9/11 Conspiracy

[daws101]

I notice that the title of this thread is "9/11 conspiracy"
OK, was it really suicidal radical Arabs conspiring together....
or was it some other entity(s) conspiring to commit fraud on a huge scale?

lot of credible evidence for the first.
jack shit for the second....any questions?

 

[daws101]

way to dodge the subject!
so tell us, why have you disappeared so often..?

Yeah, because obviously, at least where stalker-types like you are concerned, "the subject(s)" of any and all threads are the posting activities of your chosen prey.

another non answer..

 

[SAYIT]

I notice that the title of this thread is "9/11 conspiracy"
OK, was it really suicidal radical Arabs conspiring together....
or was it some other entity(s) conspiring to commit fraud on a huge scale?

The number of people involved would have been huge and if it was a huge scale fraud then those who did it were extremely stupid. I mean, they could have destroyed those buildings without the airplanes by using bombs and then blamed it on al Qaeda. Anyway, al-Qaeda thinks the 9/11 CTs are "ridiculous":

Al-Qaida has sent a message to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking him to stop spreading conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks.

Iranian media on Wednesday reported quotes from what appears to be an article published in the latest issue of the al-Qaida English language magazine, Inspire, which described Ahmadinejad's remarks over the 11 September attacks as "ridiculous".

In his UN general assembly speech last week, Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the official version of the 2001 attacks.

"The Iranian government has professed on the tongue of its president Ahmadinejad that it does not believe that al-Qaida was behind 9/11 but rather, the US government," the article said, according to Iranian media. "So we may ask the question: why would Iran ascribe to such a ridiculous belief that stands in the face of all logic and evidence?"

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...64GwBA&usg=AFQjCNE9M6gK3m43-bLw37k_zDhxQLRpMw

 

[daws101]

All the people who would have to be involved in order to pull this massive conspiracy off...

-The Bush Administration, who failed at everything they ever did. Yet all of them and the people below are helping him cover up the largest mass murder in US history... Some of them like Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neil have come out for less.

-The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers... Why? (The twisting of these peoples’ statements for donations and DVD sales sickens me.) We have uncovered the myth about a gag order imposed on all fire fighters. Only 9/11 conspiracy sites say this. ONE person who sued Bush for not taking action before the event is ordered by the court not to speak to the media about the case. This is not imposing a gag order on the whole fire department as some of these sites claim. They are lying to cover up this mass murder by the government or the building owner. Why? They don't even know...

Conspiracy theorists bring up an article in Fire House magazine which says the fire department wanted to stop the steel from being sold in order to test the fire proofing and other non-bomb/controlled demolition related investigations. They twist the article’s context to make it seem like the firefighters questioned the idea that fire brought down the towers.

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=
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Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

-The courts for imposing a gag order [SEE above]

-The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation. Motive? None...

-The NYC port Authority who lost personnel. Motive?

-All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime. Why? Again, no answer...

-The more than 1,600 widows and widowers of 9/11 who would rather have investigations of the decisions which led to the terrorist getting away with this. They don't want to waste time investigating the mass murder of their loved ones. Even the Jersey Girls. Why? They say it's the money... [note: Whenever killing someone, pay off the relative. They won’t say anything.]

-The media (This one I almost believe) who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera. Why? No answer here either...

-The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

-Popular Mechanics who debunked these sites are also helping Bush commit the biggest mass murder in history.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html

-PBS Nova since they created a documentary explaining in detail how and why the buildings fell. None of it said bomb.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/

-Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

-NY Governor Pataki because he sold steel from the WTC for the construction of the USS New York. If the argument is the government sold the steel in order to cover up the crime then Pataki is one of the criminals.

-The NY city scrap yards because they also sold steel to China before all of it was tested. Bush would have needed to call them up and tell them to sell it before they could have investigated every beam. A task which would have taken years and years not to mention millions more. Ironically the republican Mayor Bloomberg could not be involved since he asked the scrap yards not to sell the steel on behalf of the firefighters.

-EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD who doesn't write a paper for a mainstream peer reviewed journal saying the towers were brought down and could not have fallen due to fire. If laymen can prove things just by looking at videos and reading interviews out of context, then all those structural engineers MUST be working for Bush right? Even the ones in other countries. Why? The answer they give is that the engineers don't know about Jones’ work. So in all this time no one has e-mailed Jones' work to any structural engineer?

-Structure Magazine who published a report saying the collapse of WTC 7 may have been due to one column failing.

-The liberals who don't believe the towers were brought down. (Like me) They're helping a neo-con cover-up the largest mass murder in this nation’s history. Why? No clue...

-The CIA-The FBI

-FEMA

-The American Society of Civil Engineers who have produced peer reviewed papers showing how what Conspiracy Theorists say is impossible is possible.

-NORAD

-The FAA who saw planes which conspiracy theorists say never existed.

-The Silverstein Group who they say got together with Bush to blow up the building for insurance money.

-Silverstein's Insurance Company who didn't question the collapse and paid out over 2 billion to Silverstein. Why? Conspiracy Theorists say the insurance company just wants to pass on the bill to the public but they already fought Silverstein in a number of law suits concerning the amount.

-American Airlines (Pentagon)

-United Airlines (Pentagon)

-Logan, Newark and Dulles Airport for losing the planes -Scientists and engineers who developed the remote control plane technology

-Installers of the remote control devices in the planes (Pentagon)

-Remote controllers of the planes (Pentagon)

-Scientists and engineers who developed the new demolition technology and carried out practical tests and computer models to make sure it would work.

-Installers of the demolitions devices in the three buildings

-People who worked at the company(s) the installers used as cover

-Airphone etc employees who said they got calls from passengers (Pentagon)

-Faux friends and relatives of the faux passengers or just the faux relatives who claim to have been called by their loved ones or just the psyops who fooled relatives into thinking they really were their loved ones. (Pentagon)

-People who detonated the buildings"

-anyone who thinks the conspiracy is a diversion to take liberal activist focus off of real crimes.

Even conspiracies with a few people are doomed. Look at Enron and Watergate. The more people you involve, the more likely the conspiracy will fall apart. The amount of people needed for this conspiracy could fill one of the towers. It's absurd to think this many people could keep a mass murder for Bush secret for this long. Absurd...

Update:

A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called 9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.


Debunking 9 11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Myths - Massive Conspiracy

 

[n0spam4me]

add to your list of co-conspirators YOU personally
because you refuse to see the evidence that is right in front of your face,
the problem is one of psychological warfare.

 

[Blakeblaker4]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

 

[n0spam4me]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

 

[Blakeblaker4]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

 

[n0spam4me]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

We really need to look at this in a compartmentalized way.
There is the Physical evidence compartment,
and then there is the search for suspects compartment
and then there is the why was it done compartment

ALL of these bits can, and indeed must be considered independent of all the others to avoid confusion. I consider the physical evidence compartment first & foremost and when considering the facts of the physical actions, as it only serves to create unnecessary noise, that is to speculate on who may have done it and why. Can you focus on the physical aspect of the events? This is were the real meat of the matter can be had with what is available right now.

BTW: how much looking into this have you already done, I notice by your profile, you would have been 5 years old at the time, so you probably do not have memories of actually watching the news and parsing out what you saw.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

way to dodge the subject!
so tell us, why have you disappeared so often..?

Yeah, because obviously, at least where stalker-types like you are concerned, "the subject(s)" of any and all threads are the posting activities of your chosen prey.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

BOTH.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I notice that the title of this thread is "9/11 conspiracy"
OK, was it really suicidal radical Arabs conspiring together....
That there WOULD be a conspiracy THEORY.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I notice that the title of this thread is "9/11 conspiracy"
OK, was it really suicidal radical Arabs conspiring together..

edit out.double post.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I notice that the title of this thread is "9/11 conspiracy"
OK, was it really suicidal radical Arabs conspiring together....

that there WOULD be a conspiracy THEORY.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

add to your list of co-conspirators YOU personally
because you refuse to see the evidence that is right in front of your face,
the problem is one of psychological warfare.

yep,this paid shill is doing what his handlers instruct him to do,refuse to look at the evidence and facts.lol

 

[daws101]

handjob slipped his restraints again....

 

[Blakeblaker4]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

We really need to look at this in a compartmentalized way.
There is the Physical evidence compartment,
and then there is the search for suspects compartment
and then there is the why was it done compartment

ALL of these bits can, and indeed must be considered independent of all the others to avoid confusion. I consider the physical evidence compartment first & foremost and when considering the facts of the physical actions, as it only serves to create unnecessary noise, that is to speculate on who may have done it and why. Can you focus on the physical aspect of the events? This is were the real meat of the matter can be had with what is available right now.

BTW: how much looking into this have you already done, I notice by your profile, you would have been 5 years old at the time, so you probably do not have memories of actually watching the news and parsing out what you saw.

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

We really need to look at this in a compartmentalized way.
There is the Physical evidence compartment,
and then there is the search for suspects compartment
and then there is the why was it done compartment

ALL of these bits can, and indeed must be considered independent of all the others to avoid confusion. I consider the physical evidence compartment first & foremost and when considering the facts of the physical actions, as it only serves to create unnecessary noise, that is to speculate on who may have done it and why. Can you focus on the physical aspect of the events? This is were the real meat of the matter can be had with what is available right now.

BTW: how much looking into this have you already done, I notice by your profile, you would have been 5 years old at the time, so you probably do not have memories of actually watching the news and parsing out what you saw.

I've looked into it because of the class i'm in and in high school I did a powerpoint over it for history, but you are right i was five years old i don't have a lot of seeing it happen memories I only remember the little things like my parents crying and seeing the smoke on my television. But as far as watching it with my own eyes and getting thoughts on the situation right when it happened no i didn't because i was too young.

 

[SAYIT]

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

We really need to look at this in a compartmentalized way.
There is the Physical evidence compartment,
and then there is the search for suspects compartment
and then there is the why was it done compartment

ALL of these bits can, and indeed must be considered independent of all the others to avoid confusion. I consider the physical evidence compartment first & foremost and when considering the facts of the physical actions, as it only serves to create unnecessary noise, that is to speculate on who may have done it and why. Can you focus on the physical aspect of the events? This is were the real meat of the matter can be had with what is available right now.

BTW: how much looking into this have you already done, I notice by your profile, you would have been 5 years old at the time, so you probably do not have memories of actually watching the news and parsing out what you saw.

Hi, i'm currently in a conspiracy theory class and the theory i chose is 9/11. I was first wondering what your thoughts on the matter is and what you think happened. Secondly I was wondering if you could be nice enough to link where you are finding your information on the topic, so that i can go in and continue my own research.

Here is my take on the subject:
the info available from the "newsreels" of the day
that is the Evan Fairbanks Video ( and others that actually show the south wall of the south tower ) Note that the airliner penetrates as if the wall were made of cardboard.

Also the "newsreel" of WTC7 collapsing in a manner that even the news commentators described as being just like when you see a building destroyed intentionally.

Note also the "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON is a total farce, given the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck the building, and the lack of wreckage outside the Pentagon, this one is so totally obvious as to be an insult to all thinking beings.

So you defiantly think that someones behind something but who? Do you think it was the government? Or was someone else behind the scenes to make a pretty hefty cash out? Then if it was planned why did they plan it to get more control over us via airports bugging phones etc. or was it to ignite the war over in Iraq because they knew how americans would react?

We really need to look at this in a compartmentalized way.
There is the Physical evidence compartment,
and then there is the search for suspects compartment
and then there is the why was it done compartment

ALL of these bits can, and indeed must be considered independent of all the others to avoid confusion. I consider the physical evidence compartment first & foremost and when considering the facts of the physical actions, as it only serves to create unnecessary noise, that is to speculate on who may have done it and why. Can you focus on the physical aspect of the events? This is were the real meat of the matter can be had with what is available right now.

BTW: how much looking into this have you already done, I notice by your profile, you would have been 5 years old at the time, so you probably do not have memories of actually watching the news and parsing out what you saw.

I've looked into it because of the class i'm in and in high school I did a powerpoint over it for history, but you are right i was five years old i don't have a lot of seeing it happen memories I only remember the little things like my parents crying and seeing the smoke on my television. But as far as watching it with my own eyes and getting thoughts on the situation right when it happened no i didn't because i was too young.

A cottage industry (selling DVDs and t-shirts) grew up based on the 9/11 attack known as the 9/11 "Truth" Movement. It was fueled by ambitious but often unscrupulous hucksters who used social media to prey, much as ISIS does today, on impressionable young minds. Most of those young minds grew up and escaped the clutches of the hucksters but a few, intoxicated by the sense of "power" and "belonging" their involvement gave them, remain frozen in the headlights. It is best to view that movement and the damage it caused both from the inside - any number of 9/11 CT websites remain - and the outside, where 9/11 CT debunking websites and the testimonies of those who escaped are readily available.

9 11 conspiracy theories - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[n0spam4me]

The fact that anybody may be making a buck from selling the DVD's & T Shirts is offered up as a reason why 9/11 was the product of 19 suicidal Arabs hijacking airliners ( etc.... ) PLEASE do examine the evidence here.
The fact that any given "truther" web-page may or may not be run by crooks, is NOT proof of anything. The evidence in the physics alleged to have happened at the time is compelling, the whole 19 suicidal Arabs story is bogus.

 

[SAYIT]

The fact that anybody may be making a buck from selling the DVD's & T Shirts is offered up as a reason why 9/11 was the product of 19 suicidal Arabs hijacking airliners ( etc.... ) PLEASE do examine the evidence here.
The fact that any given "truther" web-page may or may not be run by crooks, is NOT proof of anything. The evidence in the physics alleged to have happened at the time is compelling, the whole 19 suicidal Arabs story is bogus.

Like many here I have examined the "Truther" evidence and find it not only specious but also that your multiple and conveniently lengthy disappearances when your pseudoscience was challenged by Gamelon to be most revealing. You are a coward and a fraud, Spammy and those are worms you can never put back in their can.