Advisor: Obama Doesn't Attend Church Because It's A Distraction (Yea Right! We Know The Real Reason)

[Syriusly]

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Can you prove you were born in the US? I doubt you can even prove you even exist. I mean, it's pretty hard. We could all just be a dream, so we can't prove that basic thing, then how can we prove where we were born? A birth certificate. They can be faked. Do you remember where you were born? Hell no you don't. No one does.

What Obama can do is show that he was born in the US with as much proof as most other people born in the US.

What Obama can do is show that he was born in the US with as much proof as most other people born in the US

Beyond that- President Obama has proven his place of birth in the United States- unlike any previous President.

Think about this- none of the Birthers who demanded that Obama provide more and more proof of his birth in the United States, ever asked Mitt Romney to prove he was born in the United States.

The only candidate that they have ever asked to prove his place of birth is Barack Obama.

And that is no coincidence.

 

[Syriusly]

As expected, Obama disciples Skylar and Syriusly.

I am glad to show up and point out Stevie the Racist Birther's lies.

Stevie will lie about anything to attack the President.

And point out that Stevie is a racist who thinks that all negroes want to rape white women- and just happens to coincidentally think that our first black President is not eligible and is also a Muslim.

Why is pointing out that Obama wasn't born in this country and therefore ineligible to be president racist?

Are you a racist? You insert race where it isn't even an issue. I think that makes you a racist, just like NYcarbineer.

Quit repeating long-debunked bullshit, it makes you seem hateful and gullible. If you hate the president then just say you hate him and leave out the stupid rationalizations or at least find something that does not make you seem like a joke.

It was debunked because you say it is? No legitimate birth certificate has ever been produced, so the controversy was never laid to rest. Any objective person would agree with this, clearly something you are not.

'any objective person'

No one agrees with that claim. Not a person in Congress objected to confirming his election- twice.

It is just the ranting of idiotic and gullble Birthers.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The Registar of the State of Hawaii affirms that the information on that birth certificate is accurate and matches the original records.

So what?

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An official investigation of a duly elected Sheriff of one of the largest Sheriff's Department in the nation, state that the document is not just a forgery, but an AWFUL forgery.

Now that simply means that ONE of those two entities LIED!

The former is ONE PERSON... highly placed in and with longstanding affiliations with the same party who would have had to have KNOWN that obama was NOT a natural born citizen of the United States... and who died in a tragically FREAK accident, wherein she drowned in the airplane in which she was flying; and for FWIW, she was the only one on the plane to suffer so much as an injury.

The latter is a team of numerous individuals, all highly trained investigators... .

Hmm... Now the former is tied to irrepressible subjectivity, the latter designed to be THOROUGHLY OBJECTIVE.

So which is more credible?

Go ahead take a guess.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Not a person in Congress objected to confirming his election- twice.

And that proves what? It was a popular consensus... which again, proves what, SPECIFICALLY?

 

[Skylar]

The BC was legitimate enough for everyone except conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Several experts have said it was a forgery. Obama Birth Certificate Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

So you're wrong. As usual.

The thing about conspiracy theories is that if there was anything to it they would not be theories. Quit shitposting stupid shit.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Actually, you can dispute it. As the State of Hawaii affirms his birth in Hawaii.

Now why would a rational person ignore the State of Hawaii on its own records and instead believe you citing yourself?

Only a hack thinks that a political decision made for the sake of expediency is the same as truth. The bc was forged according to several forgery experts and no official statement can make that go away.

Who says it was a 'political decision made for the sake of expediency'? That would be you and...who?

Arbitrarily labeling anything that contradicts you as a 'political decision' doesn't actually make it so. Show us the evidence that it was a 'political decision'. As the Registrar of Hawaii has confirmed that the birth certificate was accurate and matched the original records.

Why would Douglas Vogt, a man who clearly doesn't know what he's talking about, be more reliable a source on Hawaii's vital documents than Hawaii?

Douglas Vogt has insisted that "The birth certificate would have the imprint of the baby’s footprint, weight, length and other information such as the religion." A claim utterly obliterated by OTHER birth certificates from the same weekend in 1961 that include no such information.

Your 'expert' was dead wrong.

And what does owning a scanning company have to do with the content of a birth certificate. What would make Mr. Vogt qualified to tell us what's 'supposed' to be on a birth certificate? None. And this is your 'document expert? His expertise is in UNIX coding. Not document authentication. He has no training whatsoever in his proclaimed area of expertise.

Vogt's 'analysis' is further shredded here with mistake by Vogt after comic mistake:

Reply to Douglas Vogt - Obama Conspiracy Theories

And of course, the Registar of Hawaii has already confirmed that the LFBC presented by the President is accurate and matches their original records. Demonstrating yet again that Vogt doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I'm tired of being told I need to prove something that anyone with a basic education knows. If you don't know the death tolls of Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin, it's not my job to alleviate your ignorance. You chose to be uneducated. That's on you.

I'm sure you're tired of being told stuff. But hey, you're on a message board. You tell people stuff without backing it up, it's a waste of time. So why do you come on here if you're not going to back anything up.

Do you know why people provide evidence? You know why when people write history books they don't just say "Hitler was gay", they'd actually have to back it up for their peers to be able to judge whether something was true or not.

A person who comes on here and has the debating ability of a 5 year old is what? You answer that for yourself, I don't need to insult you, just hope that one day you manage to get through your adolescent phase and grow up and become an adult on this forum.

So... are you denying that the Ideological Left murdered in excess of a hundred million people in te mid 20th century, alone, making it second only to disease in the most lethal threats to human life?

Lumping every bad guy in the history of human governance into "the left" is your first mistake.

I didn't lump every bad guy into any thing.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Arbitrarily labeling anything that contradicts you as a 'political decision' doesn't actually make it so. Show us the evidence that it was a 'political decision'.

The evidence is that the man was incapable of producing an original birth certificate... that is probable cause to investigate the man's birth origins, given the constitutional mandate that only those born to TWO US CITIZENS OKA: A Naturally born Citizen... are qualified to hold the office of POTUS.

The Election of the President is Political... the office of the President is Political... and the investigation into the Presidential candidates and the President, is political... .

That no investigation was executed is proof certain that the decision to NOT investigate was political in nature.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

No. I'm asking you to back up the statement you made.

Question 1. Do you know how many people were killed by Christians in the history of the world?

In the name of Christ? Meaning that such were killed because those who did the killing stated that such was necessary because Christ required it? I would say that such would be limited to the Inquisition, which the best estimates vary between 14,000 and 20,000 over several hundred years. Which is less than half of the 42,000 murdered by the humanist Robespierre in "The Terror" which occurred over the year following the French Revolution: Which was the first known instance of "Terrorism" in the Western Hemisphere and a function of the first communist (humanist) push in the western hemisphere.

Second, and by tediously pedantic definition would be the defensive battles of the Christian world in response to the Islamic Crusades, which killed an estimated 600,000 - 1,000,000 over a period of some 700 years.

Question 2. Do you know how many people were killed by Muslims in the history of the world?

Best estimates are to date... 1,000,000 1.5 million since it's medieval founding.

Now, compare THAT to the 150 MILLION that Humanism (Relativism, Socialism, Leftism) murdered over a period of 30 years in the mid 20th Century ALONE... in periods of PEACETIME... without counting the two world wars caused by the same, which only adds another 15- 20 million including all casualties. the bulk of those being the fascists (Socialist) fighting the Communist (Socialists) .

Of course those figures also do not account for the 300 million pre-born children murdered by humanism... 50 million murdered right here in the United States, by the same perverse 'Humanist" reasoning... .

 

[Syriusly]

The Registar of the State of Hawaii affirms that the information on that birth certificate is accurate and matches the original records.

So what?

.
.
.

An official investigation of a duly elected Sheriff of one of the largest Sheriff's Department in the nation, state that the document is not just a forgery, but an AWFUL forgery.

Now that simply means that ONE of those two entities LIED!

The former is ONE PERSON... highly placed in and with longstanding affiliations with the same party who would have had to have KNOWN that obama was NOT a natural born citizen of the United States... and who died in a tragically FREAK accident, wherein she drowned in the airplane in which she was flying; and for FWIW, she was the only one on the plane to suffer so much as an injury.

The latter is a team of numerous individuals, all highly trained investigators... .

Hmm... Now the former is tied to irrepressible subjectivity, the latter designed to be THOROUGHLY OBJECTIVE.

So which is more credible?

Go ahead take a guess.

An official investigation? Hardly. It was by citizen volunteers- and we still have yet to see anything more than a Press conference- a year ago.

The former is ONE PERSON... highly placed in and with longstanding affiliations with the same party who would have had to have KNOWN that obama was NOT a natural born citizen of the United States... and who died in a tragically FREAK accident, wherein she drowned in the airplane in which she was flying; and for FWIW, she was the only one on the plane to suffer so much as an injury.

No- she was merely one of several people who officially confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii

Such as the Republican former Director of Health

STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital
records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

And then we have the Registrar of Voters- Alvin Onaka- a civil servant- who has confirmed Barack Obama's birth in Hawaii to several Secretaries of State.

That is at a minimum 3 professionals in Hawaii- with the specific duty to protect Birth certificates who have gone on record officially that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

And then we have this claim of yours:

The latter is a team of numerous individuals, all highly trained investigators...

And who would those be? The only one we know of is Mike Zullo- a former used car salesman- who signed a book deal with a Birther before his 'investigation' and has accepted a $10,000 payment from a Birther 'source'.

How exactly is Mike Zullo 'highly trained'? Who are the others? We don't know, because like everything in this so called investigation- no one is saying anything- but we may get another Press Conference- real soon.

So yes- who do we believe- 3 officials selected and trained to handle Birth Certificates for the State of Hawaii or a used car salesman who has a Birther book deal on the line?

Who has more to lose by making false claims- the three officials with careers to consider or the volunteer ex-used car salesman?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

It was debunked because you say it is? No legitimate birth certificate has ever been produced, so the controversy was never laid to rest. Any objective person would agree with this, clearly something you are not.

The BC was legitimate enough for everyone except conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Several experts have said it was a forgery. Obama Birth Certificate Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

So you're wrong. As usual.

The thing about conspiracy theories is that if there was anything to it they would not be theories. Quit shitposting stupid shit.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Now why would a rational person ignore the State of Hawaii on its own records?

Maybe because of things like below in the link that can happen in vital statistics departments. If it can happen in New Jersey, it can happen in Hawaii.

NJ Office of Vital Statistics Employee Busted For Role In Phony Birth Certificate Scheme:

Ex-Newark City Hall employee admits role in bogus birth certificate scheme NJ.com

 

[Syriusly]

No. I'm asking you to back up the statement you made.

Question 1. Do you know how many people were killed by Christians in the history of the world?

In the name of Christ? . .

yet the original argument was people killed by 'atheists'- you then leave out people killed by Christians.

Stalin didn't kill people in the name of atheism. Hitler didn't kill people in the name of atheism. Pol Pot didn't kill people in the name of atheism.

If you are going to include every murderous event where the leader is an atheist- and exclude those whose leaders just happen to be a Christian- well then you are just being a typical Conservative poster.

 

[Syriusly]

The BC was legitimate enough for everyone except conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Several experts have said it was a forgery. Obama Birth Certificate Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

So you're wrong. As usual.

The thing about conspiracy theories is that if there was anything to it they would not be theories. Quit shitposting stupid shit.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Now why would a rational person ignore the State of Hawaii on its own records?

Maybe because of things like below in the link that can happen in vital statistics departments. If it can happen in New Jersey, it can happen in Hawaii.

NJ Office of Vital Statistics Employee Busted For Role In Phony Birth Certificate Scheme:

Ex-Newark City Hall employee admits role in bogus birth certificate scheme NJ.com

Well of course- if it has happened anywhere ever, then of course that means we can't trust Barack Obama's birth certificate......despite the absolute lack of evidence of any fraud within the Department of Health in Hawaii

 

[Syriusly]

The BC was legitimate enough for everyone except conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Several experts have said it was a forgery. Obama Birth Certificate Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

So you're wrong. As usual.

The thing about conspiracy theories is that if there was anything to it they would not be theories. Quit shitposting stupid shit.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Now why would a rational person ignore the State of Hawaii on its own records?

Maybe because of things like below in the link that can happen in vital statistics departments. If it can happen in New Jersey, it can happen in Hawaii.

NJ Office of Vital Statistics Employee Busted For Role In Phony Birth Certificate Scheme:

Ex-Newark City Hall employee admits role in bogus birth certificate scheme NJ.com

And of course such things happen in Arizona too....in Sheriff Arpaio's own county- to his own buddies.....

PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona ethics board disbarred Maricopa County’s former top prosecutor on Tuesday for violating the rules of conduct for lawyers in bringing criminal charges against two county officials and a judge in December 2009 with the purpose of embarrassing them.Editors

All three investigations were dismissed after a judge ruled that Andrew Thomas, the former county attorney, had prosecuted one of the officials for political gain and had a conflict of interest. Other county officials and judges who were at odds with Mr. Thomas and his top ally, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, were also investigated by the two but were not charged.

 

[Syriusly]

Arbitrarily labeling anything that contradicts you as a 'political decision' doesn't actually make it so. Show us the evidence that it was a 'political decision'.

The evidence is that the man was incapable of producing an original birth certificate... that is probable cause to investigate the man's birth origins, given the constitutional mandate that only those born to TWO US CITIZENS OKA: A Naturally born Citizen... are qualified to hold the office of POTUS..

There is not one actual true statement in your entire post.

 

[occupied]

I'm tired of being told I need to prove something that anyone with a basic education knows. If you don't know the death tolls of Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin, it's not my job to alleviate your ignorance. You chose to be uneducated. That's on you.

I'm sure you're tired of being told stuff. But hey, you're on a message board. You tell people stuff without backing it up, it's a waste of time. So why do you come on here if you're not going to back anything up.

Do you know why people provide evidence? You know why when people write history books they don't just say "Hitler was gay", they'd actually have to back it up for their peers to be able to judge whether something was true or not.

A person who comes on here and has the debating ability of a 5 year old is what? You answer that for yourself, I don't need to insult you, just hope that one day you manage to get through your adolescent phase and grow up and become an adult on this forum.

So... are you denying that the Ideological Left murdered in excess of a hundred million people in te mid 20th century, alone, making it second only to disease in the most lethal threats to human life?

Lumping every bad guy in the history of human governance into "the left" is your first mistake.

I didn't lump every bad guy into any thing.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Sure you did, not the first time I have encountered some right-wing person putting Stalin, Hitler, and every other 20th century authoritarian dictator in the same camp as American progressives. It's politically retarded and potentially dangerous to believe your conservative leaders are ideologically incapable of tyranny. Any ideology can be used as a road to dictatorship, no exceptions, especially ones that get nationalism and religion all mixed up together.

 

[Syriusly]

Not a person in Congress objected to confirming his election- twice.

And that proves what? It was a popular consensus... which again, proves what, SPECIFICALLY?

it proves that no one in Congress believes in Birther idiocy.

While many in Congress may not be rational- Birthers are reduced to claiming that everyone in Congress is irrational because they accept that Barack Obama was not only legally elected, but is also Constitutionally eligible.

Birthers are gullible idiots.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Mike Zullo is highly qualified in law enforcement. He worked as a New Jersey police officer and then a private investigator. He has also training by the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office and with other former fully trained police officers, they utilized the full resources of that law enforcement department to investigate the birth certificate finding it a 100% forged document. Their findings puts the statements by the Hawaii Dept of Healths former directors Chiyome Fukino and Loretta Fuddy as not being truthful.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's because there's no room for him to put his prayer rug down.


obama my muslim faith - YouTube


Love the comment section.
Obama Doesn t Attend Church So As Not to Distract Others Says Advisor - Breitbart

Reagan didn't attend church either dumbass.

Reagan didn't have a secret muslim past to hide, dumber asser.

What "Muslim" past Obama has isn't hidden, and Reagan fucked everything in a skirt in his time, not to mention getting his girlfriend (Nancy) knocked up before he married her, but he's your Good Christian Hero President I bet because once a year he said abortion was bad, and then did nothing at all to change it, year after year.

I never said Reagan was a Christian. And obama is always trying to obscure his muslim past because it very likely isn't just his past.

God you people are morons. Obama is about as Muslin as the Pope, and a far better Christian than most Americans, who don't give a shit for anything beyond taking care of number one and a free and easy ticket to Heaven.

PaintMyHouse,

What is wrong with being Muslim? or Atheist?

Why do we have to be idiots like these guys? Some of these guys are paranoid bigots...

If Obama was a Muslim (and of course a Islamic Fundamentalist), he has a piss poor job of destroying the country

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The BC was legitimate enough for everyone except conspiracy nuts like yourself.

Several experts have said it was a forgery. Obama Birth Certificate Confirmed Forgery According To Top Experts

So you're wrong. As usual.

The thing about conspiracy theories is that if there was anything to it they would not be theories. Quit shitposting stupid shit.

You're calling it a conspiracy theory, not me. It's a fact that Obama cannot prove he was born in this country. That's incontrovertible truth you can't dispute.

Now why would a rational person ignore the State of Hawaii on its own records?

Maybe because of things like below in the link that can happen in vital statistics departments. If it can happen in New Jersey, it can happen in Hawaii.

NJ Office of Vital Statistics Employee Busted For Role In Phony Birth Certificate Scheme:

Ex-Newark City Hall employee admits role in bogus birth certificate scheme NJ.com

LOL! Imagine that?? A corrupt government official, being corrupt and in NEW JERSEY! The land of Left... .

But you have to understand that She's leaning on the impeccable credibility of obama... the guy who, until he ran for President, claimed he was a naturalized citizen of the US who had been born in Kenya. At least according to his own website... and that of his publisher.

You remember the publisher? The idiot that published two books, written by a person who told the biograhical stories of a jackass and his communist progenitor, neither of whom had not done a DAM' THING!

 

[Mac1958]

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I strongly suspect there's a LOT of politicians who go to church for one reason and one reason only: To be seen going to church.

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