Active shooter in Pittsburgh, PA.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Actually I've driven my point to the T.

First most poor, most gun owners will never become a mass shooter like Bowers.

There is inequalities & it's not guns.

Overall theres a opposite correlation.

There is no correlation between guns & murders.

The three biggest lies of propagandas of the past & present centuries were the following.
1.) Race does not matter.
2.) Genes do not matter.
3.) More guns cause more murder.

You like most dumb Westerners believe such lies because of your poor critical thinking skills

You live in Europe, who is stupid again?

Off topic from Bowers the mentally ill defect shooting like this.

I know that absolutely DNA is the #1 determination of behaviour patterns including mass shooters like Rob Bowers

I live in Pawling, NY & was raised in Putnam Lake, NY.

As my profile clearly states.

Do you have a reading problem, stupid?

YOU ARE RIGHT, If you believe my attitudes & beliefs are much more common in Eastern Europe.

I AM just being myself.

Why do you think I tend to believe DNA dictates most of the behaviors.

If not true I'd be more like YOU AMERICANS but I'm NOT BECAUSE OF DNA.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

 

[2aguy]

This particular shooter AKA Rob Bowers would probably just use a car, a bomb, or something else like a machette to cause mayhem otherwise, without guns.

So, I don't think guns are much of the culprit, in fact the BIGGEST USA massacres like Wounded Knee were caused by the GUN CONTROL.

As for your comment.
Lithuania right next to Poland has even far less guns per capita than Poland, and about 8 X more murders, and about 3 X more suicide?

What happened there? Lithuanians are racially a bit different than Poles having Baltic & Finno-Ugric genes at higher rates & Slavic genes at much lower rates, now we're getting somewhere.

Because Russians despite being Slavic speakers, also have a lot of Baltic & Finno-Ugric genes much like Lithuanians do in comparison to Poles.

Yes, Russia has nearly identical murder rates as Lithuania.

I don't think it has MUCH of ANYTHING to do with guns, or lack of guns.

There's holes in both theories all over the World, which would call such theories BS.

Mass shootings were very common in Northern Ireland, at a time when they had far less guns than the USA.

The reason why Poland doesn't have this problem is quite obvious though now isn't it? There are certainly other factors like political and economic instability. But when you look at similarly stable countries, those with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates.

Hey Pinky

Guess what?

Poland can go fuck themselves

-Geaux

Guess what?

Rob Bowers the violent shooting predator & also Tennessee can go f*ck themselves, you have nearly 10X the murder rate as Poland.

Although, I don't necessarily blame this on guns, either.

Lithuania & Russia both have far, far, far, far less guns than Tennesee & still have similar murder rates to that of Tennessee.

Just some people have more aggressive, or otherwise violent individuals, according to their DNA.

If MOST of this society is NOT MURDERING people, and even less than that are like Bowers mass-shooters, then what becomes the problem?

It's obvious, the problem is DNA influencing Mental Illnesses which cause violent snapping fits, well like Bowers here.

Russia is pretty much under a dictator. That's leads to political instability. They don't exactly have a great economy either.

Do you think gun control would've stopped Bowers from killing? I don't really think so...

I thought they said similar about Poland becoming UNDEMOCRATIC, because of the so called Tribunal Court crisis?

Actually, by your logic, presumably Lithuania's a better Democracy, more Liberal, less guns, rather than Poland, so why does Lithuania have Europe's #2 murder rate & #1 suicide rate?

Gee, seems Lithuanians are violent regardless of "Government", how come??????????????

If they had their way, before they grabbed all of our guns, they would only allow us to have pump action shotguns......in Crimea, this very week, a shooter using a pump action shotgun murdered 21 people.....that is more than 8.......

The gun isn't the issue, the time in the gun free zone before the killer is confronted by a good guy with a gun is the issue.

 

[2aguy]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Brain357]

You are jumping around a lot. Austria and Switzerland are rich and stable countries. Lithuania is fresh out of the Soviet Union, it's a huge difference. Instability will increase homicide rates. Also the Swiss have a lot of guns, but they have much stronger laws than the US.

Okay, so why did you dodge that Northern Ireland was BY FAR pound for pound the champions of mass-shooters?

Bowers, Paddock, Roof & other "losers" don't change that fact in the USA. JUST it HAS changed.

Northern Ireland was a massacre blood-bath for a long time. (Had far less guns than the USA)

Bowers did do a terrible thing, but it's not necessarily just "American" & also I don't think his "Guns" had to be the problem, he could've found a ton of other options in a gun control society, CAR, Truck, Chainsaw, Machete, or how about Black market guns???????

America didn't have much mass shootings until pretty recently, either.



Okay, so Switzerland tops the charts in guns in Europe & DOES NOT top the charts murder.

Okay, so Lithuania tops the charts in lack of guns in Europe & DOES TOP the charts in murder.

You can in fact compare Lithuania's neighbors they all have similar instability, wealth, etc. and tend to have far less murder, definitely less suicide & less guns.

Now, the exact opposite applies for Switzerland, having more guns & less murder than most of it's neighbors who tend to have similar instability, wealth etc.

Your are going to have to provide some real numbers on Ireland. Also wasn't that all out of political instability like I have been saying?

The Swiss have a lot of guns, but they have very strong gun laws. Much stronger than the US. They are also extremely rich and very politically stable.

You are playing into my hands.

I do tend to believe DNA is what causes violence most of the time.

Why isn't every poor gun owner a mass shooter like Bowers?



Actually Switzerland COULD be as unstable & explosive violent as Northern Ireland.

REMEBER
Swiss are not uniform ethnically SAME with N Ireland.

Swiss could fight over whos more French, or more German.

I just think Switzerland's people are very docile by European standards.

Not just its low murder rate, also Swiss have not been in war, or genocide like most of Europe.

It's called DNA & some are far more violent than others.

Bowers is just a symptom of bad DNA

Not buying it. There are lots of factors, and lots of guns makes them all worse.

Actually I've driven my point to the T.

First most poor, most gun owners will never become a mass shooter like Bowers.

There is inequalities & it's not guns.

Overall theres a opposite correlation.

There is no correlation between guns & murders.

The three biggest lies of propagandas of the past & present centuries were the following.
1.) Race does not matter.
2.) Genes do not matter.
3.) More guns cause more murder.

You like most dumb Westerners believe such lies because of your poor critical thinking skills

No you haven't actually. Wasn't Serbia involved in some ethnic cleansing? You are telling me they don't have killing DNA?

 

[Brain357]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

 

[2aguy]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Leo123]

The shooter (Robert Bowers) is a Trump-hater.

 

[Brain357]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

 

[2aguy]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

You are a moron.... you know that it is culture not guns that are the issue......and their culture can no longer keep their young males crime free....that is why their gun crime and violent crime is going up, while ours is going down.....

 

[Brain357]

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

You are a moron.... you know that it is culture not guns that are the issue......and their culture can no longer keep their young males crime free....that is why their gun crime and violent crime is going up, while ours is going down.....

Ours is a bit up actually. Their homicide rates are a fraction of ours. They don't have regular mass shootings like we do.

 

[2aguy]

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

You are a moron.... you know that it is culture not guns that are the issue......and their culture can no longer keep their young males crime free....that is why their gun crime and violent crime is going up, while ours is going down.....

Ours is a bit up actually. Their homicide rates are a fraction of ours. They don't have regular mass shootings like we do.

After the Ferguson Effect of the last two years our rates are going down again, no thanks to obama and black lives matter who handicapped our police....and increased the gun murder rate over the last two years...but that is over now that Trump is in office and not attacking and blaming the police...

 

[bodecea]

The reason why Poland doesn't have this problem is quite obvious though now isn't it? There are certainly other factors like political and economic instability. But when you look at similarly stable countries, those with strong gun control have much lower homicide rates.

Hey Pinky

Guess what?

Poland can go fuck themselves

-Geaux

Guess what?

Rob Bowers the violent shooting predator & also Tennessee can go f*ck themselves, you have nearly 10X the murder rate as Poland.

Although, I don't necessarily blame this on guns, either.

Lithuania & Russia both have far, far, far, far less guns than Tennesee & still have similar murder rates to that of Tennessee.

Just some people have more aggressive, or otherwise violent individuals, according to their DNA.

If MOST of this society is NOT MURDERING people, and even less than that are like Bowers mass-shooters, then what becomes the problem?

It's obvious, the problem is DNA influencing Mental Illnesses which cause violent snapping fits, well like Bowers here.

Russia is pretty much under a dictator. That's leads to political instability. They don't exactly have a great economy either.

Do you think gun control would've stopped Bowers from killing? I don't really think so...

I thought they said similar about Poland becoming UNDEMOCRATIC, because of the so called Tribunal Court crisis?

Actually, by your logic, presumably Lithuania's a better Democracy, more Liberal, less guns, rather than Poland, so why does Lithuania have Europe's #2 murder rate & #1 suicide rate?

Gee, seems Lithuanians are violent regardless of "Government", how come??????????????

If they had their way, before they grabbed all of our guns, they would only allow us to have pump action shotguns......in Crimea, this very week, a shooter using a pump action shotgun murdered 21 people.....that is more than 8.......

The gun isn't the issue, the time in the gun free zone before the killer is confronted by a good guy with a gun is the issue.

Ghoul.

 

[2aguy]

Hey Pinky

Guess what?

Poland can go fuck themselves

-Geaux

Guess what?

Rob Bowers the violent shooting predator & also Tennessee can go f*ck themselves, you have nearly 10X the murder rate as Poland.

Although, I don't necessarily blame this on guns, either.

Lithuania & Russia both have far, far, far, far less guns than Tennesee & still have similar murder rates to that of Tennessee.

Just some people have more aggressive, or otherwise violent individuals, according to their DNA.

If MOST of this society is NOT MURDERING people, and even less than that are like Bowers mass-shooters, then what becomes the problem?

It's obvious, the problem is DNA influencing Mental Illnesses which cause violent snapping fits, well like Bowers here.

Russia is pretty much under a dictator. That's leads to political instability. They don't exactly have a great economy either.

Do you think gun control would've stopped Bowers from killing? I don't really think so...

I thought they said similar about Poland becoming UNDEMOCRATIC, because of the so called Tribunal Court crisis?

Actually, by your logic, presumably Lithuania's a better Democracy, more Liberal, less guns, rather than Poland, so why does Lithuania have Europe's #2 murder rate & #1 suicide rate?

Gee, seems Lithuanians are violent regardless of "Government", how come??????????????

If they had their way, before they grabbed all of our guns, they would only allow us to have pump action shotguns......in Crimea, this very week, a shooter using a pump action shotgun murdered 21 people.....that is more than 8.......

The gun isn't the issue, the time in the gun free zone before the killer is confronted by a good guy with a gun is the issue.

Ghoul.

You are a shit stain.....

 

[frigidweirdo]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Which is irrelevant.

You're basically pointing out the much higher crime that people are forced to defend themselves against.

With a gun in your hand you're 5 times more likely to be shot and killed than if you would find it hard to get a gun.

Rape rates in Alaska are the highest in the country, showing that guns aren't that effective at dealing with the overall problem.

But you know this already and you'll spout random facts on their own as if this is somehow proof of something.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

You are a moron.... you know that it is culture not guns that are the issue......and their culture can no longer keep their young males crime free....that is why their gun crime and violent crime is going up, while ours is going down.....

Ours is a bit up actually. Their homicide rates are a fraction of ours. They don't have regular mass shootings like we do.

After the Ferguson Effect of the last two years our rates are going down again, no thanks to obama and black lives matter who handicapped our police....and increased the gun murder rate over the last two years...but that is over now that Trump is in office and not attacking and blaming the police...

Going down to what? The murder rate is certainly NOT going down to 1 per 100,000 people per year like in most other first world countries. It's going down to 4.5 per 100,000 people per year murdered.

 

[theliq]

Yeah they stop so much murder our homicide rate is 4-5X greater than countries with strong gun control. Seems to be a highly ineffective way of stopping murders. Crime went down after we got background checks.

Wrong, you doofus...... those countries used to have low murder rates due to the personal tastes of their criminals...they did not commit murder......now, with the social welfare states destroying families in those countries and generations of young girls raising young males without fathers in the home, their violence and gun crime rates are going up....add to that their importing violent, 3rd world males and reducing their police funding and manpower and you are now seeing increasing levels of violent crime all across Europe......

Crime went down as more Americans bought, owned and carried guns....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Wrong again Doofus. They all have homicide rates a small fraction of ours. Stop the lies already. See the OP, people are dying regularly.

You are a moron.... you know that it is culture not guns that are the issue......and their culture can no longer keep their young males crime free....that is why their gun crime and violent crime is going up, while ours is going down.....

Ours is a bit up actually. Their homicide rates are a fraction of ours. They don't have regular mass shootings like we do.

After the Ferguson Effect of the last two years our rates are going down again, no thanks to obama and black lives matter who handicapped our police....and increased the gun murder rate over the last two years...but that is over now that Trump is in office and not attacking and blaming the police...

sHAMEFUL...YOU r hOPELESS

 

[theliq]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

hopeless

 

[theliq]

The guy was a Jew hater. We have a plethora of those here at the USMB.

Like most on here,you must separate Jews from Zionism THEY ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS ONE A MILIGNED PEOPLES FOR OVER 3 THOUSAND YEARS....THE OTHER A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION INVENTED IN THE 1890's

 

[Mindful]

Just breaking.

Just another day in America. 27 gun deaths on average a day.

And 1.1 million times a year guns are used by law abiding Americans to stop attacks like these and rapes, robberies and murders......

Americans who own and carry guns? As more people own and carry, our gun murder rate went down 49%...in Britain where they banned and confiscated guns...gun crime in London was up 42%.....

You don't know what you are talking about.

Which is irrelevant.

You're basically pointing out the much higher crime that people are forced to defend themselves against.

With a gun in your hand you're 5 times more likely to be shot and killed than if you would find it hard to get a gun.

Rape rates in Alaska are the highest in the country, showing that guns aren't that effective at dealing with the overall problem.

But you know this already and you'll spout random facts on their own as if this is somehow proof of something.

I'm sure that helps a lot.

I'll ponder the rape rates in Alaska when I go out on the streets later, hoping a terrorist won't mow me down with his vehicle.