Abortion should be banned in the United States

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Is that your final answer?

it shirley is, regis.

 

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Huh?

So, if a woman is raped and gets pregnant, and wants to terminate the pregnancy, it's a medical procedure and not an abortion?

You should know that extremist zealots would disagree with you...

they haven't evolved very much at all.

 

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we have a mighty Creator

too bad you don't. Who created you, by the way?

How were the first humans created when there was yet no sperm or egg?

<psssst>

abortion is sanctioned in the OT.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

there is only pro-choice & pro-birth.

Wrong, pro-abortion filth who can’t help but conflate his evil, unjust views on the topic of respecting the human right to life with his evil, unjust views on the topic of of respecting the human right to property.

We’re pro-life. That means protecting lives from aggressive force and / or punishing those who attack the innocent. It does not mean your social program claptrap, not of which should be legal and none of which is Constitutionally valid.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

A clever answer to avoid a gotcha question from a government that wanted to persecute him. If he says “no, don’t pay your taxes,” then they have him. Jesus was not a supporter of the Roman occupation by any means but he wasn’t stupid.

Not like you. It is clear that you are just too stupid to understand the cleverness of the character of Jesus. You think it was an endorsement of an infinite and oppressive Roman state.

You know who liked stupid interpretations like that? The Romans, after Constantine. They liked authority and they liked morons like you who would bend over and give it to them.

Caesar’s coins are not Christ’s problem or his business when lecturing about right and wrong and people doing good deeds of their own free will.

It’s actually a very libertarian episode. And yet statists use it to promote authoritarianism and socialism.

 

[Blaster]

it shirley is, regis.

 

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Wrong, pro-abortion filth who can’t help but conflate his evil, unjust views on the topic of respecting the human right to life with his evil, unjust views on the topic of of respecting the human right to property.

We’re pro-life. That means protecting lives from aggressive force and / or punishing those who attack the innocent. It does not mean your social program claptrap, not of which should be legal and none of which is Constitutionally valid.

^^^

 

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Wrong, pro-abortion filth who can’t help but conflate his evil, unjust views on the topic of respecting the human right to life with his evil, unjust views on the topic of of respecting the human right to property.

We’re pro-life. That means protecting lives from aggressive force and / or punishing those who attack the innocent. It does not mean your social program claptrap, not of which should be legal and none of which is Constitutionally valid.

Numbers 5:11-31

New International Version

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The Test for an Unfaithful Wife​

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.
16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”
23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.
29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Numbers 5:11-31​

I’m an atheist. I give zero fucks about your religion obsession. Get a salient argument.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

^^^

Got it, you want to confirm that you’re a retard with no counterargument. Message received, retarded pro-abortion filth.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Consoling Travails Of Dealing Directly With A Lack Of Conscience In Haughty Minds "

* Etymology Through Morphemes Waging Calculated Combinations Too Win *

there is only pro-choice & pro-birth.

A venue of adversarial debate in sew fist tree ( sophistry ) can be set where opposing perspectives assert the most effective position to establish its objective , irrespective of whether a perspective for an assertion as applied is factually consistent or complete .

An extrapolation of terminology includes combinations of objects and combinations of words as objects could not be excluded ,

The capital punishment position of the " national right to life " organization is there is not a stated position .

A state is not concerned with when life begins , or whether life exists at all in the case of capital punishment , as state is only concerned with whether a wright to life exists .

Would a catholic church position for public policy , that prohibits abortion and prohibits capital punishment , be described as pro-life , in that its theocracy includes premises for communism , that its 501(c)(3) institutions promote as socialism ( poverty ) and , as of late , establishment clause violations through government handouts to socialize illegal migrants ?

Which would be a good descriptor of a position for public policy that prohibits abortion and prohibits capital punishment ? Anti-choice ?

Which would be a good descriptor of a position for public policy that allows abortion and allows capital punishment ? Pro-choice ? Pro-life ?

Which would be a good descriptor of a position for public policy that prohibits abortion and allows capital punishment ? Pro-birth ?

Which would be a good descriptor of a position for public policy that allows abortion without consent of the mother ? Pro-abortion ?

 

[August West]

So pro-lifer, you oppose the death penalty?

A follow up question for the fake pro-lifer would be, is he a friend of the NRA?

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

A follow up question for the fake pro-lifer would be, is he a friend of the NRA?

Self-defense AFFIRMS the right to life, jackass.

Violating / trying to repeal the 2nd is disrespect to the human right to life, the human right to liberty, AND the human right to property.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Uniform Fetish Natural Propensities To Fight Or Flight "

* Murmuring Echoes In Mortal Waves Of Ego Myopia *

A follow up question for the fake pro-lifer would be, is he a friend of the NRA?

An altruism for hue mammon kind would be that hue mammon kind should exist in perpetuity - forever , however such a supposition does not expect that every instance of hue mammon kind must therefore exist in perpetuity .

A success criteria of survival from nature has not changed and an afterlife , a chance for eternal life , reincarnation , born again , a life to come , a transmutation of soles are some of many metaphors for passing on ones genetic identity , a haploid at a time , so that another , both figuratively and literally as themselves , may have an opportunity to experience the sentience , sapience and introspection afforded by a sophisticated physical state expected for life , where failure to do so in perpetuity is ascribed the metaphors of final judgement and eternal damnation .

A principle for individualism stipulates that self ownership of individuals includes free roam , free association and progeny .

As a citizen in a republic , as a republican for a republic with a credo of e pluribus unum , independence is posited through individualism and by a principle of individualism , self ownership through progeny is determined by the individual .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Hue Mammon Homo Sapiens Sapiens Category Qualifying Sentience Prerequisites "

* Independence Through Individualism With Us Second Amendment *

Self-defense AFFIRMS the right to life, jackass.

Violating / trying to repeal the 2nd is disrespect to the human right to life, the human right to liberty, AND the human right to property.

A supposition for a law precludes that an entity exists and is capable of issuing a retort , or a reprise , of response to an action that violates some statute of writ in law .

Prior to foundation of a social civil agreement , according to a constitution , an individual is subject to the moral relativism within nature and , to improve ones odds of survival and quality of life , one exchanges natural freedoms for equal protection of negative liberties .

Should a social civil agreement be dissolved , according to a constitution , an individual is subject to the moral relativism of nature where mutually assured destruction remains an assertive defense .

 

[August West]

Self-defense AFFIRMS the right to life, jackass.

Violating / trying to repeal the 2nd is disrespect to the human right to life, the human right to liberty, AND the human right to property.

The person who murdered 5 of his neighbors was affirming his right to self defense? The 2nd tells us that we have a right to own a gun but says nothing about strolling around town with it playing Billy Bad Ass.

 

[TheParser]

Otherwise, I have never heard a good argument for legal abortion and I will openly argue that it ought to be banned.

Some people (including me) feel that abortion has prevented the birth of a lot of vicious criminals.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Some people (including me) feel that abortion has prevented the birth of a lot of vicious criminals.

If we’re just going to assume folks are going to do harm later in life arbitrarily and kill them for it, why stop at birth?

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

The person who murdered 5 of his neighbors was affirming his right to self defense?

No, idiot, in that case the five counts of first-degree murder or capital murder affirm the right to life when some asshole goes out and attacks five randos without cause.

If those neighbors attacked him instead of the other way around, then yes, absolutely, his right to keep and bear arms for self-defense affirms his right to life. It says that his innocent life is important and no one has the right to take it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I am pro-life, my view is that unless human rights mean something divergent to "human rights," the unborn should have them. As a consequence, I believe nearly all abortion should be banned (the typical 99% or more or cases). There are potential exceptions which I remain agnostic on but these do not make up the paradigm of incidents. Otherwise, I have never heard a good argument for legal abortion and I will openly argue that it ought to be banned.

Here's an excellent argument for having abortions.
There are way too many people on this planet already, we're going to hit 8 billion by the end of the year, and the more we grow, the less land we have for food, the more wars are going to happen to control the limited resources like water, agricultural land and the like.