97% of climatologists believe in man-made global warming

[Chris]

So your graph shows that sea ice is WELL BELOW the 1979 level.

Thanks for proving my point! You are the best!

 

[jreeves]

So your graph shows that sea ice is WELL BELOW the 1979 level.

Thanks for proving my point! You are the best!

They have fluttered back and forth...and are currently at 1979 levels....you are trip...Chrissy pants
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.

Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?

 

[Chris]

But the graph you posted has current sea ice levels below 16 million square miles.

The sea ice now is WELL BELOW the 1979 level according to the graph YOU POSTED!

 

[Meister]

Chris....your a "one trick pony."

 

[Chris]

jreeves is the best.

He posts a graph which disproves what he is saying.

 

[jreeves]

jreeves is the best.

He posts a graph which disproves what he is saying.

I posted a graph that showed Ice levels at the same levels they were in 1979 and with ice levels quite greater than what they were in 1984, 1993, 1996 and 1998. Now a quick question if ice levels have rebounded anywhere close to what they were in 1979 and greater than the levels recorded in 1984, 1993, 1996 and 1998. What is the reason for this have CO2 concentrations dropped? No, this is the reason the theory of man made global warming is just a myth.
Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.

Such disparities raise several questions concerning the reliability of such computer models of the climate.

 

[Chris]

The graph you posted puts the 1979 low at 16 million square miles.
The same graph puts the current sea ice level at 15.5 million.

500,000 square miles less....

Of course ARCTIC ice levels have dropped by about 10% each decade since 1979. Antarctic levels are starting to drop, but some scientists think they may rise because the warming of the Antarctic is forcing land ice into the ocean.

In any case you have no real data on your side. Even Exxon no longer denies global warming!

 

[jreeves]

jreeves is the best.

He posts a graph which disproves what he is saying.

I posted a graph that showed Ice levels at the same levels they were in 1979 and with ice levels quite greater than what they were in 1984, 1993, 1996 and 1998. Now a quick question if ice levels have rebounded anywhere close to what they were in 1979 and greater than the levels recorded in 1984, 1993, 1996 and 1998. What is the reason for this have CO2 concentrations dropped? No, this is the reason the theory of man made global warming is just a myth.
Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.

Such disparities raise several questions concerning the reliability of such computer models of the climate.

While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.


Of course if the facts aren't on your side play dumb....good job Chrissy pants

 

[Chris]

The graph you posted puts the 1979 low at 16 million square miles.
The same graph puts the current sea ice level at 15.5 million.

500,000 square miles less....

Of course ARCTIC ice levels have dropped by about 10% each decade since 1979. Antarctic levels are starting to drop, but some scientists think they may rise because the warming of the Antarctic is forcing land ice into the ocean.

In any case you have no real data on your side. Even Exxon no longer denies global warming!

 

[jreeves]

The graph you posted puts the 1979 low at 16 million square miles.
The same graph puts the current sea ice level at 15.5 million.

500,000 square miles less....

Of course ARCTIC ice levels have dropped by about 10% each decade since 1979. Antarctic levels are starting to drop, but some scientists think they may rise because the warming of the Antarctic is forcing land ice into the ocean.

In any case you have no real data on your side. Even Exxon no longer denies global warming!

Repeating a lie, doesn't make it true....
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.
Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?

 

[KittenKoder]

Exxon is trying to make money, like most companies that pander to environuts. They pick the side that will increase profits the most because environuts are well ... nuts. They think "Oh, at least they will do something with the money to protect the environment" and still over use the product that does the damage, in the mean time the company just uses the profits to expand their business and line their pockets. Why does this work? Because environuts do NOT like whole stories, they look for one tiny thing to latch onto so they can sleep easier feeling "at least I did something."

 

[Old Rocks]

The graph you posted puts the 1979 low at 16 million square miles.
The same graph puts the current sea ice level at 15.5 million.

500,000 square miles less....

Of course ARCTIC ice levels have dropped by about 10% each decade since 1979. Antarctic levels are starting to drop, but some scientists think they may rise because the warming of the Antarctic is forcing land ice into the ocean.

In any case you have no real data on your side. Even Exxon no longer denies global warming!

Repeating a lie, doesn't make it true....
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.
Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?

The sea ice at the North Polar Cap is less than it was in the record low year of 2007. The Antarctic Sea Ice, while important, is far less important than the North Polar Ice because of the feedback effects of the permafrost CH4 and CO2, as well as the Arctic Ocean clathrates.

Both the Greenland Ice Cap, and the Antarctic Ice Cap are losing volume at an increasing rate every year. The Sea Ice arround Antarctica is transitory, and neither adds nor subtracts from the rising sea level as does the melting of the Antarctic Ice Cap.

 

[jreeves]

The graph you posted puts the 1979 low at 16 million square miles.
The same graph puts the current sea ice level at 15.5 million.

500,000 square miles less....

Of course ARCTIC ice levels have dropped by about 10% each decade since 1979. Antarctic levels are starting to drop, but some scientists think they may rise because the warming of the Antarctic is forcing land ice into the ocean.

In any case you have no real data on your side. Even Exxon no longer denies global warming!

Repeating a lie, doesn't make it true....
While global sea ice extent has only been measured with high resolution since 1979, the recent increase in sea ice coverage now puts the start of 2009 in the same place as the year when records started: 1979.
Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?

The sea ice at the North Polar Cap is less than it was in the record low year of 2007. The Antarctic Sea Ice, while important, is far less important than the North Polar Ice because of the feedback effects of the permafrost CH4 and CO2, as well as the Arctic Ocean clathrates.

Both the Greenland Ice Cap, and the Antarctic Ice Cap are losing volume at an increasing rate every year. The Sea Ice arround Antarctica is transitory, and neither adds nor subtracts from the rising sea level as does the melting of the Antarctic Ice Cap.

Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?
While much of the northern hemisphere sea ice melting has been relatively well-handled by global climate models, the antarctic ice expansion has been under-resolved by the models. Such disparities raise several questions concerning the reliability of such computer models of the climate.

The reason total sea ice levels are important....

 

[Old Rocks]

JR, the models are less important than what nature is actually doing. The models predict that Antarctica should be gaining ice, not losing it. The models did not predict the level of North Polar Cap melt that we are seeing until 2050. In fact, nature seems to be determined to prove the models way too conservative.

 

[jreeves]

JR, the models are less important than what nature is actually doing. The models predict that Antarctica should be gaining ice, not losing it. The models did not predict the level of North Polar Cap melt that we are seeing until 2050. In fact, nature seems to be determined to prove the models way too conservative.

Meteorology News » Features » Global Sea Ice on the Rebound?
Early in the northern hemisphere summer, the rate of sea ice melt painted a grim picture of the upcoming winter season. Some even predicted that there would be enough open water that one could sail to the north pole. Such predictions failed when the seasonal sea ice minimum was reached on September 12, 2008 and the arctic was still covered by 1.74 million square miles of ice. Since mid-September, arctic sea ice has been growing in response to the normal seasonal cooling.

While the rate of ice growth has since slowed from the near-record rates of October and November, the NSIDC data points to a logical conclusion: The polar ice is simply running out of physical room to expand as the surface area of open water shrinks as ice fills it. While the rate has slowed over the last month, the rapid early season growth meant that the arctic has experienced a greater extent of sea ice than most of the 2007-08 winter season. The recent slowing in growth now puts this season roughly on par with last year at this time with roughly 13 million square kilometers of ice covering the region.

Come on now things aren't that bad....

 

[Old Rocks]

January 2009 average extent compared to past Januaries

Average ice extent for January 2009 was the sixth lowest in the satellite record. January 2006 had the lowest ice extent for the month; January 2005 claims second place; and January 2007 is in third place. Including 2009, the downward linear trend in January ice extent stands at -3.1% per decade.
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

 

[jreeves]

January 2009 average extent compared to past Januaries

Average ice extent for January 2009 was the sixth lowest in the satellite record. January 2006 had the lowest ice extent for the month; January 2005 claims second place; and January 2007 is in third place. Including 2009, the downward linear trend in January ice extent stands at -3.1% per decade.
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

So in other words, Jan. 09 was better than Jan. 05 or Jan. 06 even though CO2 emmissions have increased drastically. Go figure......

 

[Chris]

January 2009 average extent compared to past Januaries

Average ice extent for January 2009 was the sixth lowest in the satellite record. January 2006 had the lowest ice extent for the month; January 2005 claims second place; and January 2007 is in third place. Including 2009, the downward linear trend in January ice extent stands at -3.1% per decade.
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

So in other words, Jan. 09 was better than Jan. 05 or Jan. 06 even though CO2 emmissions have increased drastically. Go figure......

We are at the bottom of the solar cycle and the Southern Oscillation.

You can read about it at this link....

Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation

 

[jreeves]

January 2009 average extent compared to past Januaries

Average ice extent for January 2009 was the sixth lowest in the satellite record. January 2006 had the lowest ice extent for the month; January 2005 claims second place; and January 2007 is in third place. Including 2009, the downward linear trend in January ice extent stands at -3.1% per decade.
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

So in other words, Jan. 09 was better than Jan. 05 or Jan. 06 even though CO2 emmissions have increased drastically. Go figure......

We are at the bottom of the solar cycle and the Southern Oscillation.

You can read about it at this link....

Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation

From your article...Chrissy pants...
Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation
Solar irradiance will still be on or near its flat-bottomed minimum in 2008.

Which means, the solar cycle would be on the upcycle in 2009, yet more ice cover in 2009 than 2008. Despite an increased CO2 concentration.

 

[Chris]

So in other words, Jan. 09 was better than Jan. 05 or Jan. 06 even though CO2 emmissions have increased drastically. Go figure......

We are at the bottom of the solar cycle and the Southern Oscillation.

You can read about it at this link....

Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation

From your article...Chrissy pants...
Data @ NASA GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: 2007 Summation
Solar irradiance will still be on or near its flat-bottomed minimum in 2008.

Which means, the solar cycle would be on the upcycle in 2009, yet more ice cover in 2009 than 2008. Despite an increased CO2 concentration.

Not necessarily.