Aborted fetus = Lucky bastard?

[Shogun]

At least you're funny if nothing else. I don't know why you didn't think it germain to the topic to ask you if you told women before you had sex with them about your darling compromise...but it is, and I truly hope that you state your beliefs upfront.

I'm not into controlling what other people do with their bodies. I also don't subscribe to your definition of life. But keep calling me a hooker and a bitch, it really does nothing but confirm how lame your silly opinion is on this topic.

My opinion on men is that I'm pretty sure you aren't one.

so, YOU get to call me a doofus, gay, etc...

but the first time I return the favor and call you a hooker you act like the fucking sky is falling?

Good one! It probably doesn't say anything about your capacity to preserve a double standard for that which you personally identify.


Indeed, I really don't give a fuck if you disagree with the heartbeat line in the sand since you seem to thing a fucking fetus is just a little acess tissue of a womans own body. Trust me, the law addressed your opinon before RvW and 30 years isn't a guarentee that such will not someday be the case again.

put that in your vagina bong and smoke it.


Trust me, your feminazi opinion of men and a dollar might get me a couple cokes out of a soda machine.

 

[Shogun]

Keep telling yourself that.

Your retarded suggestions have been exposed for the ruse they are. Nothing more than a wish to allow men to opt out of personal responsibility for their offspring. Period.

You are an insult to honest, decent men everywhere. Fortunately for everyone, you are a bitter exception that in no way reflects the rule.

Now tell me again how the US government doesn't regulate what people can legally ingest. That's one of my personal favorites.

hey look.. tissue from a female vagina is autonomously yawning! Holy SHIT, it's a good thing this living human is less important than Ravir's own body.. which, apparently assimilated the genes of men before developing a tumorous lump like the one below.

 

[Shogun]

What should Hammer say to his girlfriend with two black eyes?

Nothing, he already told the bitch twice!

Note: I wanted to use Shogun instead, but everyone knows he's never so much as sniffed a real live vagina. Even I have standards when it comes to the suspension of disbelief.

I can have you crying to the mods about signatures by 4pm if youd like...

 

[manifold]

...Shogun hates the idea of personal responsibility and accountability.

That would explain his retarded recommendations in this thread, his devout atheism, and his persistent advocacy for socialism. There you have it, Shogun's trifecta of girly man cowardice. His momma would surely be proud.

 

[ReillyT]

I am sorry. I tried to read back into the thread to figure out what you guys are talking about, but the taunting stretches back quite a ways. Could I bother anyone with an update? The topic looks interesting.

 

[manifold]

I am sorry. I tried to read back into the thread to figure out what you guys are talking about, but the taunting stretches back quite a ways. Could I bother anyone with an update? The topic looks interesting.

I've only really been attempting to make one point and here it is:

When it comes to the decision of whether to terminate a pregnancy, it is not possible to give two people (mother and father) equal say because it is an all or nothing proposition. In the event that these two people disagree, one must necessarily not get their way. When I stated this originally (to Hammer), I assumed that I was merely reminding everyone of the obvious. However Shogun can't seem to get his head around it. And I can only infer that he must think it is possible to have half an abortion.

 

[Shogun]

I am sorry. I tried to read back into the thread to figure out what you guys are talking about, but the taunting stretches back quite a ways. Could I bother anyone with an update? The topic looks interesting.

good luck with that. I've asked for much the same but all I get are accusations of being gay and something about half-pregnant women.

 

[jillian]

I've only really been attempting to make one point and here it is:

When it comes to the decision of whether to terminate a pregnancy, it is not possible to give two people (mother and father) equal say because it is an all or nothing proposition. In the event that these two people disagree, one must necessarily not get their way. When I stated this originally (to Hammer), I assumed that I was merely reminding everyone of the obvious. However Shogun can't seem to get his head around it. And I can only infer that he must think it is possible to have half an abortion.

Nah...Shogie just figures he can force someone to NOT have an abortion if he promises to take care of the kid (thus making women into his personal incubator) or, in the alternative, he figures if he DOESN'T want the kid and the woman does, then he should get a pass on child support.

 

[Shogun]

...Shogun hates the idea of personal responsibility and accountability.

That would explain his retarded recommendations in this thread, his devout atheism, and his persistent advocacy for socialism. There you have it, Shogun's trifecta of girly man cowardice. His momma would surely be proud.

HA!

yea.. IM only the guy whose very great compromise addresses inequality AND irresponsibility from sexual behavours!



thats fucking hilarious.

 

[AllieBaba]

If a man is responsible for half a baby when it's born, then he should have the rights to half a baby when the woman's pregnant. And I don't know what the squawk is about "half a baby". And abortion pretty effectively halves the baby anyway.

He should have a say.

Of course, this would be a non-issue if we just gave the kid a chance in the first place.

 

[manifold]

If ever you wanted a sure fire indication of idiocy...


If Shogun and Allie agree on a thing, it's gotta be way way wrong and really fucking stupid!

 

[Shogun]

Nah...Shogie just figures he can force someone to NOT have an abortion if he promises to take care of the kid (thus making women into his personal incubator) or, in the alternative, he figures if he DOESN'T want the kid and the woman does, then he should get a pass on child support.

My motive has nothing to do with your personal sexual behaviour. if you want to fuck like a mynx then go for it.

HOWEVER, your little vagina rant doesn't validate using abortion for birth control. Sorry if you think killing feti should be a protected right but you appeal for the same "freedom of personal behaviour" that a murderer or rapist after getting busted for breaking the laws regarding such.

FREE PASS? yea, tell that to men whose child support pays their baby mama cable bill. Face it, it's equality that really scares you. Coincidental? doubtful.

 

[jillian]

My motive has nothing to do with your personal sexual behaviour. if you want to fuck like a mynx then go for it.

HOWEVER, your little vagina rant doesn't validate using abortion for birth control. Sorry if you think killing feti should be a protected right but you appeal for the same "freedom of personal behaviour" that a murderer or rapist after getting busted for breaking the laws regarding such.

FREE PASS? yea, tell that to men whose child support pays their baby mama cable bill. Face it, it's equality that really scares you. Coincidental? doubtful.

Cable bill? Clearly you've never had anything to do with any type of child support proceeding. It's not about cable bills. It's about men having to pay for children. If men got out of it by saying they don't want the child, every child support case I've ever done/seen would have ended with the guy being off the hook. But guess what, as I said, once the kid's born, the law doesn't care about what subterfuge men use to try to get out of child support....it only cares about the child being taken care of.

Besides, tell me you know a single man who would stand up and say, yeah, I want to support a kid I had accidentally with some woman I wouldn't choose to live with.

If you're all worried about it, use a condom.

Other than that, sorry, you don't get to hold a woman's body hostage as your personal incubator just because you're opposed to reproductive choice.

Now go make up some more alarmist stuff about D&E's. I'm sure there are people who are predisposed to listen to it.

 

[Shogun]

If a man is responsible for half a baby when it's born, then he should have the rights to half a baby when the woman's pregnant. And I don't know what the squawk is about "half a baby". And abortion pretty effectively halves the baby anyway.

He should have a say.

Of course, this would be a non-issue if we just gave the kid a chance in the first place.

The funny thing is, baba, is these are the same fucking idiots who would, AND HVE, supported this kind of compramise when im busy bludgeoning your side with the very same ideals. In fact, Benny was kind enough to post a link to one where I was busy doling out the same consistent lesson in genius to your side. Trully, the nutters in this thread really are no different than the nutters from the last thread.

and yes, the half-baby thing would be a total knee slapper if it weren't such a sad indication of Mani's less than impressive participation.

 

[manifold]

If you're all worried about it, use a condom.

He's not. Blow up dolls can't get pregnant.

He just hates woman on account of a lifetime of rejection.

 

[jillian]

He's not. Blow up dolls can't get pregnant.

He just hates woman on account of a lifetime of rejection.

I understand.

 

[ReillyT]

The funny thing is, baba, is these are the same fucking idiots who would, AND HVE, supported this kind of compramise when im busy bludgeoning your side with the very same ideals. In fact, Benny was kind enough to post a link to one where I was busy doling out the same consistent lesson in genius to your side. Trully, the nutters in this thread really are no different than the nutters from the last thread.

and yes, the half-baby thing would be a total knee slapper if it weren't such a sad indication of Mani's less than impressive participation.

Childbirth is an instrusive, painful and somewhat dangerous experience that only one side of your compromise has to deal with.

Child support isn't just between the parents. It is also a social mechanism to ensure that children that are born are properly provided for.

I can see where you are going with your argument, and it has some intuitive appeal, but I don't buy it.

 

[AllieBaba]

It's all about hypocrisy. They'll fight to the death for the right to kill a baby, but they have an absolute aneurism if you dare to say you believe the baby has a soul that could go to hell. Believing a baby has a soul makes the person who believes that a BAD person, a cruel person, a judgmental person.

Does it make sense? No, it doesn't. Is it hypocritical? You bet.

 

[ReillyT]

It's all about hypocrisy. They'll fight to the death for the right to kill a baby, but they have an absolute aneurism if you dare to say you believe the baby has a soul that could go to hell. Believing a baby has a soul makes the person who believes that a BAD person, a cruel person, a judgmental person.

Does it make sense? No, it doesn't. Is it hypocritical? You bet.

I believe that this might be a monstrous and gross simplification over the argument that you are referring to.

 

[AllieBaba]

Childbirth is an instrusive, painful and somewhat dangerous experience that only one side of your compromise has to deal with.

Child support isn't just between the parents. It is also a social mechanism to ensure that children that are born are properly provided for.

I can see where you are going with your argument, and it has some intuitive appeal, but I don't buy it.

It's quite dangerous, actually.

But courts recognize fathers and mothers equally after children are born. Initially. Ultimately one or the other may have sole or primary custody, but the standard is they are both parents, period. If that's the truth after the child is born, why should it be different before it's born?