Bush and then Barry Obama are deathly afraid of offending the Saudis. That's the ONLY reasonable conclusion that can be made.

 

[boedicca]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are possibly right.

I have said from the beginning that we should stop importation of ME oil and trade only with Mexico, Canada, and Venezuela and tell V we will bomb the shit out of them if they give us any grief.

That makes regressives like Mac1958 wet their pants. They want $$$ more than America secure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

No, the criminal approach is constitutional and appropriate. The Constitution is only in danger from the far right that would take security in place of freedom.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

Agreed 100%. I recall back to a time when Obama was floating the idea of bringing the inmates of GITMO here - to US soil where they could receive "Civil Trials". He was foaming at the mouth. Thankfully the American people were quick to give him hell. I could see the communists at the ACLU getting them off. As it is, most have been returned to the battlefield, where they continue to kill and plot against us. Fortunately, we will soon rid ourselves of this clown.

 

[boedicca]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

No, the criminal approach is constitutional and appropriate. The Constitution is only in danger from the far right that would take security in place of freedom.

No, it's not. But it's not a surprise that you wish to see our society destroyed.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

No, the criminal approach is constitutional and appropriate. The Constitution is only in danger from the far right that would take security in place of freedom.

Gees...you are sure dumb.

 

[Contumacious]

Islamists have declared war on Western Civilization...and the Prog response is:

Gun Control, Transgender Bathrooms and Trigger Warnings because White Privilege!

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

" The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact"

The only time a government bureaucrats utters that cliche is when he/she is getting ready to USURP authority


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[Lakhota]

So why are we importing the tool of our own nation's demise?

Welcome to Obama's 'Fundamental Change'! Unfortunately there are a LOT of Americans (Liberals) whose light hasn't come on yet.

Obama admittedly was / has:

- Sired by an Anti-American, anti-colonialist father who wanted the US eliminated as a world power and influence...

- Tutored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis...

- Studied Socialist Saul Alinsky - even quoted him during an Inauguration speech

- Mentored for decades by a hate-spewing racist anti-American 'pastor',

- Friends with a domestic terrorist who bombed his own country and killed cops

- Declared he would stand with Muslims if the political winds blow ugly

- Declared the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam (Convert to Islam or die, as in no future for YOU...sound familiar)

- Armed the terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood

- Armed Al Qaeda

- Dragged the US into the middle of a civil war between a dictator we put into power - WHO WAS JUST BEGINNING TO HELP US COMBAT TERRORISTS IN NTHRN AFRCIA - and Al Qaeida, perpetrators of 9/11/01 and 9/11/12, to help Al Qaeida kill Qadaffi and take over their own nation as a safe haven....all this at a time when Obama was declaring Al Qaeida was on the run!

- Supplied, Armed, Trained, & Protected ISIS, dropped leaflets to them, after the Paris attack, to warn them that French and Russian bombers were coming to drop bombs on the ISIS Black Market oil facilities Obama was protecting that funded 50% of their terrorist activities - to include the Paris attack (can you say 'aiding and abetting the enemy'?!)

- Mocked Americans over their concerns for our national security and their safety, even after he admitted his 'vetting process' was virtually non-existent - claiming all they had to fear after the Paris attacks were 'widows and orphans' - only to have the terrorist to whom his administration gave a visa murder 12 Americans in California

Obama has sacrificed American lives for his personal political benefit / re-election. He has defended Islam by blaming a video for the needless murder of 4 Americans, by calling a terrorist attack a case of 'workplace violence', by sending out his AG to threaten Americans with punishment if they exercised their right to Free Speech, by having his DHS openly declare Conservatives (who he called his 'enemies' and whom he used his IRS to target) greater threats than Islamic extremists, & has lectured the very same Americans he has bullied and vilified who are being targeted by Radical Islamists.


Obama has failed to protect Iraq, a nation our nation's soldiers had liberated at great cost, by allowing ISIS to freely enter Iraq without opposition, while he supplied/armed/trained/protected them and called them a 'JV Team'.



Despite admitting his vetting process is virtually non-existent...

Despite his FBI already spread beyond the breaking point investigating 1,000 cases involving ISIS threats in the US...

Despite ISIS declaring they are going to infiltrate the refugees...

Despite his CIA warning ISIS IS infiltrating the 'refugees' coming in...

Despite more successful terrorist attacks having been carried out under his administration than any in our nation's history...

Despite the American body count directly tied to his policies and actions Obama CONTINUES to bring in hundreds of un-vetted Muslims from a civil war-torn nation - a war between terrorists Obama has supported and a dictator - that is the home base for ISIS!


Arizona, Tennessee, Texas, California, Benghazi, Florida...while the bodies keep piling up Obama's DHS is declaring the enemy is AMERICANS and works to 'ban' the words 'Jihad' and 'Sharia' as Obama refuses to say the words 'Radical Islam' and 'Islamic extremists' because 'it means we are at war with all of Islam'.


Why is he still President? Nothing to see here...move along.


You are being redirected...

Funny. Try this on for size:

57% Of Republicans Say Dismantle Constitution And Make Christianity National Religion

44 percent of Republicans favor a Christian theocracy according to a new survey

The Conservative Crusade For Christian Sharia Law

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your "let's suspend the Constitution" is not going to happen.

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

No, the criminal approach is constitutional and appropriate. The Constitution is only in danger from the far right that would take security in place of freedom.

No, it's not. But it's not a surprise that you wish to see our society destroyed.

Says the person who wants to turn America into a totalitarian state under far right control.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You far right Christian fascists are not going to get your way.

You will have the same civil liberties as everyone you hate: is that not great?

 

[boedicca]

Link? I don't recall ever saying we should suspend the Constitution, FAKEY.

What we should do is to pass a war resolution and treat Invaders and Traitors who attack our country accordingly. Manteen was an enemy sympathizer who attacked Americans on the enemy's behalf.

That is where you nonsense would lead. Look up "exception to the rule" because you don't get it. Yes, we should have passed a Declaration of War on September 12, 2001, but no we have farted around ever since invading the fucking wrong countries.

No, you don't get it. Treating Radical Islamists who are engaged in a guerrilla and overt war against us as "criminals" and perpetrators of "workplace violence" is self-destructive. The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact, and there are provisions which enable us to engage in a legal war. Instead, you'd rather hide in a safe space looking at puppy videos and playing with coloring books.

No, the criminal approach is constitutional and appropriate. The Constitution is only in danger from the far right that would take security in place of freedom.

No, it's not. But it's not a surprise that you wish to see our society destroyed.

Says the person who turn American into a totalitarian state under far right control.

Ding ding ding! You are a LAIR! And You Lose!

 

[JakeStarkey]

The responsible right, center, and left will not let the far right and the crazies stuff the ballot box for Trump. That is the only way he could win.

Since he won’t win, the far right may rise up, and for that we are prepared. Many are hoping the far right acts so stupidly.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

You far right Christian fascists are not going to get your way.

You will have the same civil liberties as everyone you hate: is that not great?

but....as a far left fascist you won't allow Christians the same civil liberties you grant to your favored groups.....

 

[easyt65]

You far right Christian fascists are not going to get your way.

You will have the same civil liberties as everyone you hate: is that not great?

'FAR RIGHT' Christians want true freedom of religion and protection from an anti-Christian left and a CULT that oppresses and mutilates women, kills homosexuals, perpetrates genocide on Christians, and whose goal is to murder anyone who does not convert to Islam and accept rule by Sharia law.

If liberals have their way, you are right...we will NOT get our way.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You far right Christian fascists are not going to get your way.

You will have the same civil liberties as everyone you hate: is that not great?

'FAR RIGHT' Christians want true freedom of religion and protection from an anti-Christian left and a CULT that oppresses and mutilates women, kills homosexuals, perpetrates genocide on Christians, and whose goal is to murder anyone who does not convert to Islam and accept rule by Sharia law.

If liberals have their way, you are right...we will NOT get our way.

You have all the civil liberties you want to deny others. That is what will not happen, easyt.

 

[flacaltenn]

I was getting headaches from all the shouting around me. It's getting loud and nasty and in a lot of cases --- foolish. It really is a deficit in CULTURE, not a defect of Islam.
I have no doubts that Judaism, Islam, Christianity can all be practiced peacefully in cultures that dont

REQUIRE tyrants to keep down the bloodshed.
Live with perpetual tribe on tribe, sect on sect violence.
Make RELIGIOUS law dominant over Civil law or incorporate large portions of it.
Perceive a RIGHT to be free from being offended or uncomfortable in their morals/ethics.

i disagree with your assessment that Islam can be practiced peacefully together long term with Judaism and Christianity in the SAME culture....unless Islam is the dominant religion and rules it will not 'live and let live'......at least that has been its history by and large....

Muslim criminals and Jewish criminals and Christian criminals are punished in America, without concern about their religion, because of our secular Constitution.

that's nice.....

however, when the Muslim population gets bigger and bigger and starts undermining our laws plus rioting what are you going to do then? put them all in jail?

And when ebola ravages your town you can execute all the doctors.

You love the fallacy of false assumption, dontcha?

The generations born here meld into the population without much problem. The Mateens etc. are the exceptions that prove the rule.

You got no game, podjo.

Manteen isn't exception. He's part of the early Vanguard.

Actually he's a remnant of our always sucky foreign policy.. It's not getting much play but there's enough fact out there for me to speculate a bit.. First the fact...

Orlando shooting gunman Omar Mateen father Seddique Mateen a Taliban supporter says God will punish gays

In the video posted early Monday, Seddique Mateen says his son was well-educated and respectful to his parents, and that he was "not aware what motivated him to go into a gay club and kill 50 people."

The elder Mateen says he was saddened by his son's actions during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

He then adds: "God will punish those involved in homosexuality," saying it's, "not an issue that humans should deal with."

The statement, and previous videos by Seddique Mateen, lend some insight into the environment in which his U.S.-born son was raised.

Seddique Mateen hosts a program on a California-based satellite Afghan TV station, aimed at the Afghan diaspora in the in the U.S., called the "Durand Jirga Show."

A senior Afghan intelligence source tells CBS News correspondent Lara Logan that the show is watched by some in people in Afghanistan but the primary audience is ethnic Pashtun Afghans living in the U.S. and Europe.

The Taliban Islamic extremist movement is comprised almost entirely of Pashtuns, and Mateen's show takes a decidedly Pashtun nationalistic, pro-Taliban slant; full of anti-U.S. rhetoric and inflammatory language aimed at non-Pashtuns and at Pakistan, the source told Logan.

The name of the show references the Durand line, the disputed border between Afghanistan and Pakistan that was established in the 19th century by Britain. It has long been at the heart of deep-seated mistrust between Afghans and Pakistanis.

Seddique Mateen once campaigned in the United States for current Afghan President Ashraf Ghani -- seen as a moderate leader -- who appeared on his program in 2014. But since then Seddique has turned against Ghani in both his broadcasts and numerous videos posted to a Facebook account.

In his Facebook videos, the alleged gunman's father has often appeared wearing a military uniform and declaring himself the leader of a "transitional revolutionary government" of Afghanistan. He claims to have his own intelligence agency and close ties to the U.S. Congress -- assets he says he will use to subvert Pakistani influence and take control of Afghanistan.

After watching his videos -- none of which were recorded in English -- CBS News' Ahmad Mukhtar said it seemed possible that Seddique Mateen is delusional. "He thinks he runs a government in exile and will soon take the power in Kabul in a revolution," notes Mukhtar.

Now how freaking weird is all that??? Combined with his visits and pictures to D.C. and speeches there.

So --- the speculation..
According to reports the father came over in the mid -- 80s.. Right about the time that our State Dept would have tossing out lifelines to folks that helped us defeat Russian invaders. Hate to remind you ---- but we were backing Taliban and Al Queda there. My "theory" is we plucked him out because his life was threatened and he HELPED us in that effort. Thus his delusions of leadership of Afghan. Or maybe -- He's STILL running media ops for the interests of the US today..

I'm very familiar with the practice of rescuing those who have helped us in war zones. And I think it's VITALLY important that we CONTINUE to do that... Using the best judgement of the State Dept to figure out any real threats. But our supporting the Taliban in the 80s is SOOO damn random and cuckoo that maybe his activities and rhetoric were PURPOSELY overlooked by the Feds.

It's isolated and unfortunately MIGHT have been a factor in his son's tendency to radicalize..