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Other animals don't. Well, except perhaps lemmings.Otherwise we'd just all commit suicide.
If everything just happened, then there can be no eternality of anything and no rational reason for what exists to exist unless it's always been. And science has proven that this is not the case. And philosophy rationalizes that this isn't the case. And mathematics reveals that this cannot be the case. But GOD isn't a material being. HE reveals that HE is in fact SPIRIT. Unlike all the gods of the ancients, and all the things "moderns" desire ---- which are material. SPIRIT has no beginning.
Totally bogus.
The Universe does not require a creation or creator.
It could have always existed, or it could be the result of inanimate effects we just do not know about or understand.
The existence of the Universe in no way is proof God exists.
Fortunately, science has proven that the UNIVERSE didn't always exist. Again, here is way an atheist has to say on this subject:
Science hasn't proven it. It's a theory that is accepted. And no one knows what happened before the Big Bang. The Big Bang could easily have just happened within the universe, and the universe existed before the Big Bang.
Survival doesn't depend on intelligence, and my hypothesis it is not even the most crucial aspect of who we are. I often work with handicapped students, some of whom are well aware they are not intelligent or even smart. What they do know is that they are some one, which to me makes them more intelligent than the average bear. We should all have that awareness--that we are capable of more, we are some one more.So we have a survival thing in our genes which literally forces us to think we're intelligent.
The SLoT tells us that as time approaches infinity the universe approaches maximum disorder. There are a couple of ways we can look at this. One is from a thermal equilibrium standpoint. The other is a universe ending up with nothing but radiation. Neither of which we see.By virtue of the second law of thermodynamics matter and energy must have a beginning. There's no doubt the universe was created. Everything points to that.I don't know that we humans with our tiny little minds will ever understand the origin of existence. If God created the universe, how did God come to exist? If we conclude that God has no beginning and no end, doesn't that contradict the notion that everything complex must have a creator? Could it be that mass and energy has no beginning? Beats me, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
If God created the universe, how did God come to exist? The only possible explanation is that God must be eternal and unchanging. That Mind, rather than emerging as a late outgrowth in the evolution of life, has existed always as the matrix, the source and condition of physical reality - that the stuff of which physical reality is composed is mind-stuff. It is Mind that has composed a physical universe that breeds life, and so eventually evolves creatures that know and create.
Wrong.
There is no law of thermodynamics that matter or energy must have a beginning.
In fact, physics says that matter and energy can not be created or destroyed.
Nothing points to the Universe being created, at all.
Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory say otherwise.Nothing points to the Universe being created, at all.
If everything just happened, then there can be no eternality of anything and no rational reason for what exists to exist unless it's always been. And science has proven that this is not the case. And philosophy rationalizes that this isn't the case. And mathematics reveals that this cannot be the case. But GOD isn't a material being. HE reveals that HE is in fact SPIRIT. Unlike all the gods of the ancients, and all the things "moderns" desire ---- which are material. SPIRIT has no beginning.
Totally bogus.
The Universe does not require a creation or creator.
It could have always existed, or it could be the result of inanimate effects we just do not know about or understand.
The existence of the Universe in no way is proof God exists.
Fortunately, science has proven that the UNIVERSE didn't always exist. Again, here is way an atheist has to say on this subject:
Science hasn't proven it. It's a theory that is accepted. And no one knows what happened before the Big Bang. The Big Bang could easily have just happened within the universe, and the universe existed before the Big Bang.
You can believe that if you wish; however, no Physicist today now accepts your anti bang, partial bang.... You just rather believe anything but in GOD ----- but that is your BANG!
Survival doesn't depend on intelligence, and my hypothesis it is not even the most crucial aspect of who we are. I often work with handicapped students, some of whom are well aware they are not intelligent or even smart. What they do know is that they are some one, which to me makes them more intelligent than the average bear. We should all have that awareness--that we are capable of more, we are some one more.So we have a survival thing in our genes which literally forces us to think we're intelligent.
There is so much around us, so much! We are all limited to a small piece, which is quite large enough for our time here. We have to respect what the others have, what they see, know that it has value without ever losing the respect for our piece.
Working with handicapped kids: I can never see all they are which reminds me that I can't see all anyone is, anymore than they can see me. We're blind.
.Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory say otherwise.
.Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory say otherwise.
they've gone delusional over the most remote possibility of all - sortof fits their profile, to make real what is obviously false.
..Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics, the Second Law of Thermodynamics and Inflation Theory say otherwise.
they've gone delusional over the most remote possibility of all - sortof fits their profile, to make real what is obviously false.The Big Bang | Exploratorium
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This fails as an appeal to authority fallacy.The physical didn't exist until GOD created it.Sigh. See what I mean about "proper understanding"? Proof requires physical existence, physical matter that can be measured by at least one of five senses. The spirit does not have a physical existence, is not made of matter, cannot be measured. There.is.no.proof. There.can.be.no.proof. And this is the first thing that should be taught and learned. The problem with atheists is not that they do not understand God--It is that they do not even understand elementary science.The last thing a theist wants is proof of ‘god’
If we cannot teach them proof via teaching science, perhaps we can teach it via religion.
If the spirit is not physical, then how can the spirit have any impact on the physical?
How can God have made the universe if God isn't physical?
But how could God create the physical if God NOW has nothing to do with the physical?
It makes NO SENSE.Psalm 33:6
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host.
Jesus gave two recommendations. Seek and find; the pure of heart will see God. In other words, the reason for seeking and finding must be pure--no underlying motives.And how do you "verify God"?
In my opinion it may well be the number one reason why people who seek do not find.And the "Do not test the lord".... wow, that's the biggest get out clause of all.
Yeah, logic, being sensible, using your brain, all getting in the way of finding that imaginary friend.
I teach science. Proof is physical evidence. I don't know of any physical evidence of God's existence. You and I seem to agree on that. However, I do know that God exists. You tell me I don't know I can only believe. Shrug. I know, but again I have no physical evidence, merely testimony. There is no reason for you to believe me, and I am just offering insight on why so many believe with no physical evidence and how that belief has nothing to do with imagining or imagination.The issue here is that some said there's 6 "proof" or evidence that God exists.
Ah good, so there's no evidence God exists at all.
There's a huge difference between religion and God. Like most atheists, you seem to conflate the two.If religion is dwindling, it is not because schools teach math, science, language, etc. It is because it has dropped teaching religion. People are becoming less educated about that.Because the problem here is that the number of religious people is dwindling as we become more educated.
I doubt it. When religion was really high, most people didn't even go to school.
Religion is dropping because people can't be bothered with it, it's a scam and they know it.
That you have people walking around going "I won't wear a mask, it's a scam" but still go to church is crazy
Sigh. See what I mean about "proper understanding"? Proof requires physical existence, physical matter that can be measured by at least one of five senses. The spirit does not have a physical existence, is not made of matter, cannot be measured. There.is.no.proof. There.can.be.no.proof. And this is the first thing that should be taught and learned. The problem with atheists is not that they do not understand God--It is that they do not even understand elementary science.The last thing a theist wants is proof of ‘god’
If we cannot teach them proof via teaching science, perhaps we can teach it via religion.
In my opinion it may well be the number one reason why people who seek do not find.And the "Do not test the lord".... wow, that's the biggest get out clause of all.
Yeah, logic, being sensible, using your brain, all getting in the way of finding that imaginary friend.
It's always amusing to me when atheists bring up logic. Your worldview cannot even account for the abstract but very real laws of logic.
It is. The reason we teach anything is so that students gain a proper understanding. Do you see proper understanding of religion in this religion forum?And appropriately so – it’s neither the role nor responsibility of public education to teach religion.
I teach science. Proof is physical evidence. I don't know of any physical evidence of God's existence. You and I seem to agree on that. However, I do know that God exists. You tell me I don't know I can only believe. Shrug. I know, but again I have no physical evidence, merely testimony. There is no reason for you to believe me, and I am just offering insight on why so many believe with no physical evidence and how that belief has nothing to do with imagining or imagination.The issue here is that some said there's 6 "proof" or evidence that God exists.
Ah good, so there's no evidence God exists at all.
You changed her words. She didn't say there was no evidence, she said she doesn't know of any physical evidence. (I disagree, but that's besides the point.) I hope that was simply you reading her words wrong, rather than intentional dishonesty.
There's a huge difference between religion and God. Like most atheists, you seem to conflate the two.If religion is dwindling, it is not because schools teach math, science, language, etc. It is because it has dropped teaching religion. People are becoming less educated about that.Because the problem here is that the number of religious people is dwindling as we become more educated.
I doubt it. When religion was really high, most people didn't even go to school.
Religion is dropping because people can't be bothered with it, it's a scam and they know it.
That you have people walking around going "I won't wear a mask, it's a scam" but still go to church is crazy
