Alien Life? You better hope God exists!

Time and space are dimensions in a physical universe. Before the universe began, time and space did not exist. If they existed, then a physical universe existed. You can't have the dimensions of a physical universe without a physical universe, it's tautological.
Time and space are ONE dimension, and time exists in terms of motion. As long as you have motion you have time. The Third Law of Thermodynamics says there is no temperature at which all motion stops, AKA Absolute Zero.
 
Newton's Laws of Motion aren't what proves energy and matter cannot exist without time and space. The Laws of Motion indicate a universe in motion was set into motion. Our universe is in motion, therefore we can conclude it was set into motion by some force. If it was set into motion, then it isn't eternal, it had a beginning. We believe that was about 14.5 billion years ago if our physical calculations are correct.
No, of course, Newtonian inertia was found to be flawed by Einstein. Newton inertia states a body in motion stays in motion and a body at rest stays at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. According to Einstein, there is no such thing as a body at rest, everything is constantly being acted on by outside forces.

Albert Einstein and the Theory of Relativity

Special Relativity

FIRST POSTULATE OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY: there is NO SUCH THING AS ABSOLUTE REST

It's sad, now you are trying to refute Newton in order to disbelieve in God. Shameful.
 
Newton's Laws of Motion aren't what proves energy and matter cannot exist without time and space. The Laws of Motion indicate a universe in motion was set into motion. Our universe is in motion, therefore we can conclude it was set into motion by some force. If it was set into motion, then it isn't eternal, it had a beginning. We believe that was about 14.5 billion years ago if our physical calculations are correct.
No, of course, Newtonian inertia was found to be flawed by Einstein. Newton inertia states a body in motion stays in motion and a body at rest stays at rest unless acted upon by an outside force. According to Einstein, there is no such thing as a body at rest, everything is constantly being acted on by outside forces.

Albert Einstein and the Theory of Relativity

Special Relativity

FIRST POSTULATE OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY: there is NO SUCH THING AS ABSOLUTE REST

It's sad, now you are trying to refute Newton in order to disbelieve in God. Shameful.
I only pointed out the well known flaw in Newtonian Inertia. If there was such a thing as a body at rest, it would remain at rest unless acted on by an outside force so in that respect Newton was correct, his error, that Einstein found, was that there is no such thing as a body at rest.
That's physics.
 
Time and space are dimensions in a physical universe. Before the universe began, time and space did not exist. If they existed, then a physical universe existed. You can't have the dimensions of a physical universe without a physical universe, it's tautological.
Time and space are ONE dimension, and time exists in terms of motion. As long as you have motion you have time. The Third Law of Thermodynamics says there is no temperature at which all motion stops, AKA Absolute Zero.

*sigh* Nope... Space and Time are actually FOUR dimensions. These FOUR dimensions are essential for the perception of a physical reality we experience. Please stop being so incredibly stupid or turn in your science credentials.
 
Time and space are dimensions in a physical universe. Before the universe began, time and space did not exist. If they existed, then a physical universe existed. You can't have the dimensions of a physical universe without a physical universe, it's tautological.
Time and space are ONE dimension, and time exists in terms of motion. As long as you have motion you have time. The Third Law of Thermodynamics says there is no temperature at which all motion stops, AKA Absolute Zero.

*sigh* Nope... Space and Time are actually FOUR dimensions. These FOUR dimensions are essential for the perception of a physical reality we experience. Please stop being so incredibly stupid or turn in your science credentials.
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. Ten dimensions are used to describe string theory, eleven dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory, and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. Ten dimensions are used to describe string theory, eleven dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory, and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.

^^^ Does not refute anything I said. But thanks anyway.
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. Ten dimensions are used to describe string theory, eleven dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory, and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.

^^^ Does not refute anything I said. But thanks anyway.
You still have not proven how all motion stopped so time did not exist until it was created by a non-physical spirit.
 
Of course the universes are confined to science. They are born live and die. The cosmos are alive you can clearly see. You are a part of it.

Anyways this is something we need to stop telling our children this lie. I just realized this is how we are holding the masses back. Instead of telling a young child the scientific truth we lie about a creator and we point to holy books as evidence. Your denial of evolution and global warming are evidence

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. Back when Isaac Newton was writing Principia and formulating the Laws of Motion.... people of that time were sharing the story of Jesus Christ, the baby in the manger, the Great Flood, Moses parting the Red Sea and the Ten Commandments..... all of that was being discussed among the people of the time. In fact, Newton himself spent the later part of his life writing what would eventually become the basis for modern Protestant Doctrine. He acknowledged a "mercurial spirit" coursing through our universe which could not be explained by physics which he largely created.

When Constantine ruled over Rome, he was the first emperor to convert to Christianity. He was instrumental in the Edict of Milan which delivered religious tolerance for Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. This particular religious belief was very important to the people of that time, just as it is today.

But let's go back WAY further... let's go back 70,000 years to Lake Mungo. This is where we've found the remains of some of the oldest human civilization. They actually buried the dead with ceremonial rituals using red ocher. This means, even way back then, humans believed in spiritual nature.... something greater beyond the physical.

Now, all of a sudden... just in your lifetime, you have some silly obscure notion that something you have to say is going to simply erase all those years of human thought? That, somehow, mankind is simply going to abandon thinking about the spirit or spiritual things because... you're "smarter" than anyone ever to have roamed the Earth? Because you've adopted a faith-based belief in theories you cannot prove... and that's the whole basis on which you think humanity is to abandon it's age old beliefs. That's just incredible to me that you would even contemplate such a thing.
Well that’s what’s happening anywhere that’s not fundamentally religious. People are evolving to not be spiritual religious nuts. Even you only argue for a vague concept of god. Generic. You are proof religion is going away.

Imagine when more people like you stop telling the religious lies. The awakening has begun.

By the way the day newton started getting religious was the day he stopped coming up with new ideas. Neal Debra’s Tyson explained that yes he did get religious and he proved nothing after that. What a waste. What great new invention or discovery came from looking for god? Usually god stays out of the science lab

Isaac Newton was "religious" his entire life. He attended Trinity College, a religious university, on the letter of his uncle who was a reverend. Among his early writings was his listing of sins before age 19. Maybe "Neal Debra" was too stupid to read up on Newton? :dunno:

In any event, the world has always had people like you. Never has there been more than about 5% nihilists among the general population, the rest of us are spiritually connected. Now you can fool yourself into thinking that you're making a difference with your rants and protests but nothing you have ever said has changed my mind one iota and I bet I speak for the overwhelming majority of people here and on the planet. You are totally inconsequential.

Half the people in church are faking it. Our numbers are as high as 30% and growing.
 
And of course everyone is spiritual. How many of us are lied to/brainwashed at a young age to believe God did it? To believe god walked on water and sent his son and all those lies? Of course most people are still brainwashed.
 
Of course the universes are confined to science. They are born live and die. The cosmos are alive you can clearly see. You are a part of it.

Anyways this is something we need to stop telling our children this lie. I just realized this is how we are holding the masses back. Instead of telling a young child the scientific truth we lie about a creator and we point to holy books as evidence. Your denial of evolution and global warming are evidence

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. Back when Isaac Newton was writing Principia and formulating the Laws of Motion.... people of that time were sharing the story of Jesus Christ, the baby in the manger, the Great Flood, Moses parting the Red Sea and the Ten Commandments..... all of that was being discussed among the people of the time. In fact, Newton himself spent the later part of his life writing what would eventually become the basis for modern Protestant Doctrine. He acknowledged a "mercurial spirit" coursing through our universe which could not be explained by physics which he largely created.

When Constantine ruled over Rome, he was the first emperor to convert to Christianity. He was instrumental in the Edict of Milan which delivered religious tolerance for Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. This particular religious belief was very important to the people of that time, just as it is today.

But let's go back WAY further... let's go back 70,000 years to Lake Mungo. This is where we've found the remains of some of the oldest human civilization. They actually buried the dead with ceremonial rituals using red ocher. This means, even way back then, humans believed in spiritual nature.... something greater beyond the physical.

Now, all of a sudden... just in your lifetime, you have some silly obscure notion that something you have to say is going to simply erase all those years of human thought? That, somehow, mankind is simply going to abandon thinking about the spirit or spiritual things because... you're "smarter" than anyone ever to have roamed the Earth? Because you've adopted a faith-based belief in theories you cannot prove... and that's the whole basis on which you think humanity is to abandon it's age old beliefs. That's just incredible to me that you would even contemplate such a thing.
Well that’s what’s happening anywhere that’s not fundamentally religious. People are evolving to not be spiritual religious nuts. Even you only argue for a vague concept of god. Generic. You are proof religion is going away.

Imagine when more people like you stop telling the religious lies. The awakening has begun.

By the way the day newton started getting religious was the day he stopped coming up with new ideas. Neal Debra’s Tyson explained that yes he did get religious and he proved nothing after that. What a waste. What great new invention or discovery came from looking for god? Usually god stays out of the science lab

Isaac Newton was "religious" his entire life. He attended Trinity College, a religious university, on the letter of his uncle who was a reverend. Among his early writings was his listing of sins before age 19. Maybe "Neal Debra" was too stupid to read up on Newton? :dunno:

In any event, the world has always had people like you. Never has there been more than about 5% nihilists among the general population, the rest of us are spiritually connected. Now you can fool yourself into thinking that you're making a difference with your rants and protests but nothing you have ever said has changed my mind one iota and I bet I speak for the overwhelming majority of people here and on the planet. You are totally inconsequential.
Here’s my problem with religion. A kid asks about the Big Bang and you tell them god did it right? You are a liar. You should tell them that’s just one theory. Never mind it’s not an actual theory. Point is what you think doesn’t match reality. It’s not a fact.

Another option to god is endless universes separated by dark matter. And no I don’t believe another universe would have a me in it. The odds of that are zero like a fingerprint or snowflake. No two universes are the same. You are only you here and now.

Anyways yes I’m just guessing same as you. I never been to another universe and you never met god
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. Ten dimensions are used to describe string theory, eleven dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory, and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.

^^^ Does not refute anything I said. But thanks anyway.
You still have not proven how all motion stopped so time did not exist until it was created by a non-physical spirit.

Motion cannot exist without time and space, dimwit.
 
Of course the universes are confined to science. They are born live and die. The cosmos are alive you can clearly see. You are a part of it.

Anyways this is something we need to stop telling our children this lie. I just realized this is how we are holding the masses back. Instead of telling a young child the scientific truth we lie about a creator and we point to holy books as evidence. Your denial of evolution and global warming are evidence

You know, I was thinking about this the other day. Back when Isaac Newton was writing Principia and formulating the Laws of Motion.... people of that time were sharing the story of Jesus Christ, the baby in the manger, the Great Flood, Moses parting the Red Sea and the Ten Commandments..... all of that was being discussed among the people of the time. In fact, Newton himself spent the later part of his life writing what would eventually become the basis for modern Protestant Doctrine. He acknowledged a "mercurial spirit" coursing through our universe which could not be explained by physics which he largely created.

When Constantine ruled over Rome, he was the first emperor to convert to Christianity. He was instrumental in the Edict of Milan which delivered religious tolerance for Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. This particular religious belief was very important to the people of that time, just as it is today.

But let's go back WAY further... let's go back 70,000 years to Lake Mungo. This is where we've found the remains of some of the oldest human civilization. They actually buried the dead with ceremonial rituals using red ocher. This means, even way back then, humans believed in spiritual nature.... something greater beyond the physical.

Now, all of a sudden... just in your lifetime, you have some silly obscure notion that something you have to say is going to simply erase all those years of human thought? That, somehow, mankind is simply going to abandon thinking about the spirit or spiritual things because... you're "smarter" than anyone ever to have roamed the Earth? Because you've adopted a faith-based belief in theories you cannot prove... and that's the whole basis on which you think humanity is to abandon it's age old beliefs. That's just incredible to me that you would even contemplate such a thing.
Well that’s what’s happening anywhere that’s not fundamentally religious. People are evolving to not be spiritual religious nuts. Even you only argue for a vague concept of god. Generic. You are proof religion is going away.

Imagine when more people like you stop telling the religious lies. The awakening has begun.

By the way the day newton started getting religious was the day he stopped coming up with new ideas. Neal Debra’s Tyson explained that yes he did get religious and he proved nothing after that. What a waste. What great new invention or discovery came from looking for god? Usually god stays out of the science lab

Isaac Newton was "religious" his entire life. He attended Trinity College, a religious university, on the letter of his uncle who was a reverend. Among his early writings was his listing of sins before age 19. Maybe "Neal Debra" was too stupid to read up on Newton? :dunno:

In any event, the world has always had people like you. Never has there been more than about 5% nihilists among the general population, the rest of us are spiritually connected. Now you can fool yourself into thinking that you're making a difference with your rants and protests but nothing you have ever said has changed my mind one iota and I bet I speak for the overwhelming majority of people here and on the planet. You are totally inconsequential.
Here’s my problem with religion. A kid asks about the Big Bang and you tell them god did it right? You are a liar. You should tell them that’s just one theory. Never mind it’s not an actual theory. Point is what you think doesn’t match reality. It’s not a fact.

Another option to god is endless universes separated by dark matter. And no I don’t believe another universe would have a me in it. The odds of that are zero like a fingerprint or snowflake. No two universes are the same. You are only you here and now.

Anyways yes I’m just guessing same as you. I never been to another universe and you never met god

I don't even know if the Big Bang happened, that's just a theory. And one that is actually an enigma to physics because physics can't really explain why it happened or what caused it to happen. I also don't know if other universes exist but if they do we shouldn't call them "universes" because UNI means ONE. The problem with that theory is, it can never be proved. So it's really no different than a theory we were created by a flying spaghetti monster. Same difference... two unprovable theories.

Oh... and I talk to God every day.
 
And of course everyone is spiritual. How many of us are lied to/brainwashed at a young age to believe God did it? To believe god walked on water and sent his son and all those lies? Of course most people are still brainwashed.

How many people are lied to and told there is no such thing as God and human spirituality is just a figment of imagination? :dunno:
 
Half the people in church are faking it. Our numbers are as high as 30% and growing.

Nope... they've done extensive studies about every 5-10 years to determine how many Nihilists there are worldwide. Since they've been tracking it the number has remained about 5% of the population. The remaining 95% have some belief in something... even if they claim to be Atheists.
 
Space/time is ONE of the FOUR dimensions. Damn you are an idiot, thank God you are too stupid to know it!!!

March 01, 2012
RUSH: To put it bluntly, dumb people are too dumb to know it." It's a blessing! You know, the worst thing would be to be dumb and to know it -- and there's evidence all over that the dumb do not know they're dumb.

No... TIME is one of the four dimensions. Space has THREE dimensions.
You know... 3D?
:rofl: You should avoid commenting about dumb people.
In classical mechanics, space and time are different categories and refer to absolute space and time. That conception of the world is a four-dimensional space but not the one that was found necessary to describe electromagnetism. The four dimensions of spacetime consist of events that are not absolutely defined spatially and temporally, but rather are known relative to the motion of an observer. Minkowski space first approximates the universe without gravity; the pseudo-Riemannian manifolds of general relativity describe spacetime with matter and gravity. Ten dimensions are used to describe string theory, eleven dimensions can describe supergravity and M-theory, and the state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space.

^^^ Does not refute anything I said. But thanks anyway.
You still have not proven how all motion stopped so time did not exist until it was created by a non-physical spirit.

Motion cannot exist without time and space, dimwit.
Ass backwards, as usual.
Again, for time to not have existed, as you moronically claim, there had to be no motion, violating the TLoT.
 
Half the people in church are faking it. Our numbers are as high as 30% and growing.

Nope... they've done extensive studies about every 5-10 years to determine how many Nihilists there are worldwide. Since they've been tracking it the number has remained about 5% of the population. The remaining 95% have some belief in something... even if they claim to be Atheists.
Very few Atheists are Nihilists like YOU!
 

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