A bit more of your merciful god.

[The Irish Ram]

How about Noah's flood?

How many children drowned?

Human children? NONE. Nephilim were not human. They were a particularly nasty, nasty hybrid. God stepped in and salvaged our race by sticking the only 8 people on earth whose DNA had not been corrupted in a boat, and started over.
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”

Of the five stones that David picked up, one was for the nephilim Goliath, the other 4 were for Goliath's brothers. Nephilimism is handed down and runs in the family. It is generational. Our native Indians used to put their hand forward to show they were not related to the nasty Mayans who bore one of the signs of a Nephilim, an extra digit.

‘The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them.
‘When the Lord saw that man’s wickedness was widespread on the earth and that every scheme his mind thought of was nothing but evil all the time, the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. ‘

 

[Colin norris]

Those are two situations. Israel is used as media (God's CNN or Fox News) for God's truth to reach today's humans. It is thus important that the Jews must be loyal to their vows made with God. That's why Jesus said you shouldn't vow, if yes say yes, no say no. If you vow you need to keep your words. That's part of the culture God needs to build such that Israel can do their job to be the media for God's truth to convey. In general, God is harsh to His chosen people who He loves the most when working towards granting His Grace to all mankind.

The historical background of Abraham's situation is that he (Lot as well) was surrounded by the Canaanites who were with very bad practices which may go back to haunt Abraham and later Israel. This included the practice of child sacrifice to idol gods such as Baal. So if the Canaanites are so faithful to their gods, Abraham should have greater faith in God such that he won't be converted by his surrounding religions. God knows how faithful he is, but it is a necessity for his faith to be openly demonstrated and witnessed.

Through the process, God emphasized that child sacrifice is not what He wanted in a truly serious manner to His most faithful servant. That contributes to later Jews that child sacrifice is never part of the Jewish religion. God also used a lamb, who He loved as to how Abraham loved his son, as the true sacrifice in order to save all mankind. Abrahams thus knows that as an important prophet the sacrifice of his own son won't save. Only God's Lamb will save. Again, maybe this is harsh to Abraham, however at the same time maybe this is necessary when working towards the salvation of all mankind. Moreover and in the end, Abraham has been openly proved to be with the greatest faith, and something special must have been prepared for him in Heaven. Most prophets and saints are slain too, including Jesus Christ who is among the greatest of them. God loves them all, and through them, God's salvation to mankind is achieved.

Stop it.
You have no evidence if any of your god rubbish.
Parroting the gid crap doesn't make it fact.
If you don't believe everything in your bible, you are treasonous to it.
Don't misinterpret what it says because its unpalatable or slip over that bit because your embarrassed.

Dont bombard me with your obligatory rubbish. Tell some little kid who is more likely to swallow that crap.

 

[Cougarbear]

In judges, chapter 11, jephthah made a deal with god if he was victorious over the Ammonites, he would sacrifice the first person to greet him on his return, by burning them alive.
He did indeed win and upon his return, was gleefully greeted by his daughter. Sadly the news was not goid. He cooked her a couple of months later to satisfy this ghost they believed in.
God never said a word apparently but when Abraham prepared his son to be barbecued as a sacrifice, at the very last minute, somehow Abraham got an email from God who suggested he spare him.

Its a shame your merciful god didn't show the same compassion for jephthats daughter as ge did for Isaac. This is the stuff you teach little kids.
How can you be part of such horrific and wicked teachings of your filthy god? Is that where you get your morals from?

Typical atheist, secularist or disbeliever in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) who misunderstand and hate on God. Thinking that "Man" is more righteous and capable of not doing evil things like Putin the Secularist is doing now and in his past as a KGB agent. Even more, pure ignorance and lack of knowledge.
Jephthah was an evil judge who vowed to God without God's participation in a covenant with Jephthah, to commit a sin against the Law of Moses. Human sacrifice is against the Law of Moses. Therefore, anyone with an ounce of brains would logically conclude that equating this with God is purely stupid.
The act with Abraham was a similitude of what Heavenly Father was going to feel when it was time for his Son to be sacrifices. Even though the Law of Moses came well after this, human sacrifice was not approved of in Abraham's time as well. But, the Lord also wanted to know if Abraham was going to be the father of many nations who believe in God, then he wanted to know he was obedient as well. Isaac was never going to be sacrificed. If we are just animals as you believe, then why would you care anyways? You have no problem sacrificing animals for your taste bud pleasure. Trying to draw a comparison between these two events was extremely pathetic and a sign of desperation.

 

[Colin norris]

Typical atheist, secularist or disbeliever in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) who misunderstand and hate on God. Thinking that "Man" is more righteous and capable of not doing evil things like Putin the Secularist is doing now and in his past as a KGB agent. Even more, pure ignorance and lack of knowledge.
Jephthah was an evil judge who vowed to God without God's participation in a covenant with Jephthah, to commit a sin against the Law of Moses. Human sacrifice is against the Law of Moses. Therefore, anyone with an ounce of brains would logically conclude that equating this with God is purely stupid.
The act with Abraham was a similitude of what Heavenly Father was going to feel when it was time for his Son to be sacrifices. Even though the Law of Moses came well after this, human sacrifice was not approved of in Abraham's time as well. But, the Lord also wanted to know if Abraham was going to be the father of many nations who believe in God, then he wanted to know he was obedient as well. Isaac was never going to be sacrificed. If we are just animals as you believe, then why would you care anyways? You have no problem sacrificing animals for your taste bud pleasure. Trying to draw a comparison between these two events was extremely pathetic and a sign of desperation.

No its not. Its a fact because it comes from your holy scripture and you know it. Either you believe the lot or youre a hypocrite.
Dont tell me the savagery and slaughter of innocent people is something you should teach kids then you attempt to distance yourself because you're embarrassed and even suggest it isnt true.
What sort of devotion are you following?
Be brave and admit it. Its disgraceful you should attach yourself to such barbarism and lies.
You people will do anything to protect your filthy God that doesn't exist.

 

[Cougarbear]

No its not. Its a fact because it comes from your holy scripture and you know it. Either you believe the lot or youre a hypocrite.
Dont tell me the savagery and slaughter of innocent people is something you should teach kids then you attempt to distance yourself because you're embarrassed and even suggest it isnt true.
What sort of devotion are you following?
Be brave and admit it. Its disgraceful you should attach yourself to such barbarism and lies.
You people will do anything to protect your filthy God that doesn't exist.

Again, you lack knowledge and understanding when you read the scriptures. You don't see the fact the judge was evil and not following the commandments and laws of God he gave through Moses, the Prophet. You can't even begin to admit this because of your lack of humility. You are so engrained in your own hatred and controlled by the devil, you can't even see how wrong you are with your interpretations. You lack the ability to comprehend what you read that you couldn't even notice God was not a part of the vow the judge said. On top of this, you again have no comprehension nor understanding of the story of Abraham and Isaac. Such disgrace you show yourself.

 

[BreezeWood]

No human children. There were 8 humans whose DNA was not corrupt. God saved them and the human race at the same time. Research Nephilim...

too bad for you ram - the children of all beings are treated the same by the heavens, no other children than those of the humans so chosen by their own deeds were the victims of the great flood - your dna, nephilim absurdity is beyond comprehension of any real consideration.

 

[Votto]

In judges, chapter 11, jephthah made a deal with god if he was victorious over the Ammonites, he would sacrifice the first person to greet him on his return, by burning them alive.
He did indeed win and upon his return, was gleefully greeted by his daughter. Sadly the news was not goid. He cooked her a couple of months later to satisfy this ghost they believed in.
God never said a word apparently but when Abraham prepared his son to be barbecued as a sacrifice, at the very last minute, somehow Abraham got an email from God who suggested he spare him.

Its a shame your merciful god didn't show the same compassion for jephthats daughter as ge did for Isaac. This is the stuff you teach little kids.
How can you be part of such horrific and wicked teachings of your filthy god? Is that where you get your morals from?

Proverbs 30:17 should be hung in every child's room

“The eye that mocks a father,
that scorns an aged mother,
will be pecked out by the ravens of the valley,
will be eaten by the vultures.

I just love the Bible.

Now run along and release some criminals from their jails and continue to promote those who decriminalize crimes.

 

[Colin norris]

Proverbs 30:17 should be hung in every child's room

“The eye that mocks a father,
that scorns an aged mother,
will be pecked out by the ravens of the valley,
will be eaten by the vultures.

I just love the Bible.

You would if you approve of savagery, barbarism and cruelty.

Is that the same bible you all get your morals from, where you get your precious gifts of right and wrong, where children are brain washed into believing there's a devil and they will go to hell?
Now you issue childish threats as quotes from your filthy bible as if I should be intimidated.
Dont make me vomit.

 

[Blues Man]

What is the purpose of each Biblical account?

Indoctrination into the dogma of religion

 

[Blues Man]

Human children? NONE. Nephilim were not human. They were a particularly nasty, nasty hybrid. God stepped in and salvaged our race by sticking the only 8 people on earth whose DNA had not been corrupted in a boat, and started over.
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”

Of the five stones that David picked up, one was for the nephilim Goliath, the other 4 were for Goliath's brothers. Nephilimism is handed down and runs in the family. It is generational. Our native Indians used to put their hand forward to show they were not related to the nasty Mayans who bore one of the signs of a Nephilim, an extra digit.

‘The Nephilim were on the earth both in those days and afterward, when the sons of God came to the daughters of mankind, who bore children to them.
‘When the Lord saw that man’s wickedness was widespread on the earth and that every scheme his mind thought of was nothing but evil all the time, the Lord regretted that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. ‘

So then your god didn't create everyone.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

My son in law often compared the Bible to Aesop's Fables. He may have had a good point.

So, Jesus was not real and God is not real.

Seems a great number of Christians would take exception to that

 

[Blues Man]

So, Jesus was not real and God is not real.

Seems a great number of Christians would take exception to that

So what?

Jesus was just a charismatic religious figure there is no proof that he was a god incarnate.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So what?

Jesus was just a charismatic religious figure there is no proof that he was a god incarnate.

So what?

This Sunday walk into a Southern Baptist church and tell them Jesus was not God and see if they agree with you or not.

 

[Blues Man]

So what?

This Sunday walk into a Southern Baptist church and tell them Jesus was not God and see if they agree with you or not.

So just because people disagree with you it means what you say isn;t true?

There are still people who think the world is flat

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So just because people disagree with you it means what you say isn;t true?

The Christians would say the same thing to you.

Neither side can prove their position.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Stop it.
You have no evidence if any of your god rubbish.
Parroting the gid crap doesn't make it fact.
If you don't believe everything in your bible, you are treasonous to it.
Don't misinterpret what it says because its unpalatable or slip over that bit because your embarrassed.

Dont bombard me with your obligatory rubbish. Tell some little kid who is more likely to swallow that crap.

In other words: " Don't bother responding to me, I'm right and you're a moron".

 

[Blues Man]

The Christians would say the same thing to you.

Neither side can prove their position.

WHat is my position?

I am not an atheist because neither side can prove their claims although I do not know how anyone proves something does not exist with any surety.

The fact is there is no proof that gods exist or do not exist and I for one don't think it matters either way

 

[Meriweather]

Indoctrination into the dogma of religion

It seems to be failing rather badly at indoctrination, doesn't it? It is the cynical attitude that might also say we the purpose of school is indoctrination.

Let's think beyond indoctrination. What was the purpose of the original authors to the original audiences?

 

[Blues Man]

It seems to be failing rather badly at indoctrination, doesn't it? It is the cynical attitude that might also say we the purpose of school is indoctrination.

Let's think beyond indoctrination. What was the purpose of the original authors to the original audiences?

They were just plagiarizing other schools of thought that existed before the Bible was even an idea.

I find it interesting that religion really flourished when 98% of the population was illiterate.

 

[Meriweather]

I find it interesting that religion really flourished when 98% of the population was illiterate.

You are drawing closer to my point which is that the original authors told stories. Orally. People heard these stories and learned something from them. They taught lessons that pertained to them and the cultures and societies in which they lived. It spoke about their lives, and life lessons that are still applicable today.

Noah's Ark teaches a beautiful lesson, and all many see today is the setting only--a flood that killed BABIES! A flood that in the original language has the flood covering the ground/earth/dirt that many today think all believers teach that the flood covered the planet/Earth. And great arguments occur over that. The original teaching--for some--has been lost.

I can understand why people who see the Bible in such a light think that everyone sees it in the same light and has been brainwashed And guess what--both fundamentalist believers and non-believers alike continue to spew this misinformation. Fundamentalists and non-believers are more alike than either would ever claim. Most believers--more than seventy-five percent us--do not take every modern English word in the Bible as literal. The Bible is not there to teach us science, but a philosophy, a way of living. Further, the Bible is not so much about God as it is about us (mankind).