9th Circus Makes Ground Breaking Ruling On Guns

[TNHarley]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

I prefer freedom. I will always prefer freedom.

 

[depotoo]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

States with carry laws have lower rates.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No right is absolute: it can be changed by Congress (if permissible, Amendment, or by SCOTUS. The rump tribunal of the 9th CC ruled correctly in my sense of the 2dA's languague. We have a right to bear arms. If we can't carry conceal, that we can open carry legally.

I image the full 9th CC bench will re-hear the findings and overturn them.

Hillary lost, Jake. You and your ilk don't get to appoint the 5th gun grabber to SCOTUS

 

[OODA_Loop]

Ok how about “militia “?

Supreme Court uphelad in Heller vs DC that the right provides for, but it is not contingent upon, militia service.

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

 

[Timmy]

There are no “abolute rights” . All rights have limits .

What does "Congress shall make no law" mean?

What does “ well regulated” mean . If u want to cherry pick lines .

Hawaii ain’t congress by the way.

At the time the Constitution was written, it meant that a persons property should ready to roll. Properly maintained.
Not well regulated like the statists like to imagine.
Try again

Ok how about “militia “?

Geez . I agree we have a right to guns but don’t act as if the 2nd says “guns for everybody ! The government can’t do nothing about it !”

As long as it isnt impeding on someone else, what should they do about it?
Does the Constitution mean things it doesnt actually say?
Do you think its a metaphor or something?

Is this where u are a strict constitutionalist except when you don’t want to?

Strictly reading the 2nd it means we need an armed people for the army . Of course we have a standing army now . You could easily say only guard/military members have a right to own guns .

 

[OODA_Loop]

Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Not if you are assaulted and reasonably fear great bodily harm or death.

 

[Brain357]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

 

[depotoo]

No, it doesn’t. You have to read what they regarded as militia, which was every man to be armed. Maybe go read the founders and writers documents. You might learn something.

What does "Congress shall make no law" mean?

What does “ well regulated” mean . If u want to cherry pick lines .

Hawaii ain’t congress by the way.

At the time the Constitution was written, it meant that a persons property should ready to roll. Properly maintained.
Not well regulated like the statists like to imagine.
Try again

Ok how about “militia “?

Geez . I agree we have a right to guns but don’t act as if the 2nd says “guns for everybody ! The government can’t do nothing about it !”

As long as it isnt impeding on someone else, what should they do about it?
Does the Constitution mean things it doesnt actually say?
Do you think its a metaphor or something?

Is this where u are a strict constitutionalist except when you don’t want to?

Strictly reading the 2nd it means we need an armed people for the army . Of course we have a standing army now . You could easily say only guard/military members have a right to own guns .

 

[OODA_Loop]

Strictly reading the 2nd it means we need an armed people for the army . Of course we have a standing army now . You could easily say only guard/military members have a right to own guns .

Not according to the Supreme Court.

 

[Timmy]

Ok how about “militia “?

Supreme Court uphelad in Heller vs DC that the right provides for, but it is not contingent upon, militia service.

“Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” – Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

So now you care about Supreme Court rulings . You say the same in Roe v Wade . ?

 

[Brain357]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

States with carry laws have lower rates.

Which ones have lower homicide rates than Hawaii?

 

[Brain357]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

I prefer freedom. I will always prefer freedom.

I don’t value the freedom to kill.

 

[OODA_Loop]

So now you care about Supreme Court rulings . You say the same in Roe v Wade . ?

Of course. Why do I care if you cull your own?

 

[TNHarley]

What does "Congress shall make no law" mean?

What does “ well regulated” mean . If u want to cherry pick lines .

Hawaii ain’t congress by the way.

At the time the Constitution was written, it meant that a persons property should ready to roll. Properly maintained.
Not well regulated like the statists like to imagine.
Try again

Ok how about “militia “?

Geez . I agree we have a right to guns but don’t act as if the 2nd says “guns for everybody ! The government can’t do nothing about it !”

As long as it isnt impeding on someone else, what should they do about it?
Does the Constitution mean things it doesnt actually say?
Do you think its a metaphor or something?

Is this where u are a strict constitutionalist except when you don’t want to?

Strictly reading the 2nd it means we need an armed people for the army . Of course we have a standing army now . You could easily say only guard/military members have a right to own guns .

Terminology has changed
The documents intent hasnt
You have to do better than this if you want to argue with me, timmy

 

[Brain357]

Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Not if you are assaulted and reasonably fear great bodily harm or death.

Then you legally murder people.

 

[depotoo]

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

 

[TNHarley]

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

Liberty 1
statist brain 0

Guess I like low homicide rates.

I prefer freedom. I will always prefer freedom.

I don’t value the freedom to kill.

No one has a freedom to kill. Thats absolutely ridiculous.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Then you legally murder people.

Nope then you exercise lawful lethal self-defense.

 

[Brain357]

Then you legally murder people.

Nope then you exercise lawful lethal self-defense.

Study: Stand Your Ground law increased homicides in Florida

 

[Brain357]

No.
Crime Rates in Chicago Plummet After IL Implements Concealed Carry

Concealed Carry Soars 214%, Violent Crime Drops 21%

So you want Hawaii to have lots of shootings like other states? Weak gun laws working real well for FL...

They are having shootings. And constantly being ripped off over and over. Go read Big Island Thieves to get a taste on what goes on and how pissed they are.

And more guns has never helped. Crime has increased every year since WI and IL got concealed carry. How does their crime rates compare to gun full Fl?

You think crime went down in Chicago? Too funny!