911 Anniversary--are we safer now?

[Moonglow]

We don't even live on a planet that is safe, not to mention the stuff from outer space.

 

[MarcATL]

safety is a myth

 

[hortysir]

safety is a myth

(almost)

 

[Surfer]

On this day 12 years ago vile, demonic Muslimes changed the world as we know it. Muslimes attacked us on our own soil with our own planes. Muslimes killed/injured more than 10,000 innocent Americans, took down 2 buildings and severely damaged others. This is the face of Islam. Eradicate it. Yesterday...

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

 

[MisterBeale]

safety is a myth

BULLSHIT. We were always safe. People need to quit watching their god damned TV's! The media is the problem. Always scarring the shit out of people, giving the government cover to strip them of their civil rights and civil liberties. Terrorism was NEVER a problem for us. We have only been brain washed and conditioned to believe it has been. This has been done to take away our freedom.

Startling fact:

Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by terrorists: 3.

Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by toddlers: 5.​

– You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

– You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

— You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

— You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

— You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

– You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

–You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

–You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

– You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

 

[Surfer]

... We were always safe...

Yeah, tell that to the 10,000 injured/killed when your filthy Muslime friends attacked us 911.
Tell that to the innocent victims of the dirty Muslimes at the Boston Marathon.
Tell the 40+ injured by Muslime Ft. Hood mass murderer Nidal Hasan.
Tell the victims of the MD sniper.

You're a stupid, fcking fckwit.

List of Islamic Terror Attacks in America

Muslimes. Working for Allah. One dead body at a time...

 

[MisterBeale]

... We were always safe...

Yeah, tell that to the 10,000 injured/killed when your filthy Muslime friends attacked us 911.
Tell that to the innocent victims of the dirty Muslimes at the Boston Marathon.
Tell the 40+ injured by Muslime Ft. Hood mass murderer Nidal Hasan.
Tell the victims of the MD sniper.

You're a stupid, fcking fckwit.

List of Islamic Terror Attacks in America

Muslimes. Working for Allah. One dead body at a time...

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[Surfer]

 

[Claudette]

I think we are somewhat safer but not totally.

Hell. The FBI and the CIA still play their little games. They don't pass on info or share intelligence any better now then they did before 9/11. Game they play.

Homeland Security is a joke.

They have caught a few idiots but only because those folks are, well, idiots.

 

[Surfer]

We are not safer now and will not be until the people rise up against all those who are here causing death, destruction, violence, trouble...

 

[Darkwind]

safety is a myth

BULLSHIT. We were always safe. People need to quit watching their god damned TV's! The media is the problem. Always scarring the shit out of people, giving the government cover to strip them of their civil rights and civil liberties. Terrorism was NEVER a problem for us. We have only been brain washed and conditioned to believe it has been. This has been done to take away our freedom.

Startling fact:

Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by terrorists: 3.

Number of persons killed on American soil so far this year by toddlers: 5.​

– You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

– You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

— You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

— You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

— You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

– You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

–You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

–You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

–You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

– You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

Do you even know the difference between passive and active?

 

[Darkwind]

I have news for you people, particularly the progressives.

Life IS NOT safe. It never has been.

That does not mean that you just allow whatever to happen to you without fighting back.

We can never be totally safe. But as long as we are aware of the dangers, actions can be taken to reduce the danger.

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera.

Don't look to be safe. Look to be informed of where the danger is accumulating.

 

[Surfer]

911 Memorial live feed:

9/11 anniversary to be marked with somber tributes

 

[MisterBeale]

If the risk of being killed by a terrorist were added to the list, the dot would be so small that it would be hard to see. Specifically, the risk of being killed by terrorism in 2008 was 14 times smaller than being killed by fireworks.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/08/president-obama-the-odds-of-dying-in-a-terrorist-attack-are-a-lot-lower-than-they-are-of-dying-in-a-car-accident.html


How Scared of Terrorism Should You Be?
Not very. You are four times more likely to be killed by a lightning bolt than by a terror attack.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/06/how-scared-of-terrorism-should

How many Americans have been killed in terrorist attacks inside the United States since the September 11, 2001, atrocities? Arguably 16. Egyptian Hesham Mohamed Hadayet killed two Israelis at the El Al ticket counter at the Los Angeles airport on July 4, 2002. On June 1, 2009, Abdulhakim Muhammed killed one soldier at a recruiting center in Little Rock, Arkansas, and Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan killed 13 soldiers during a shooting rampage in at Fort Hood, Texas in November 2009.

I'm beginning to think posters in this thread are some sort of moles or plants. Their sources are fictitious at best, deceitful at worst. Most scare mongering tactics filled with hate. Not all Muslims are evil, are they? Not everyone from the middle East are America's enemy, are they?

The information being spread in this thread is mostly fabrication and lies. We were never at risk, there was never a real threat, and any threat that there was, our government MADE. We trained them, we placed and allowed inside this nation. Even now, our southern border is as porous as a sieve. We used the CIA the NSA and our alliances with other covert intelligence agencies to carry on a clandestine war in Iran. Well folks, it seems that Iran is preparing to do the same through our southern border now. But our corporate and industrial class wants that border porous so that we can have an unlimited supply of cheap illegal foreign workers coming in.

So, two choices. Either get rid of minimum wage so the corporate classes won't oppose locking down the border. Or crack down on the corporate-industrial classes we can root out the corruption in D.C. and lock down the border before that Drug War is infiltrated by the Iranians and spills over into the Southwest in the form of a REAL retaliatory clandestine terror war.

Since 2001 we have had only 16 deaths. When Iran decides to become actives, we will know.

 

[Surfer]

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera

Bull. It's to honor the victims and discuss if we are safer. We are not. We never will be as long as we have demonic Muslimes here.

 

[Darkwind]

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera

Bull. It's to honor the victims and discuss if we are safer. We are not. We never will be as long as we have demonic Muslimes here.

You haven't been safe since the day you were conceived. To even think that you ever could be is nonsense and a silly position to take.

You do not honor anyone by making ludicrous claims that we have failed to make ourselves safer. The goal was never to make us safer.

It was to make us aware and to exact justice for evil deeds committed.

You want to be safe? Go check into a mental hospital and take up residence in a rubber room.

 

[MarcATL]

I have news for you people, particularly the progressives.

Life IS NOT safe. It never has been.

That does not mean that you just allow whatever to happen to you without fighting back.

We can never be totally safe. But as long as we are aware of the dangers, actions can be taken to reduce the danger.

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera.

Don't look to be safe. Look to be informed of where the danger is accumulating.

I would have thanked and even repped you for this, but you had to say "especially for the progressives" when it NEVER has been us Progressives spewing this "Safety" nonsense.

Bushh II totally took advantage of the situation and ramped up fear and the need for safety to ram all sorts of unConstitutional policies down our throats. The entire Republican Party fully backed him while it went on.

You know this.

 

[MarcATL]

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera

Bull. It's to honor the victims and discuss if we are safer. We are not. We never will be as long as we have demonic Muslimes here.

You haven't been safe since the day you were conceived. To even think that you ever could be is nonsense and a silly position to take.

You do not honor anyone by making ludicrous claims that we have failed to make ourselves safer. The goal was never to make us safer.

It was to make us aware and to exact justice for evil deeds committed.

You want to be safe? Go check into a mental hospital and take up residence in a rubber room.

The poster known as "Surfer" is not a progressive Darkwind, he's more of a far RW radical reactionary than anything else.

Just an FYI.

 

[Darkwind]

I have news for you people, particularly the progressives.

Life IS NOT safe. It never has been.

That does not mean that you just allow whatever to happen to you without fighting back.

We can never be totally safe. But as long as we are aware of the dangers, actions can be taken to reduce the danger.

The entire premise of the thread is just so much chimera.

Don't look to be safe. Look to be informed of where the danger is accumulating.

I would have thanked and even repped you for this, but you had to say "especially for the progressives" when it NEVER has been us Progressives spewing this "Safety" nonsense.

Bushh II totally took advantage of the situation and ramped up fear and the need for safety to ram all sorts of unConstitutional policies down our throats. The entire Republican Party fully backed him while it went on.

You know this.

He did no such thing, and THIS you know.

Bush was always about exacting revenge for the groups who did this, and the nations that allowed them to thrive.

All sides promoted fear, but those on the right that I associated with talked justice and teaching.

Teaching things we always knew. There are people in the world who hate us, and when you want to try to make friends with them, try to understand them, try to put some kind of moral equivalency to their position, you just set yourself up for death.

It was never the right that said that the other side had a point of view worth considering. It still isn't.

They hate us for our wealth and our religion. They will always hate us for these two things.

Drop the bullshit about being safe. It is chimera.

Talk about being active to stop them, kill them, cage them, or brainwash them. Never think that we will ever be safe.

 

[Darkwind]

Bull. It's to honor the victims and discuss if we are safer. We are not. We never will be as long as we have demonic Muslimes here.

You haven't been safe since the day you were conceived. To even think that you ever could be is nonsense and a silly position to take.

You do not honor anyone by making ludicrous claims that we have failed to make ourselves safer. The goal was never to make us safer.

It was to make us aware and to exact justice for evil deeds committed.

You want to be safe? Go check into a mental hospital and take up residence in a rubber room.

The poster known as "Surfer" is not a progressive Darkwind, he's more of a far RW radical reactionary than anything else.

Just an FYI.

Just for your information. I don't have a side.

Wrong is wrong.