After the last few weeks I too have made a decision

It is one of a long list of disasters, just ask trump. Bush is the guy we saw on tv pushing for it. He gets to take credit.

Bull shit, the Democrats gave him the votes he needed to do it, the blood is on your hands. Your party is responsible for what you did, man up to it

I'm an independent. President is the commander in chief. He was the one telling us all why it needed to be done. Many Dems voted wrong, but I didn't see any on tv strongly pushing for it.


Uhhh, you need to go back and see what both Clintons said about going into Iraq and about Saddam and WMDs. They were very public comments and said exactly the same things that Bush said.

Clinton was misled by the Republicans you know ...


riiiiight, they were too stupid to find the truth and mean old W outfoxed them. But I thought they said W was an idiot-----

I'd click your sarcasm detector, I think the needle is sticking. You know I've been arguing that Democrats are responsible for their own actions through the whole discussion, right?
 
I'm an independent. President is the commander in chief. He was the one telling us all why it needed to be done. Many Dems voted wrong, but I didn't see any on tv strongly pushing for it.

You're an independent who thinks when Democrats do something wrong, it's the fault of the .... wait for it ... Republicans. Sssuuuuurrrrreeee you are. I of course in thinking both parties are responsible for their own actions and they both are responsible for our disasterous middle east policy am of course a partisan Republican. You people are classic

Did you notice that when Bill Clinton was commander in chief we didn't get stuck in any long, disasterous wars? Sorry, but if you are commander in chief you get credit for the war.

WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
 
Your solution to the Democrat hands that are guilty are to do things like vote for her for President in November. Your indignation is feigned for cheap political points.

Now I actually am against the wars, but you are no ally. For you it's all about pumping Democrat willies, morality has zero to do with it
I'm against wars too especially those that the country is bullshitted into I voted for that moron gwb and it was my last vote for a republican ever

You never voted for a Republican in your life. You and the brainless independent are terrible liars.

So again, you're not responsible for your own vote, Democrats aren't responsible for their votes, you're a man in search of a willy. You need to man up and be accountable for your own bad choices, and Democrats do too.

Your solution? Vote in November for someone who voted for the war, you are a convictionless seaweed flowing with the tide
I certainly hold myself responsible for my vote I wasn't smart enough to see that the moron was such an ah,,,,,and btw I was a repub all my life

I was a republican till the bush disaster.

Then you turned into a hard core leftist on every subject? How did W convince you that the Democrats were right on every subject exactly?

What is it you think you agreed with Republicans on? You're a terrible liar, just like all the ridiculous leftists who make that claim. There was in fact no Democratic party before W, that's when he created you. Our memories otherwise be damned!

You can look at my posting history here and see I am not left on everything.

Well I think we should be fiscally responsible and have balanced budgets. I saw a democrat hand a balanced budget to a republican. The republican spent and spent. My eyes were opened. Republicans run on one thing and then do something else.
 
I will NEVER vote for Donald Trump.

1. Retweeting a bad photo of Cruz’s wife along side a beautiful photo his own wife.
2. Mocking Rubios ears & short stature.
3. Bullying everyone he disagrees with
4. Dodging serious questions to avoid exposing his lack of knowledge.
5. Wants to kill the families of terrorists.
6. Lowering the public discourse of our nation to that of a junior high school locker room.
7. Has flip flopped on almost every major issue important to a REAL conservative. (I went there, deal with it)
8. Has given money to liberal politicians to buy favor despite the positions those liberals held.
9. The most shallow person besides Edwards to run for potus in my lifetime.


For the first time in my life I don't have a candidate that I believe in & I will NOT be voting against anyone either.
The American people created the mess our country is in by continually reelecting corrupt politicians. If Hillary wins America gets what it deserves for being uninformed dupes. Same goes for a Trump victory.



In this aspect I suppose I will be as popular as rderp for his proclamation earlier this week.
he's a counterpuncher and and a winner. he is the opposite of obama clinton and sanders. the reason i want him, is precisely because he can survive and win, despite just about everyone being against him. he's brought new voters into the cycle, and he has exposed the media, and singlehandedly flipped the entire political process. not bad for a new politician. i will give him every opportunity to fix the awful mess this country is in. he's a doer, not just a talker like the others. people see that, people who vote.

i'd much rather have a refreshingly honest and scrapp ypolitical newcomer, than a polished albeit sneaky hypocritical infected carrier of the socialism blues.

he understands loyalty, and he doesn't ever disparage our fine military or American police, which i like.

he doesn't create jobs by spending taxpayer money. he contributes more tax money to sustain the poor than all of the other candidates combined. he's not a leach on the American economy like the global warming hoaxists.

your thread is no winner, for someone like me. it's easy to pile on, join the groupthink mob mentality people, the hard part is saying what you believe, instead of what some superpac or union tells you to.

these a just a few of the reasons he's so popular with us.

remember liberals have to come to our rallies to poke the bear and find some excitement, because going your candidates rallies is like standing in front of an oil painting.

he won't have meetings with the leftist media to control the news. he will never help our enemies like obama. either we have a country or we don't, that i can tell you.

i had to find out why this thread got so many golds stars as a winner, which clearly it is not for many. but it separates the the socialists from the rest of us, which is fine.
 
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You're an independent who thinks when Democrats do something wrong, it's the fault of the .... wait for it ... Republicans. Sssuuuuurrrrreeee you are. I of course in thinking both parties are responsible for their own actions and they both are responsible for our disasterous middle east policy am of course a partisan Republican. You people are classic

Did you notice that when Bill Clinton was commander in chief we didn't get stuck in any long, disasterous wars? Sorry, but if you are commander in chief you get credit for the war.

WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar
 
I'm against wars too especially those that the country is bullshitted into I voted for that moron gwb and it was my last vote for a republican ever

You never voted for a Republican in your life. You and the brainless independent are terrible liars.

So again, you're not responsible for your own vote, Democrats aren't responsible for their votes, you're a man in search of a willy. You need to man up and be accountable for your own bad choices, and Democrats do too.

Your solution? Vote in November for someone who voted for the war, you are a convictionless seaweed flowing with the tide
I certainly hold myself responsible for my vote I wasn't smart enough to see that the moron was such an ah,,,,,and btw I was a repub all my life

I was a republican till the bush disaster.

Then you turned into a hard core leftist on every subject? How did W convince you that the Democrats were right on every subject exactly?

What is it you think you agreed with Republicans on? You're a terrible liar, just like all the ridiculous leftists who make that claim. There was in fact no Democratic party before W, that's when he created you. Our memories otherwise be damned!

You can look at my posting history here and see I am not left on everything.

Well I think we should be fiscally responsible and have balanced budgets. I saw a democrat hand a balanced budget to a republican. The republican spent and spent. My eyes were opened. Republicans run on one thing and then do something else.

I debate you all the time, and you are a leftist everywhere. Funny how you can't think of anything though that isn't Democrat. But you know it's there. That being while we talk about your positions, LOL

And you repeat the lie for Slick that they guy who had the national debt go up every year had a balanced budget.

But you're against deficits, but have zero proposal how to do that. It's like being in favor of trees, wow, cutting edge. Democrats think high taxes cause balanced budgets, that doesn't clarify anything
 
Did you notice that when Bill Clinton was commander in chief we didn't get stuck in any long, disasterous wars? Sorry, but if you are commander in chief you get credit for the war.

WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.
 
You're an independent who thinks when Democrats do something wrong, it's the fault of the .... wait for it ... Republicans. Sssuuuuurrrrreeee you are. I of course in thinking both parties are responsible for their own actions and they both are responsible for our disasterous middle east policy am of course a partisan Republican. You people are classic

Did you notice that when Bill Clinton was commander in chief we didn't get stuck in any long, disasterous wars? Sorry, but if you are commander in chief you get credit for the war.

WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have had to if the sleazy pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of getting impeached.

clinton the creep couldn't control himself, and he stole much of America's innocence and future. great Americans died because bill clinton was/is an untreated sex addict.
his hands should have on the destruction of osama bin laden, and not monica lewinsky's ass.

i for one cannot so easily forgive him for that. there are two sets of standards for libs and conservatives. ironically, it's the people who don't contribute much that usually choose the former.

people who work really hard resent that.
 
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You never voted for a Republican in your life. You and the brainless independent are terrible liars.

So again, you're not responsible for your own vote, Democrats aren't responsible for their votes, you're a man in search of a willy. You need to man up and be accountable for your own bad choices, and Democrats do too.

Your solution? Vote in November for someone who voted for the war, you are a convictionless seaweed flowing with the tide
I certainly hold myself responsible for my vote I wasn't smart enough to see that the moron was such an ah,,,,,and btw I was a repub all my life

I was a republican till the bush disaster.

Then you turned into a hard core leftist on every subject? How did W convince you that the Democrats were right on every subject exactly?

What is it you think you agreed with Republicans on? You're a terrible liar, just like all the ridiculous leftists who make that claim. There was in fact no Democratic party before W, that's when he created you. Our memories otherwise be damned!

You can look at my posting history here and see I am not left on everything.

Well I think we should be fiscally responsible and have balanced budgets. I saw a democrat hand a balanced budget to a republican. The republican spent and spent. My eyes were opened. Republicans run on one thing and then do something else.

I debate you all the time, and you are a leftist everywhere. Funny how you can't think of anything though that isn't Democrat. But you know it's there. That being while we talk about your positions, LOL

And you repeat the lie for Slick that they guy who had the national debt go up every year had a balanced budget.

But you're against deficits, but have zero proposal how to do that. It's like being in favor of trees, wow, cutting edge. Democrats think high taxes cause balanced budgets, that doesn't clarify anything

So you won't look at my history? That would seem to be the way to clear it up. I debate a lot of people.

Well you won't get rid of a deficit by giving tax breaks to the richest and spending on the military.
 
Did you notice that when Bill Clinton was commander in chief we didn't get stuck in any long, disasterous wars? Sorry, but if you are commander in chief you get credit for the war.

WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.
 
WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.
lucky for me, my sentiment isn't pinned to your having to.
you just carry on, everything will be fine... as far as you know :)
 
WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.

Me saying you and Republicans are both responsible for the war is me defending Bush and being a "liar"

You saying that when Clinton invaded northern Iraq, preventing Iraq from flying over their own country and bombed Iraq it didn't change anything and wasn't starting a war, then you say Democrats weren't responsible for voting for it and W lied when he said Hussein who used WMDs wasn't a threat and he didn't have them, well, that's just being honest and observing what's going on.

Classic. Yes, Republicans all say the war is both parties fault, that's what you've observed, so of course I'm in lock step with Republicans. You really are an imbicile
 
WTF? He was in Iraq through most of his Presidency, he had a policy of "regime change," and when W invaded over WMDs and didn't find them, he said, "I saw the same intelligence and interpreted it the same way." And his wife voted for the invasion. You know, his wife that you and your "independent" thinking are going to vote for in six months for President.

You are a liar, and a bad one. You're a partisan Democrat out for cheap political points and you're willing to pay the price of your manhood to get them.

The war was bad policy, it would be nice to have Democrats on our side. But you clearly and repeatedly show you aren't on the side of actual opposition to the war, you're only in opposition to losing elections to Republicans

And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.

Obviously he's saying W would have not had to invade if Clinton had focused on doing his job instead of not being able to keep it in his pants. I mean duh, you really couldn't read that?
 
And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.

Me saying you and Republicans are both responsible for the war is me defending Bush and being a "liar"

You saying that when Clinton invaded northern Iraq, preventing Iraq from flying over their own country and bombed Iraq it didn't change anything and wasn't starting a war, then you say Democrats weren't responsible for voting for it and W lied when he said Hussein who used WMDs wasn't a threat and he didn't have them, well, that's just being honest and observing what's going on.

Classic. Yes, Republicans all say the war is both parties fault, that's what you've observed, so of course I'm in lock step with Republicans. You really are an imbicile

All of your babbling has made it clear you are an imbecile. If you can't tell the difference between what Clinton did and the disasterous war bush started you are hopeless.
 
And yet with the same info Clinton did not start a disasterous war. That is all Bush, just ask trump.

If trump is the other option, every adult should vote for Hillary. I like kasich, but the repubs are voting for a child.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.

Obviously he's saying W would have not had to invade if Clinton had focused on doing his job instead of not being able to keep it in his pants. I mean duh, you really couldn't read that?

We would all be much better off if bush hadn't been doing his job.

Our country did great under Clinton. Great economy, no pointless wars, balanced budget....
 
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.

Me saying you and Republicans are both responsible for the war is me defending Bush and being a "liar"

You saying that when Clinton invaded northern Iraq, preventing Iraq from flying over their own country and bombed Iraq it didn't change anything and wasn't starting a war, then you say Democrats weren't responsible for voting for it and W lied when he said Hussein who used WMDs wasn't a threat and he didn't have them, well, that's just being honest and observing what's going on.

Classic. Yes, Republicans all say the war is both parties fault, that's what you've observed, so of course I'm in lock step with Republicans. You really are an imbicile

All of your babbling has made it clear you are an imbecile. If you can't tell the difference between what Clinton did and the disasterous war bush started you are hopeless.

Clinton invaded northern Iraq, W invaded the whole country and Democrats voted for it, wow, different completely, LOL
 
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

As I keep pointing out and you keep ignoring, Clinton DID start the war there. No fly zones over the north and south and boots on the ground in Kurdish territory removing it from Iraq.

Those aren't acts of war? Seriously? And you think you even have a brain much less one worth mentioning?

The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.

Obviously he's saying W would have not had to invade if Clinton had focused on doing his job instead of not being able to keep it in his pants. I mean duh, you really couldn't read that?

We would all be much better off if bush hadn't been doing his job.

Our country did great under Clinton. Great economy, no pointless wars, balanced budget....

If we had a balance budget under Slick, why did the National Debt go up every year he was President? Your lies for the Democrats never end ...

And again, if you supported the war as you claimed, presumably for WMDs which is what Democrats always claim, why did you stop supporting the war? Since he used WMDs, he was a threat, why did "stockpiles" make any difference to you?
 
The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.

Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.

Me saying you and Republicans are both responsible for the war is me defending Bush and being a "liar"

You saying that when Clinton invaded northern Iraq, preventing Iraq from flying over their own country and bombed Iraq it didn't change anything and wasn't starting a war, then you say Democrats weren't responsible for voting for it and W lied when he said Hussein who used WMDs wasn't a threat and he didn't have them, well, that's just being honest and observing what's going on.

Classic. Yes, Republicans all say the war is both parties fault, that's what you've observed, so of course I'm in lock step with Republicans. You really are an imbicile

All of your babbling has made it clear you are an imbecile. If you can't tell the difference between what Clinton did and the disasterous war bush started you are hopeless.

Clinton invaded northern Iraq, W invaded the whole country and Democrats voted for it, wow, different completely, LOL

Yes it is completely different. One destabilized the whole region, one did not. You really should stop now, you couldn't look any stupider.
 
The fact is Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He didn't start the war that was pointless and lasted years.
wouldn't have to if the pervert in the chair before him would have done his job, instead of being impeached.

I can't pretend that made sense.

Obviously he's saying W would have not had to invade if Clinton had focused on doing his job instead of not being able to keep it in his pants. I mean duh, you really couldn't read that?

We would all be much better off if bush hadn't been doing his job.

Our country did great under Clinton. Great economy, no pointless wars, balanced budget....

If we had a balance budget under Slick, why did the National Debt go up every year he was President? Your lies for the Democrats never end ...

I'm sure all the repubs who claim that balanced budget are liars too. You are a joke.
 
Ah, so now we change the standard from "starting a war" to "invade Iraq." You are a mindless mouthpiece for Democrats. And you're still wrong, he invaded the Kurdish region of Iraq, which is Iraq, Holmes. And seriously, beyond that, not allowing Iraq to fly over their own country and bombing communications facilities and other sites while having an official position of "regime change," yeah, he's the peace President. You're a mindless drone.

Oh yeah, and while you make every excuse for Democrats, you were a Republican until you switched to the party that prevented Iraq from flying over their own country, bombed them and removed the Kurdish region from government control, voted to invade Iraq and then decided they were lied to because that the guy who used WMDs had them turned out to be a lie. And you switched your positions on everything else to the Democrat view at the same time.

LOL, as I said, you are a terrible liar

None of that changed anything. Clinton didn't invade and start the disasterous war. That is a fact. You sure defend bush a lot. Seems the liar is you. Just ask trump, all bushes fault. That is what republicans support. You are alone in your idiocy.

Me saying you and Republicans are both responsible for the war is me defending Bush and being a "liar"

You saying that when Clinton invaded northern Iraq, preventing Iraq from flying over their own country and bombed Iraq it didn't change anything and wasn't starting a war, then you say Democrats weren't responsible for voting for it and W lied when he said Hussein who used WMDs wasn't a threat and he didn't have them, well, that's just being honest and observing what's going on.

Classic. Yes, Republicans all say the war is both parties fault, that's what you've observed, so of course I'm in lock step with Republicans. You really are an imbicile

All of your babbling has made it clear you are an imbecile. If you can't tell the difference between what Clinton did and the disasterous war bush started you are hopeless.

Clinton invaded northern Iraq, W invaded the whole country and Democrats voted for it, wow, different completely, LOL

Yes it is completely different. One destabilized the whole region, one did not. You really should stop now, you couldn't look any stupider.

You do love to blow the black President. So if the Iraq war destabilized the region, why do you vote for the party that authorized W to do the invasion? Why are you going to vote for a woman who voted for the invasion?
 

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