84 schools in England show NO white British pupils...

[Phoenall]

Do your research prick.
Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

 

[Coyote]

Do your research prick.
Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

 

[Unkotare]

Why are white folks not having enough babies?

...a world already overpopulated ?

It is not.

Only 40% of the land surface is capable of producing food and for the current population we need closer to 60%. Even the UK is no longer self sufficient, and just one bad year and the grain harvest fails you hit food shortages, We are building more homes on arable land to keep up with the demands of the population increases, and thus losing on food production.

And what has happened over the last 15 years then ?

Yields have continued to increase.

 

[Phoenall]

So, you think that two women who are just like yourself in attitude means that the rapists were not all Muslim men?

Your combination of stupidity and dishonesty is utterly staggering.

Sigh.
It is a bit beneath me to discuss this with a rabid frothing bigot like yourself but in the spirit of Christian outreach..............
The people who raped those girls were monsters.
The people who procured them by setting up an elaborate con were monsters as well.

Only a brain dead bigot like yourself would make any distinction between the two.
But I suspect that you do not know any better.

There are important lessons to be learned from this but,again, most of them would go over your head.

Oh, for crying out fucking loud.

The rapists were racist Muslims who selected British girls, calling them "easy meat" because they are white British girls. The children were raped with impunity because worthless gits like yourself consider it an act of bigotry to tell the truth -- namely, that the perps were Muslim, that they were expressing contempt for females, children and Britain, and that the entire operation was abetted and covered up by those such as yourself with the same mindless devotion to this cult-like apologia of yours.

Fat little toads such as yourself only continue this pattern of dysfunction.

They didnt select them though. They were selected by their pimps who were white "christian" women. I can see that it sort of screws up your primitive world view but there you have it.
Perhaps thats why you are being abusive and childishly trying to deflect on to me. Sad fucker.

WRONG AGAIN if you follow the cases, they were selected by the muslim adult men. The courts stated that the action was racist terrorism by the muslim men, and some absconded back to Pakistan before being arrested. They were enabled and supported by neo Marxists in power at the time in return for a handful of votes, making all of the Labour party and unions just as guilty as the muslim adult men. in a proper democracy these scum would also be facing court action, and the decent people would not be needed to pay any taxes for the next 10 years with the fines and confiscations handed down

Do you have a link for that?

How many would you like ?





Oxford grooming gang: We will regret ignoring Asian thugs who target white girls


Twelve men who repeatedly gang-raped and abused teenage girl



Peterborough Muslim Grooming Gang Targeted White Girls For Gang Rapes And Exploitation

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Do your research prick.
Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

Rotherham was a wake up call for the country. The whole thing was jaw dropping. Pretty much everybody comes out of it in a bad light. There are still dozens of police officers under investigation and it is certain that charges will follow.
The South Yorkshire force is probably the most corrupt in Britain.
Alongside that the labour party has a virtual fiefdom in that area and that is not a health situation.
There are a whole raft of social and cultural issues combined to let this happen and not least how we look after the vulnerable in our society. Its a shame that some would politicise it to push a narrow agenda or a loony conspiracy theory. Thats where it sits with the far right in Britain though.

 

[Phoenall]

Do your research prick.
Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.[/QUOTE

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

I think that is very valid. I also think that there is an issue with Western culture in that we have so many broken families that offer up these victims. These girls were mainly in care and vulnerable. There is a long history of children in care being abused going back to the 50s at least. There are public enquiries going on now and they will lead to more enquiries. The scope of it all is shocking. We dont look after our kids.

I don't think it's just western culture. You have similar things going on around the world - young girls are "sold", either to settle debts, because girls are deemed of little value, because the families can't afford to care for their children, or - because they are vulnerable, runaways, broken families. What's horrible is that a supposedly "legitimate" operation like what these two women ran was able to run so long unexamined, like the gang run grooming ring.

There are some really depressed communities in that part of the world and the kids are the victims.

Kidnapping of Shannon Matthews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This story sort of brings every thread together. Woman with several kids by different fathers. Now "married" to a younger man who is also a child abuser. Kidnaps her own daughter to claim reward money. she even sold t shirts with "Come home Shannon" messages. Kids from that sort of background are vulnerable to abusers and I think that it is getting worse.

Its an anecdotal piece but it does help you to understand something that normal people look at and scratch their heads over. How do you get in such a state to let your children be exploited ? Probably because you arent capable of even looking after yourself.

And it is all down to your political ideology that sees throwing money at dysfunctional people as the answer, when education and work is really the answer.

But nice duck away from the way the thread went towards neo marxism's role in mass rape of children by muslim gangs

 

[Correll]

Your position that direct personal experience is required to have a legitimate position on an issue is utterly absurd.

Yes it is, I agree. Direct personal experience however, carries marginally more weight than unsourced or uncorroborrated opinion pieces, written by someone with an agenda.

Arguing about which opinion "carries more weight" is just a variant of the logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority.

Support and defend your opinion. State what you think is wrong about the opposing opinion. That is what debate IS.

1. Sure. Muslims in UK top 3 million for first time with over 50% born abroad

"England is home to more than three million Muslims for the first time ever, new figures show.

The number in the country has doubled in just over a decade as a result of soaring immigration and high birth rates."

2. And yes, allowing high levels of Third World Immigration is a government policy.

3. "Nation of immigrants" is a nonsense term. The majority of British Citizens are White British, and have been native born for many, many generations. If you wish to defend the policy of Third World Immigration, defend it by it's merits, not by untrue claims.

How many of those Muslims are white converts?
Even if they are all immigrants, our population as of 17th April 2016 is 65,030,037 so 3 million is only 4.6% of the total poplualtion. I'm not worried.

Your "lack of fear" doesn't mean that it isn't rapid demographic change, nor does it make the case that this change is for the better.

This is a policy that has NOT been honestly and openly debated and then decided on by the people and/or their elected representatives.

It has been decided on, by the Political Class and any attempts at criticism and honest debate has been shut down with Political Correctness and the Race Card.

I wonder how the girls of Rotherham feel about how well everyone gets along?

Rotherham was a scandal and a disgrace, but sexual exploitation is a world wide phenomenon, not just limited to one section of society or one country. There are statistics out there that say 20% of white American women have been sexually assaulted at least once in their life, and even more subject to domestic violence.

Sexual exploitation, however IS more prevalent in some "sections of society".

And it is absurd to compare the feminist panic mongering over being touched in college with the real victims in the muslim Rape Rings in your country.

Indeed, it is a insult to those victims, to compare their suffering with some drunken coed who may or may not have been groped.

Its a small point but you are aware that the Rotherham gang was multi racial ?

Multi racial my ass.

The vast majority of the ring were pakistani muslims.

I believe there was one or two black muslims.

Big Fucking Deal.

 

[Coyote]

Sigh.
It is a bit beneath me to discuss this with a rabid frothing bigot like yourself but in the spirit of Christian outreach..............
The people who raped those girls were monsters.
The people who procured them by setting up an elaborate con were monsters as well.

Only a brain dead bigot like yourself would make any distinction between the two.
But I suspect that you do not know any better.

There are important lessons to be learned from this but,again, most of them would go over your head.

Oh, for crying out fucking loud.

The rapists were racist Muslims who selected British girls, calling them "easy meat" because they are white British girls. The children were raped with impunity because worthless gits like yourself consider it an act of bigotry to tell the truth -- namely, that the perps were Muslim, that they were expressing contempt for females, children and Britain, and that the entire operation was abetted and covered up by those such as yourself with the same mindless devotion to this cult-like apologia of yours.

Fat little toads such as yourself only continue this pattern of dysfunction.

They didnt select them though. They were selected by their pimps who were white "christian" women. I can see that it sort of screws up your primitive world view but there you have it.
Perhaps thats why you are being abusive and childishly trying to deflect on to me. Sad fucker.

WRONG AGAIN if you follow the cases, they were selected by the muslim adult men. The courts stated that the action was racist terrorism by the muslim men, and some absconded back to Pakistan before being arrested. They were enabled and supported by neo Marxists in power at the time in return for a handful of votes, making all of the Labour party and unions just as guilty as the muslim adult men. in a proper democracy these scum would also be facing court action, and the decent people would not be needed to pay any taxes for the next 10 years with the fines and confiscations handed down

Do you have a link for that?

How many would you like ?





Oxford grooming gang: We will regret ignoring Asian thugs who target white girls


Twelve men who repeatedly gang-raped and abused teenage girl



Peterborough Muslim Grooming Gang Targeted White Girls For Gang Rapes And Exploitation

Just one that supports "The courts stated that the action was racist terrorism "

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.[/QUOTE
Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

I think that is very valid. I also think that there is an issue with Western culture in that we have so many broken families that offer up these victims. These girls were mainly in care and vulnerable. There is a long history of children in care being abused going back to the 50s at least. There are public enquiries going on now and they will lead to more enquiries. The scope of it all is shocking. We dont look after our kids.

I don't think it's just western culture. You have similar things going on around the world - young girls are "sold", either to settle debts, because girls are deemed of little value, because the families can't afford to care for their children, or - because they are vulnerable, runaways, broken families. What's horrible is that a supposedly "legitimate" operation like what these two women ran was able to run so long unexamined, like the gang run grooming ring.

There are some really depressed communities in that part of the world and the kids are the victims.

Kidnapping of Shannon Matthews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This story sort of brings every thread together. Woman with several kids by different fathers. Now "married" to a younger man who is also a child abuser. Kidnaps her own daughter to claim reward money. she even sold t shirts with "Come home Shannon" messages. Kids from that sort of background are vulnerable to abusers and I think that it is getting worse.

Its an anecdotal piece but it does help you to understand something that normal people look at and scratch their heads over. How do you get in such a state to let your children be exploited ? Probably because you arent capable of even looking after yourself.

And it is all down to your political ideology that sees throwing money at dysfunctional people as the answer, when education and work is really the answer.

But nice duck away from the way the thread went towards neo marxism's role in mass rape of children by muslim gangs

Neo marxism ? Its a bunch of perv criminals taking advantage of neglected kids who people didnt really care about.Not least a corrupt police force and an incompetent local authority. Your desire to make it a commie plot would be laughable if it wasnt so sick. And you have no idea what my political ideology is you fucking cretin.

 

[Correll]

Your "lack of fear" doesn't mean that it isn't rapid demographic change...

If you look at the figures population increase in the Uk last year attributable to immigrants amounted to approximately 250,000 people, which is 0.399% I'm even less worried than I was before. I would not call that "rapid". UK population increases by 500,000, official figures show - BBC News

Sexual exploitation, however IS more prevalent in some "sections of society".

Yes, the white section of society! According to 2010 figures 76% of sexual offenders are white, 7% black, 8% asian, and 9% "other" (whatever that means) Are Asians disproportionately represented in prosecutions for sex offences?

1. Surely you know that White Britions do not have a replacement birthrate so that small increase is hiding a much more rapid demographic shift?

If you are aware of that, that was kind of dishonest of you to pretend you didn't.

2. Mmm, numbers compiled by the same policies forces who ignored the rape ring for 6 years because they didn't want to focus on Asians?

 

[Phoenall]

Do your research prick.
Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

NO you are denying them because it shows that by rights you should be against islam and the muslims. How many times have we seen the reports of what is being taught in mosques all over the world, and wahabi's being the most evil.

Actually Ayeshas age is in the koran if you look, and it is just one hadith that contradicts the rest of the hadiths and the koran.





From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309

Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….

From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116

"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."

From "The History of Tabari", volume 9, page 131

"Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me"...(The Prophet) married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died.

From the Encyclopedia of Islam, under "Aisha":

"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home."







Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Aisha - WikiIslam

Aisha was Prophet Muhammad's child bride. He married her when she was six to seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years old




By the time of mo'mad very few children were married at 9 and raped, in fact most females were over the age of 12. There is a big difference between a pre pubescent girl playing with dolls and a 12 year old woman.
Another big difference is that only the muslims still believe that it is a mans right to take a pre pubescent girl as his wife, rape her, damage her so she cant bear children and then throw her away because she cant perform her duties anymore. No other religion even comes close to this barbarity and psychopathic behaviour. Not even the states in the US that allow girls of 12 to be married.

 

[Correll]

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

Rotherham was a wake up call for the country. The whole thing was jaw dropping. Pretty much everybody comes out of it in a bad light. There are still dozens of police officers under investigation and it is certain that charges will follow.
The South Yorkshire force is probably the most corrupt in Britain.
Alongside that the labour party has a virtual fiefdom in that area and that is not a health situation.
There are a whole raft of social and cultural issues combined to let this happen and not least how we look after the vulnerable in our society. Its a shame that some would politicise it to push a narrow agenda or a loony conspiracy theory. Thats where it sits with the far right in Britain though.

AS THE vast majority of the rape ring was Pakistani, and that the reason they were able to operate so openly and for so long was primarily because of Political Correctness,

the debate should primarily be on Third World Immigration and Political Correctness.

 

[Phoenall]

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

Rotherham was a wake up call for the country. The whole thing was jaw dropping. Pretty much everybody comes out of it in a bad light. There are still dozens of police officers under investigation and it is certain that charges will follow.
The South Yorkshire force is probably the most corrupt in Britain.
Alongside that the labour party has a virtual fiefdom in that area and that is not a health situation.
There are a whole raft of social and cultural issues combined to let this happen and not least how we look after the vulnerable in our society. Its a shame that some would politicise it to push a narrow agenda or a loony conspiracy theory. Thats where it sits with the far right in Britain though.

A pity that there were a few cases before this one, and the one that brought down the Labour party was Rochdale. The nation turned against the neo Marxists and they faced the sack for gross misconduct, so they sold out to try and keep their jobs and lucrative pensions.
Don't forget that the Police are looking for evidence to arrest and convict muslims who raped schoolgirls and then murdered them when they got pregnant and threatened to tell. The most famous case was Charlene Downey who was allegedly made into kebabs and sold from a dingy fast food shop in Blackpool.

And the Labour party made threats to anyone that complained about the actions of any muslims anywhere in the country. I know of fathers being warned they faced losing their jobs, homes, family and the rest of their children if they did not stop making reports to the police.

 

[Phoenall]

I think that is very valid. I also think that there is an issue with Western culture in that we have so many broken families that offer up these victims. These girls were mainly in care and vulnerable. There is a long history of children in care being abused going back to the 50s at least. There are public enquiries going on now and they will lead to more enquiries. The scope of it all is shocking. We dont look after our kids.

I don't think it's just western culture. You have similar things going on around the world - young girls are "sold", either to settle debts, because girls are deemed of little value, because the families can't afford to care for their children, or - because they are vulnerable, runaways, broken families. What's horrible is that a supposedly "legitimate" operation like what these two women ran was able to run so long unexamined, like the gang run grooming ring.

There are some really depressed communities in that part of the world and the kids are the victims.

Kidnapping of Shannon Matthews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This story sort of brings every thread together. Woman with several kids by different fathers. Now "married" to a younger man who is also a child abuser. Kidnaps her own daughter to claim reward money. she even sold t shirts with "Come home Shannon" messages. Kids from that sort of background are vulnerable to abusers and I think that it is getting worse.

Its an anecdotal piece but it does help you to understand something that normal people look at and scratch their heads over. How do you get in such a state to let your children be exploited ? Probably because you arent capable of even looking after yourself.

And it is all down to your political ideology that sees throwing money at dysfunctional people as the answer, when education and work is really the answer.

But nice duck away from the way the thread went towards neo marxism's role in mass rape of children by muslim gangs

Neo marxism ? Its a bunch of perv criminals taking advantage of neglected kids who people didnt really care about.Not least a corrupt police force and an incompetent local authority. Your desire to make it a commie plot would be laughable if it wasnt so sick. And you have no idea what my political ideology is you fucking cretin.

The perv crimianls being the neo Marxists riding high on the back of the Labour government, with a know paedophile as its leader. Caught in a joint FBI/CIA sting when he used his Parliamentary credit card to buy child porn online.

That is the labour party for you

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
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Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

Rotherham was a wake up call for the country. The whole thing was jaw dropping. Pretty much everybody comes out of it in a bad light. There are still dozens of police officers under investigation and it is certain that charges will follow.
The South Yorkshire force is probably the most corrupt in Britain.
Alongside that the labour party has a virtual fiefdom in that area and that is not a health situation.
There are a whole raft of social and cultural issues combined to let this happen and not least how we look after the vulnerable in our society. Its a shame that some would politicise it to push a narrow agenda or a loony conspiracy theory. Thats where it sits with the far right in Britain though.

AS THE vast majority of the rape ring was Pakistani, and that the reason they were able to operate so openly and for so long was primarily because of Political Correctness,

the debate should primarily be on Third World Immigration and Political Correctness.

No it shouldnt. Those are just two aspects.Family breakdowns,police corruption,police incompetence,political indifference and institutional incompetence are just as relevant. So is not giving a shit what happens to the poor in our society.
Why are kids from London shipped up to the north to put in care ? Because its cheaper to keep them there.

Youre whole thing is an anti muslim crusade and on that basis your viewpoint is of little value.

 

[Coyote]

Yes -- all the rapists were Muslim men.

You are simply a mindless fuck who has been programmed to defend them.

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

NO you are denying them because it shows that by rights you should be against islam and the muslims. How many times have we seen the reports of what is being taught in mosques all over the world, and wahabi's being the most evil.

Actually Ayeshas age is in the koran if you look, and it is just one hadith that contradicts the rest of the hadiths and the koran.





From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309

Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….

From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116

"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."

From "The History of Tabari", volume 9, page 131

"Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me"...(The Prophet) married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died.

From the Encyclopedia of Islam, under "Aisha":

"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home."







Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Aisha - WikiIslam

Aisha was Prophet Muhammad's child bride. He married her when she was six to seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years old




By the time of mo'mad very few children were married at 9 and raped, in fact most females were over the age of 12. There is a big difference between a pre pubescent girl playing with dolls and a 12 year old woman.
Another big difference is that only the muslims still believe that it is a mans right to take a pre pubescent girl as his wife, rape her, damage her so she cant bear children and then throw her away because she cant perform her duties anymore. No other religion even comes close to this barbarity and psychopathic behaviour. Not even the states in the US that allow girls of 12 to be married.

Untrue. This occurs in India, Nepal, Non-Muslim Africa as well as among non-Muslim minorities in Muslim majority countries.

As to Aisha:
Aisha - New World Encyclopedia
Hazrat Aisha's Real Age at Marriage Time - The Most Complete Explanation - Word of Power

The fact that some Muslims take an hadith, written a century after his death, so literally as a means to prey on children needs to confronted (and has been) throughout the Islamic world.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Read the report you stupid fucker. They were all in it together. You dont give a shit about these poor girls. You just want to condemn a whole religion for the actions of a few perverts.

The brothers were given access to their victims by local women MacGregor and Davies.

MacGregor, described in court as a 'mother figure', took in girls - all of whom were white - from children's homes, purporting to give them a safe haven and support.

But she allowed them to be abused and kept captive, telling them they needed to 'earn their keep' by having sex with a succession of visiting men.

She even set up a support group - Kin Kids - for family members looking after children whose parents could no longer cope - recruiting the support of her local Labour MP who took her to Westminster to discuss the issue.



Read more: Rotherham grooming gang jailed for 102 years
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Those women are just as guilty, selling girls they were purporting to "protect" to those animals.

One interesting statement from the article:

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said British Pakistanis needed to acknowledge the problem of grooming gangs operating in their communities.

He said: 'Until British Pakistanis accept that this is a problem for our community we will not be able to eradicate this evil. Burying our head in the sand as the usual response is not good enough.'​

It isn't a "Muslim" problem, it's a problem with gangs operating among the British Pakistani community that needs to be be addressed by the community in order to iradicate. It's much easier to invoke Islam however, and assume all Muslims are the same, regardless of ethnicity or country of origin.

No it is a muslim problem as not all the men were Pakistani. Some were Bangladeshi, Somali, Afghani and Iraqi. Not having lived with the problem for 15 to 20 years you are not in a position to say it was not the way it was. When the Prime Minister threatened on camera to alter UK laws so he could personally issue the arrest warrant for a political opponent who spoke out against the attacks and involvement of the Labour party.

Once again you ignore the basic teachings of islam that states all muslims MUST emulate the life and actions of mo'mad the perfect muslim. And he is known to have raped 12 year old girls on a regular basis, and consummated his marriage to a 9 year old girl. When you have that as part of the teachings that can not be removed from the religion then you have a major problem with humanity and morality.

The vast majority were Pakistani.

I'm not ignoring basic teachings - you're perverting them, same as anyone who justifies pedophilia based on a person who lived over a thousand years ago, and who's bride's age is based on only one Hadith, and contradicted by other sources.

12 was a marriagable age. Mary was 12 when she bore Jesus. Did Joseph rape her and was he a pedophile to? Things were very different then - across the board, across religions.

Rotherham was a wake up call for the country. The whole thing was jaw dropping. Pretty much everybody comes out of it in a bad light. There are still dozens of police officers under investigation and it is certain that charges will follow.
The South Yorkshire force is probably the most corrupt in Britain.
Alongside that the labour party has a virtual fiefdom in that area and that is not a health situation.
There are a whole raft of social and cultural issues combined to let this happen and not least how we look after the vulnerable in our society. Its a shame that some would politicise it to push a narrow agenda or a loony conspiracy theory. Thats where it sits with the far right in Britain though.

A pity that there were a few cases before this one, and the one that brought down the Labour party was Rochdale. The nation turned against the neo Marxists and they faced the sack for gross misconduct, so they sold out to try and keep their jobs and lucrative pensions.
Don't forget that the Police are looking for evidence to arrest and convict muslims who raped schoolgirls and then murdered them when they got pregnant and threatened to tell. The most famous case was Charlene Downey who was allegedly made into kebabs and sold from a dingy fast food shop in Blackpool.

And the Labour party made threats to anyone that complained about the actions of any muslims anywhere in the country. I know of fathers being warned they faced losing their jobs, homes, family and the rest of their children if they did not stop making reports to the police.

No you dont. You make things up to back up your hate and when it is exposed you bugger off for a while. You claimed that translation services cost ONE London hospital £4m a year when the national figure is just £3m. This is why you have no credibility. You are an anti muslim ,illuminati conspiracy nut who still talks about commies and marxists 40 years after they actually existed. You are an idiot.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I think that is very valid. I also think that there is an issue with Western culture in that we have so many broken families that offer up these victims. These girls were mainly in care and vulnerable. There is a long history of children in care being abused going back to the 50s at least. There are public enquiries going on now and they will lead to more enquiries. The scope of it all is shocking. We dont look after our kids.

I don't think it's just western culture. You have similar things going on around the world - young girls are "sold", either to settle debts, because girls are deemed of little value, because the families can't afford to care for their children, or - because they are vulnerable, runaways, broken families. What's horrible is that a supposedly "legitimate" operation like what these two women ran was able to run so long unexamined, like the gang run grooming ring.

There are some really depressed communities in that part of the world and the kids are the victims.

Kidnapping of Shannon Matthews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This story sort of brings every thread together. Woman with several kids by different fathers. Now "married" to a younger man who is also a child abuser. Kidnaps her own daughter to claim reward money. she even sold t shirts with "Come home Shannon" messages. Kids from that sort of background are vulnerable to abusers and I think that it is getting worse.

Its an anecdotal piece but it does help you to understand something that normal people look at and scratch their heads over. How do you get in such a state to let your children be exploited ? Probably because you arent capable of even looking after yourself.

And it is all down to your political ideology that sees throwing money at dysfunctional people as the answer, when education and work is really the answer.

But nice duck away from the way the thread went towards neo marxism's role in mass rape of children by muslim gangs

Neo marxism ? Its a bunch of perv criminals taking advantage of neglected kids who people didnt really care about.Not least a corrupt police force and an incompetent local authority. Your desire to make it a commie plot would be laughable if it wasnt so sick. And you have no idea what my political ideology is you fucking cretin.

The perv crimianls being the neo Marxists riding high on the back of the Labour government, with a know paedophile as its leader. Caught in a joint FBI/CIA sting when he used his Parliamentary credit card to buy child porn online.

That is the labour party for you

Perving isnt exclusive to any party.
You show me a left wing perv and I will show you a right wing perv. You are deluded if you think what you are saying is reality.

 

[koshergrl]

"What they're not showing you about the "Refugees" in Europe
VIDEO: Raw footage that should wake everyone up. This weekend the Muslim “refugees” invading Europe chanted the Islamic war cry as they stoned police at the border with Macedonia.
"But remember: It's not an invasion. And all these young men are going to make great Europeans."

(EDL) English Defence League

 

[Challenger]

Your "lack of fear" doesn't mean that it isn't rapid demographic change...

If you look at the figures population increase in the Uk last year attributable to immigrants amounted to approximately 250,000 people, which is 0.399% I'm even less worried than I was before. I would not call that "rapid". UK population increases by 500,000, official figures show - BBC News

Sexual exploitation, however IS more prevalent in some "sections of society".

Yes, the white section of society! According to 2010 figures 76% of sexual offenders are white, 7% black, 8% asian, and 9% "other" (whatever that means) Are Asians disproportionately represented in prosecutions for sex offences?

1. Surely you know that White Britions do not have a replacement birthrate so that small increase is hiding a much more rapid demographic shift?

If you are aware of that, that was kind of dishonest of you to pretend you didn't.

2. Mmm, numbers compiled by the same policies forces who ignored the rape ring for 6 years because they didn't want to focus on Asians?

1. No I didn't as it happens, a measure of how little I care about the subject, I suppose. You are right, native born women (whatever their skin colour) have babies late in life or not at all due to the demands of modern UK society. But you still haven't provided any credible figures that prove your thesis.

2. No, the Ministry of Justice. Are the figures skewed? Possibly, but then there are a disproportionate number of young Asian and African men in prison based on their overall populations in the UK and there are many factors that contribute to this; religion isn't necessarily one of them.