A preview of single payer? Yes.

[Missouri_Mike]

Not that should shock anyone but once obiecare becomes national single payer government healthcare we can all live under the same expectations as our Vet's. This is obiecare on a smaller yet still out of control scale, just imagine how bad it can get!

Lessons of the VA Scandal | National Review Online

Are there lessons in the VA scandal for the rest of us if Obamacare survives and even expands?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's not a preview. It's not funded or supported correctly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

And the VA has many more successes than failures.

The great thing is that we can affect the government's health care.

We can't touch the insurance companies.

So make the smart pick.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, since the single payer, universal health care systems are doing better on costs and results than ours has, I think that we will eventually get rid of the dinosaurs and go to a similiar system.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Yeah no one has ever died in a for profit healthcare.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That's not a preview. It's not funded or supported correctly.

Funding isn't the problem, there are billions spent. I think the words you are looking for are managed and distributed. Neither of which seems to be going well. But you don't worry yourself about that, the funding is being spent in bonuses for such a fine job not being managed or distributed well.

But then again that's just government for you.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Well, since the single payer, universal health care systems are doing better on costs and results than ours has, I think that we will eventually get rid of the dinosaurs and go to a similiar system.

And that example is where?

 

[bripat9643]

That's not a preview. It's not funded or supported correctly.

That's the excuse liberals always use for the failures. Whenever a government program doesn't produce the promised results, what do they say? We need to spend even more!

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah no one has ever died in a for profit healthcare.

Not because they were kept waiting for treatment too long.

 

[1776]

Vets earned their medical care but still get crapped on, so imagine the GOV treating you average Joe Schmoe.....

 

[HelenaHandbag]

That's not a preview. It's not funded or supported correctly.

That's the excuse liberals always use for the failures. Whenever a government program doesn't produce the promised results, what do they say? We need to spend even more!

Stimulate the right nerve and the knee will jerk, even amongst the brain dead.

 

[idb]

Will single-payer mean the end of health insurance?

 

[bripat9643]

And the VA has many more successes than failures.

The great thing is that we can affect the government's health care.

We can't touch the insurance companies.

So make the smart pick.

Spoken like a true boot-licking statist.

Are you still claiming to be a Republican and a "true conservative," Fakey?

Have you resolved your incontinence issue yet?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Will single-payer mean the end of health insurance?

It will create a single "insurer".

Good thing that monopolies are so well known for delivering superior products and services, isn't it?

 

[HenryBHough]

There won't be death panels.

Only waiting lists.

 

[idb]

Will single-payer mean the end of health insurance?

It will create a single "insurer".

Good thing that monopolies are so well known for delivering superior products and services, isn't it?

So, again, there'll be no access to health insurance if you want it?

 

[whitehall]

We know that unnamed (so far) federal bureaucrats issued orders to the VA for doctors to intentionally delay care for certain Veterans and we know that at least in West. Va. some Veterans committed suicide and others died and the (unnamed bureaucrats) awarded bonuses to the federal workers who saved money. The Orwellian concept will no doubt spread to Obamacare where federal workers will be awarded bonuses based on the number of people who die before federal dollars are wasted on their care.

 

[1776]

In socialized medical plans, the GOV pays per patient so it is in the interest of the hospital to fake numbers and get patients in/out with a so-called doctor in 15 minutes to get 8 people per hour for that $$$$$.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Yeah no one has ever died in a for profit healthcare.

Not because they were kept waiting for treatment too long.

I recall a Dallas Emergency Room finding a man in the waiting room dead after waiting room for something like 43 hours. He was came in for chest pains.

 

[idb]

Yeah no one has ever died in a for profit healthcare.

Not because they were kept waiting for treatment too long.

No, just because they were refused treatment.