9/11 Conspiracy Solved?: Names, Connections, Details Exposed...

[candycorn]

Any word on what took down the light poles if it wasn't AA77?

Any chance of you explaining how AA77 took down those light poles when the FDR shows it's altitude a couple hundred feet higher??

Simple, the FDR--a sensitive instrument from a demolished aircraft is wrong. Five downed light poles can't be explained. Your turn.

 

[SAYIT]

I would imagine the precipitous rise of cancers among Ground Zero workers would provide some of the evidence you seek.

FDNY Study Confirms Rise in Cancer After 9/11 - Firehouse

There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly.
Are you really now using a US gov't agency's report to support your claims?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Any word on what took down the light poles if it wasn't AA77?

Any chance of you explaining how AA77 took down those light poles when the FDR shows it's altitude a couple hundred feet higher??

Simple, the FDR--a sensitive instrument from a demolished aircraft is wrong. Five downed light poles can't be explained. Your turn.

You mean that thing they spend DAYS looking for at aircraft crash sites around the world in order to figure out the causes of those crashes isn't reliable enough to provide correct information?

If that were the case, corndog, why the fuck do they bother putting them on the airplanes?

 

[SFC Ollie]

I would imagine the precipitous rise of cancers among Ground Zero workers would provide some of the evidence you seek.

FDNY Study Confirms Rise in Cancer After 9/11 - Firehouse

There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Define significant amounts.

 

[Mad Scientist]

There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly.
Are you really now using a US gov't agency's report to support your claims?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly. You can't read a Gov't report and get a general idea if it's B.S. or not?

Census Report = Probably Accurate.

Warren Commission = Probably Inacurate.

9/11 Report = Probably Inaccurate.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Everything that SAYIT doesn't understand or is afraid of he'll refer to as a "CT Stretch".
Study Points to WTC Cancer Link - WSJ.com

Hey shit for brains, your link does not link any radioactivity to this study..... Maybe you should read and understand things better before you make an ass out of yourself....

Let me know if you have anything half way intelligent to add...

Hey KFC Ollie (still eating), what does Radiation do to a Human?

It causes Cancers.

9/11 NUKE DEMOLITION PROOF: Firefighters Radiation Cancers ?Off the Scale? | Veterans Today

In 2007, doctors at Mt. Sinai Medical Center, which monitors World Trade Center rescue workers, noted blood cancers like multiple myeloma, which normally strikes in the 60s or 70s, were being found in relatively young officers.

Here's a little hint for KFC Ollie (Still Eating): Blood Cancers aren't caused by Concrete and Steel "rubbing together".

You know, every time you try to prove something by linking to a site edited by a CT nutjob, you lose a little bit more credibility. What am I saying, I'm sorry, you have none to lose......

 

[SAYIT]

I would imagine the precipitous rise of cancers among Ground Zero workers would provide some of the evidence you seek.

FDNY Study Confirms Rise in Cancer After 9/11 - Firehouse

There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Let's see what the USGS really found:

Dust Components

The dust samples were largely made up of a mix of materials commonly used in building construction or found in office buildings: particles of glass fibers, gypsum wallboard, concrete, paper, window glass, etc.

The dust contained higher amounts of lead, zinc, antimony, copper, and other elements of building materials than found in natural soils. The level of lead in some samples was high enough to be a potential concern.

The team also found the less dangerous variety of asbestos, chrysotile asbestos, in most samples at higher levels than what is found in urban particulate matter.

However, the team was grateful not to find amphibole asbestos — the kind generally viewed as the more dangerous, more carcinogenic form of asbestos — in any of the samples.

Even though this more dangerous form of asbestos was absent from the dust samples, the materials that were found indicated a potential health threat, and USGS scientists reported that cleanup of dusts and debris should be done with appropriate respiratory protection and dust control measures.

By combining the remotely sensed data with the lab results, the team produced a series of maps that showed the distribution of asbestos, concrete, and other materials in the dust around lower Manhattan. As one might expect, heavier materials tended to settle closer to Ground Zero, while lighter materials traveled further away.

Trying to Identify Dust in the Lungs

More recently, scientists have been trying to determine whether this dust signature can help link exposure to World Trade Center dust to respiratory problems experienced by some of the September 11 survivors and emergency responders.

In 2009, Dr. David Prezant, the chief medical officerat the Office of Medical Affairs for the New York City Fire Department, asked Meeker to examine the lung tissue of a firefighter who had developed pulmonary fibrosis. Prezant wanted to know whether particles the firefighter had inhaled as a first responder may have contributed to the disease.

Due to his disease, the firefighter had had a lung transplant, and with both a sample of lung tissue and the means to potentially identify World Trade Center dust, USGS scientists examined the tissue to see if they could demonstrate a link.

What they found was inconclusive. They found an abundance of particles in the lung tissue, but no definitive proof that any of it was dust from the World Trade Center. This lack of proof was not surprising as most glass fibers dissolve in the lungs over time, and it would be unlikely that the particles found in the lung tissue years after the event would be in the same ratios and form as the samples collected.

But this was just one sample, and as more lung tissue becomes available for testing more data may help experts to find better answers about the possible link between exposure to the dust and long-term health problems.

September 11, 2001: Studying the Dust from the World Trade Center Collapse | Science Features

 

[SFC Ollie]

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly.
Are you really now using a US gov't agency's report to support your claims?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Nelly. You can't read a Gov't report and get a general idea if it's B.S. or not?

Census Report = Probably Accurate.

Warren Commission = Probably Inacurate.

9/11 Report = Probably Inaccurate.

Because you say so? Now that's funny, where are you performing I'd like to see the rest of your act.....

 

[SAYIT]

Hey shit for brains, your link does not link any radioactivity to this study..... Maybe you should read and understand things better before you make an ass out of yourself....

Let me know if you have anything half way intelligent to add...

Hey KFC Ollie (still eating), what does Radiation do to a Human?

It causes Cancers.

9/11 NUKE DEMOLITION PROOF: Firefighters Radiation Cancers ?Off the Scale? | Veterans Today

In 2007, doctors at Mt. Sinai Medical Center, which monitors World Trade Center rescue workers, noted blood cancers like multiple myeloma, which normally strikes in the 60s or 70s, were being found in relatively young officers.

Here's a little hint for KFC Ollie (Still Eating): Blood Cancers aren't caused by Concrete and Steel "rubbing together".

You know, every time you try to prove something by linking to a site edited by a CT nutjob, you lose a little bit more credibility. What am I saying, I'm sorry, you have none to lose......

Whatever MS has must be serious and degenerative. He seemed almost normal when I joined last year but no more. Now he's another CT carnival freak.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Funny how I can't see one mention of radioactivity or uranium in that report.......

 

[SFC Ollie]

I would say we can close the book on any Nukes being used and on the Steel vaporizing.....

 

[SAYIT]

Quote=SAYIT
There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Quote=GuyPinHead
Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...
Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Funny how I can't see one mention of radioactivity or uranium in that report.......

I don't know what the source or significance of those elements would be (or the source of GP's info) or if they would be evidence of a nuclear explosion but I find it hard to believe any CT would be stupid enough to come here and post an outright lie to support his particular CT. You must have missed the part on all the radioactive material.

 

[SAYIT]

I would say we can close the book on any Nukes being used and on the Steel vaporizing.....

A British study found the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Movement to be the most durable of all time. As such, no facts will permanently close the book on any of the CT's silliness.

 

[GuyPinestra]

There's a typical CT stretch. Do you have a link which connects the increase in cancer to a 9/11 nuclear attack on the WTC, Princess?

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Let's see what the USGS really found:

Dust Components

The dust samples were largely made up of a mix of materials commonly used in building construction or found in office buildings: particles of glass fibers, gypsum wallboard, concrete, paper, window glass, etc.

The dust contained higher amounts of lead, zinc, antimony, copper, and other elements of building materials than found in natural soils. The level of lead in some samples was high enough to be a potential concern.

The team also found the less dangerous variety of asbestos, chrysotile asbestos, in most samples at higher levels than what is found in urban particulate matter.

However, the team was grateful not to find amphibole asbestos — the kind generally viewed as the more dangerous, more carcinogenic form of asbestos — in any of the samples.

Even though this more dangerous form of asbestos was absent from the dust samples, the materials that were found indicated a potential health threat, and USGS scientists reported that cleanup of dusts and debris should be done with appropriate respiratory protection and dust control measures.

By combining the remotely sensed data with the lab results, the team produced a series of maps that showed the distribution of asbestos, concrete, and other materials in the dust around lower Manhattan. As one might expect, heavier materials tended to settle closer to Ground Zero, while lighter materials traveled further away.

Trying to Identify Dust in the Lungs

More recently, scientists have been trying to determine whether this dust signature can help link exposure to World Trade Center dust to respiratory problems experienced by some of the September 11 survivors and emergency responders.

In 2009, Dr. David Prezant, the chief medical officerat the Office of Medical Affairs for the New York City Fire Department, asked Meeker to examine the lung tissue of a firefighter who had developed pulmonary fibrosis. Prezant wanted to know whether particles the firefighter had inhaled as a first responder may have contributed to the disease.

Due to his disease, the firefighter had had a lung transplant, and with both a sample of lung tissue and the means to potentially identify World Trade Center dust, USGS scientists examined the tissue to see if they could demonstrate a link.

What they found was inconclusive. They found an abundance of particles in the lung tissue, but no definitive proof that any of it was dust from the World Trade Center. This lack of proof was not surprising as most glass fibers dissolve in the lungs over time, and it would be unlikely that the particles found in the lung tissue years after the event would be in the same ratios and form as the samples collected.

But this was just one sample, and as more lung tissue becomes available for testing more data may help experts to find better answers about the possible link between exposure to the dust and long-term health problems.

September 11, 2001: Studying the Dust from the World Trade Center Collapse | Science Features

And no mention whatsoever of ANY radioactive isotopes ANYWHERE in that 'report'.

I find that rather odd, considering they exist almost EVERYWHERE in trace amounts.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Big difference between trace amounts and significant amounts.........

 

[GuyPinestra]

 

[GuyPinestra]

Big difference between trace amounts and significant amounts.........

Yep, see the graph above ^^^....

 

[SAYIT]

Here's what the USGS found in the dust of the Trade Center...

Strontium, Barium, Thorium, Cerium, Lanthanum, Yttrium and other elements were discovered in the dust and are characteristic fission products of Uranium. Even some Uranium was present in significant amounts.

Now where did all that radioactive shit come from?

Let's see what the USGS really found:

Dust Components

The dust samples were largely made up of a mix of materials commonly used in building construction or found in office buildings: particles of glass fibers, gypsum wallboard, concrete, paper, window glass, etc.

The dust contained higher amounts of lead, zinc, antimony, copper, and other elements of building materials than found in natural soils. The level of lead in some samples was high enough to be a potential concern.

The team also found the less dangerous variety of asbestos, chrysotile asbestos, in most samples at higher levels than what is found in urban particulate matter.

However, the team was grateful not to find amphibole asbestos — the kind generally viewed as the more dangerous, more carcinogenic form of asbestos — in any of the samples.

Even though this more dangerous form of asbestos was absent from the dust samples, the materials that were found indicated a potential health threat, and USGS scientists reported that cleanup of dusts and debris should be done with appropriate respiratory protection and dust control measures.

By combining the remotely sensed data with the lab results, the team produced a series of maps that showed the distribution of asbestos, concrete, and other materials in the dust around lower Manhattan. As one might expect, heavier materials tended to settle closer to Ground Zero, while lighter materials traveled further away.

Trying to Identify Dust in the Lungs

More recently, scientists have been trying to determine whether this dust signature can help link exposure to World Trade Center dust to respiratory problems experienced by some of the September 11 survivors and emergency responders.

In 2009, Dr. David Prezant, the chief medical officerat the Office of Medical Affairs for the New York City Fire Department, asked Meeker to examine the lung tissue of a firefighter who had developed pulmonary fibrosis. Prezant wanted to know whether particles the firefighter had inhaled as a first responder may have contributed to the disease.

Due to his disease, the firefighter had had a lung transplant, and with both a sample of lung tissue and the means to potentially identify World Trade Center dust, USGS scientists examined the tissue to see if they could demonstrate a link.

What they found was inconclusive. They found an abundance of particles in the lung tissue, but no definitive proof that any of it was dust from the World Trade Center. This lack of proof was not surprising as most glass fibers dissolve in the lungs over time, and it would be unlikely that the particles found in the lung tissue years after the event would be in the same ratios and form as the samples collected.

But this was just one sample, and as more lung tissue becomes available for testing more data may help experts to find better answers about the possible link between exposure to the dust and long-term health problems.

September 11, 2001: Studying the Dust from the World Trade Center Collapse | Science Features

And no mention whatsoever of ANY radioactive isotopes ANYWHERE in that 'report'.

I find that rather odd, considering they exist almost EVERYWHERE in trace amounts.

I find it odd that you post no links to the source of your "knowledge" in the matter, Princess.
The actual USGS study conflicts with your version of it. I wonder why that is?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Let's see what the USGS really found:

Dust Components

The dust samples were largely made up of a mix of materials commonly used in building construction or found in office buildings: particles of glass fibers, gypsum wallboard, concrete, paper, window glass, etc.

The dust contained higher amounts of lead, zinc, antimony, copper, and other elements of building materials than found in natural soils. The level of lead in some samples was high enough to be a potential concern.

The team also found the less dangerous variety of asbestos, chrysotile asbestos, in most samples at higher levels than what is found in urban particulate matter.

However, the team was grateful not to find amphibole asbestos — the kind generally viewed as the more dangerous, more carcinogenic form of asbestos — in any of the samples.

Even though this more dangerous form of asbestos was absent from the dust samples, the materials that were found indicated a potential health threat, and USGS scientists reported that cleanup of dusts and debris should be done with appropriate respiratory protection and dust control measures.

By combining the remotely sensed data with the lab results, the team produced a series of maps that showed the distribution of asbestos, concrete, and other materials in the dust around lower Manhattan. As one might expect, heavier materials tended to settle closer to Ground Zero, while lighter materials traveled further away.

Trying to Identify Dust in the Lungs

More recently, scientists have been trying to determine whether this dust signature can help link exposure to World Trade Center dust to respiratory problems experienced by some of the September 11 survivors and emergency responders.

In 2009, Dr. David Prezant, the chief medical officerat the Office of Medical Affairs for the New York City Fire Department, asked Meeker to examine the lung tissue of a firefighter who had developed pulmonary fibrosis. Prezant wanted to know whether particles the firefighter had inhaled as a first responder may have contributed to the disease.

Due to his disease, the firefighter had had a lung transplant, and with both a sample of lung tissue and the means to potentially identify World Trade Center dust, USGS scientists examined the tissue to see if they could demonstrate a link.

What they found was inconclusive. They found an abundance of particles in the lung tissue, but no definitive proof that any of it was dust from the World Trade Center. This lack of proof was not surprising as most glass fibers dissolve in the lungs over time, and it would be unlikely that the particles found in the lung tissue years after the event would be in the same ratios and form as the samples collected.

But this was just one sample, and as more lung tissue becomes available for testing more data may help experts to find better answers about the possible link between exposure to the dust and long-term health problems.

September 11, 2001: Studying the Dust from the World Trade Center Collapse | Science Features

And no mention whatsoever of ANY radioactive isotopes ANYWHERE in that 'report'.

I find that rather odd, considering they exist almost EVERYWHERE in trace amounts.

I find it odd that you post no links to the source of your "knowledge" in the matter, Princess.
The actual USGS study conflicts with your version of it. I wonder why that is?

Wrong, you've not even seen the complete report, just that piddling little summary that you posted. You can believe that's the be-all and end-all if you like, but you'll continue to be wrong.

Read it and weep, Princess...

http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem1/index.html

 

[SAYIT]

And no mention whatsoever of ANY radioactive isotopes ANYWHERE in that 'report'.

I find that rather odd, considering they exist almost EVERYWHERE in trace amounts.

I find it odd that you post no links to the source of your "knowledge" in the matter, Princess.
The actual USGS study conflicts with your version of it. I wonder why that is?

Wrong, you've not even seen the complete report, just that piddling little summary that you posted. You can believe that's the be-all and end-all if you like, but you'll continue to be wrong.

Read it and weep, Princess...

USGS Spectroscopy Lab - World Trade Center USGS Bulk Chemistry results

So what was the source of the previous "facts" you've posted on this subject. Why must you be embarassed into doing the right thing and providing sources for your BS? Now that you posted from the actual USGS study, can you say there is anything unusal about the presence of those elements in the 9/11 dust? Does it prove a nuke was used to bring down those buildings as you claimed? Please include credible sources and links, Princess. Thanks.