9th Circus Makes Ground Breaking Ruling On Guns

[Brain357]

Read more here (I need to credit where I read it)

Ace of Spades HQ

Ninth Circuit Appeals Court: If Hawaii Restricts Citizens' Ability to Carry Concealed, Then There Must Be An Absolute Right to OpenCarry
—Ace of Spades
Huge ruling.

Hawaii sharply limits who can carry concealed -- basically, only people who have jobs in security and law enforcement can carry concealed.

The Ninth Circuit -- not the whole Ninth Circuit, which is a leftwing clownshow, but two of the three judges selected randomly to review the lower court's ruling here -- rules that people have the right to carry firearms (quoting the Supreme Court's MacDonald decision), and if the right to carry concealed is restricted by a state, that must mean that the other method of carrying, open carry, is absolute.

The court rules that the "right to keep and bear arms" is actually two rights: to "keep" arms is about storing arms on physical property, but to bear arms is to carry arms on one's person.

And it rules that Hawaii may not leave citizens with no way of exercising this latter right.

WINNER!!!

People being able to defend themselves... bad news for criminals/leftists.

Funny. With all our guns our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.

Freedom isnt free.
If it was, it would always be available.

Lots of free countries have fewer guns and lower homicide rates.

And they dont have the freedom to own badass weapons.
I would rather stay here.
Why dont you move there instead of trying to change my culture and shit on my constitution?

Awe so you need big weapons to feel like a man. Cute.

 

[Gracie]

I still say everyone not with a record (criminal) should be allowed to carry...openly. Go back to Wild West days. I am a senior....times are not safe anymore. I want to be able to protect myself. There would be less robberies, murders, etc if law abiding citizens were seen to be carrying. Would any of you think twice about punching someone or grabbing their purse if that person had a gun holstered? Yep. If you aren't totally stupid...yes, you would think twice.

 

[Gracie]

WINNER!!!

People being able to defend themselves... bad news for criminals/leftists.

Funny. With all our guns our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.

Freedom isnt free.
If it was, it would always be available.

Lots of free countries have fewer guns and lower homicide rates.

And they dont have the freedom to own badass weapons.
I would rather stay here.
Why dont you move there instead of trying to change my culture and shit on my constitution?

Awe so you need big weapons to feel like a man. Cute.

Personally speaking...awe..I need a big weapon to feel SAFE.

 

[TNHarley]

WINNER!!!

People being able to defend themselves... bad news for criminals/leftists.

Funny. With all our guns our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.

Freedom isnt free.
If it was, it would always be available.

Lots of free countries have fewer guns and lower homicide rates.

And they dont have the freedom to own badass weapons.
I would rather stay here.
Why dont you move there instead of trying to change my culture and shit on my constitution?

Awe so you need big weapons to feel like a man. Cute.

No, my dick does that.
Do badass things make you feel like a man? Are you projecting? I just like to have fun.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I see the homicide rates goes down after we got background checks.

and concealed weapons permits

 

[Brain357]

Funny. With all our guns our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.

Freedom isnt free.
If it was, it would always be available.

Lots of free countries have fewer guns and lower homicide rates.

And they dont have the freedom to own badass weapons.
I would rather stay here.
Why dont you move there instead of trying to change my culture and shit on my constitution?

Awe so you need big weapons to feel like a man. Cute.

Personally speaking...awe..I need a big weapon to feel SAFE.

All these guns and our homicide rate is 4-5x higher than countries with strong gun control. While you feel safer, clearly you are not.

 

[jc456]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

try Chicago, how are the gun laws there? do you even know?

 

[Brain357]

Funny. With all our guns our homicide rate is 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control.

Freedom isnt free.
If it was, it would always be available.

Lots of free countries have fewer guns and lower homicide rates.

And they dont have the freedom to own badass weapons.
I would rather stay here.
Why dont you move there instead of trying to change my culture and shit on my constitution?

Awe so you need big weapons to feel like a man. Cute.

No, my dick does that.
Do badass things make you feel like a man? Are you projecting? I just like to have fun.

I don’t need things to be a man. And I would rather fewer died than I have fun. You might feel the same when you grow up.

 

[Brain357]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

try Chicago, how are the gun laws there? do you even know?

They have concealed carry.

 

[hazlnut]

There are no “abolute rights” . All rights have limits .

What does "Congress shall make no law" mean?

What does Anton Scalia mean when he wrote --

District of Columbia v Heller - Justice Scalia




Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.

NOT UNLIMITED....

 

[jc456]

What does "Congress shall make no law" mean?

What does “ well regulated” mean . If u want to cherry pick lines .

Hawaii ain’t congress by the way.

At the time the Constitution was written, it meant that a persons property should ready to roll. Properly maintained.
Not well regulated like the statists like to imagine.
Try again

Ok how about “militia “?

Geez . I agree we have a right to guns but don’t act as if the 2nd says “guns for everybody ! The government can’t do nothing about it !”

As long as it isnt impeding on someone else, what should they do about it?
Does the Constitution mean things it doesnt actually say?
Do you think its a metaphor or something?

Is this where u are a strict constitutionalist except when you don’t want to?

Strictly reading the 2nd it means we need an armed people for the army . Of course we have a standing army now . You could easily say only guard/military members have a right to own guns .

that isn't the interpretation and the SCOTUS has already ruled on it. stop wasting everyone's time with your hissy fits.

 

[depotoo]

Over all it has
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Chicago-Illinois.html

And 97% of murders were from illegally purchased guns. All other crime is down. The threat of a gun helps reduce crime.

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

You think crime went down in Chicago? Too funny!

 

[jc456]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

States with carry laws have lower rates.

Which ones have lower homicide rates than Hawaii?

serious? LOL

 

[OODA_Loop]

What does Anton Scalia mean when he wrote --

District of Columbia v Heller - Justice Scalia

See: Common use in Heller

 

[jc456]

Over all it has
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Chicago-Illinois.html

And 97% of murders were from illegally purchased guns. All other crime is down. The threat of a gun helps reduce crime.

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

You think crime went down in Chicago? Too funny!

guess where the McDonald dude lived? Yep Chicago, you know why he filed his lawsuit? He wanted to protect his family from the gun laws of Chicago. Yeppers, so stop all your peeing on the constitution and stfu.

 

[Brain357]

Over all it has
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Chicago-Illinois.html

And 97% of murders were from illegally purchased guns. All other crime is down. The threat of a gun helps reduce crime.

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

You think crime went down in Chicago? Too funny!

If they were the case we’d have the lowest crime rates in the world! Don’t be so dumb.

 

[jc456]

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

You think crime went down in Chicago? Too funny!

it did. you should look it up daisy.

 

[jc456]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

try Chicago, how are the gun laws there? do you even know?

They have concealed carry.

they do now, yes sir thank god gun crimes went down. McDonald was a resident of Chicago when he filed guess why? You leftist fks should really read before you make fools of yourself like this.

 

[Brain357]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

States with carry laws have lower rates.

Which ones have lower homicide rates than Hawaii?

serious? LOL

Which ones?

 

[Bush92]

There are no “abolute rights” . All rights have limits .

Exception being natural right of being born free men and women.