All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[Shusha]

Only Zionist shills will argue with source documents.

Lol. Ironic coming from the guy who can't seem to read the Mandate for Palestine.

 

[Shusha]

Everything about the completion of the "Step Preparatory to Independent" and the subsequent creation of the Jewish State of Israel was entirely legal.

Only if Resolution 181 was valid. It was not.

Wrong.

Only if the Mandate for Palestine was legal. And it was.

 

[Billo_Really]

Try to read SLOWLY! It was a 1) Egypt closing INTERNATIONAL WATERS that Israel has rights to,

Nations don't have rights, people do.

2)Egyptian Troops on Israel’s border with Nasser bragging to the International Community Israel will be destroyed and the U.N. PEACEKEEPERS leaving. Tell us why. No answer?

I just posted a statement from one of the Israeli generals at that time saying they were not worried about Egyptian troops massing at their border.

Israel doesn't give a shit about UN peacekeepers, so why do you keep bringing them up?

 

[Billo_Really]

The Palestinians could have had their “ state” a long time ago

That's another bullshit lie. Every time they comply with Israeli demands, you fuckers move the goal posts.

 

[Billo_Really]

Nice try. If this were before 67 the Pro Pal objections wouldn’t be any different.

Yeah, lets waste time on things that have nothing to do with reality?

 

[Billo_Really]

Which is what the videos I posted tell.

Do not worry, Billo only takes allegations from conspiracy theory sites where they allege that some in the Israeli Military told "the truth" about wanting to attack Egypt and all other Arab countries and "extend its territory".

Which is the case with Orient XXI, where the General Peled "quote" comes from. Click on it and see for yourself. Do the research about it.

Now, did any Israeli military member actually say that?
Was an actual saying by any Israeli taken out of context and printed on the site?

Always click on their reference and try to find out what the site is all about. From what I saw, it is very pro those who are anti Israel.
The anti Israel people are always the victims of Israel.

That is the company Billo likes to keep.

Ad hominems are not valid rebuttals.

 

[USAF 2023]

The Palestinians could have had their “ state” a long time ago

That's another bullshit lie. Every time they comply with Israeli demands, you fuckers move the goal posts.

Please tell us what “ demands” they complied with.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

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And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization. Those are well over a century ago and have no connection at all to the post-1967 Six Day War outcomes.

All Israeli settlers are necessary, integral, and active members of Israel's settler-colonial project.

Now I don't believe that settler colonialism, per se, is illegal. However, virtually every action required to achieve such a project is illegal.

Can you name anything about Israel that is actually legal?

I await your response.

(COMMENT)

Everything about the completion of the "Step Preparatory to Independent" and the subsequent creation of the Jewish State of Israel was entirely legal. It was done with the explicit approval of the UN and tacit approval of the Security Council. The Arab League, violating Article 2(4) ignited the conflict that still rages today in a slightly different form.

As you well know, the West Bank into three administrative divisions. We generally say or describe these areas as:

• Area A (full civil and security control by the Palestinian Authority)
• Area B (Palestinian civil control and joint Israeli-Palestinian security control)
• Area C (full Israeli civil and security control)​

The settlements are all in Area C (full Israeli civil and security control). By agreement with the Arab Palestinian Leadership (AKA: The Palestinian Authority) and under the guidance Area "C" full Israeli civil and security control, any settlements established by Israel is "legal."

IF: the Arab Palestinian Leadership (AKA: The Palestinian Authority) had a:

• The political problem with the settlements,
• Wish to dispute the authority of the settlements,
• Want to challenge the competency of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated,

THEN: The complainant must use either of the recognized platforms.

• Oslo II Accord - Declaration of Principles On Interim Self-Government Arrangements (September 13, 1993)

※ Artilce V(3) (TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS)

It is understood that these negotiations shall cover remaining issues, including: Jerusalem, refugees, settlements, security arrangements, borders, relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and other issues of common interest.

※ Article XV (RESOLUTION OF DISPUTES)

Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Declaration of Principles. or any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, shall be resolved by negotiations through the Joint Liaison Committee to be established pursuant to Article X above.​

• These methods are 100% consistent with the existing and internationally accept practice:

※ Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

※ All States shall pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty on general and complete disarmament under effective international control and strive to adopt appropriate measures to reduce international tensions and strengthen confidence among States.

States shall accordingly seek early and just settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice. In seeking such a settlement the parties shall agree upon such peaceful means as may be appropriate to the circumstances and nature of the dispute.

(ARAB PALESTINIAN OBSTRUCTION TO PEACE)

The fact that the Arab Palestinian Leadership has not fulfilled in good faith of the obligations assumed by States, in accordance with the Charter. Neither policy nor violence should be a driver towards peace. The default political position is "peace." Peace should be the natural static condition for any modern state to gravitate towards. In the case of the Arab Palestinians, → the default political stance is something other than peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization.

Only Zionist shills will argue with source documents.

You don't understand the argument.
In which document does it mention that Palestine is an Arab state?

None of them."Arab" is irrelevant.

 

[Billo_Really]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

We all seem to agree on the first part. But the second part is tricky.

The Straits were INTERNATIONAL Waters and Egypt had no right to block it.

I agree.

In addition Egypt Military started to Mass at the Israeli Border and the U.N. Peacekeepers left. That is what started the War. Please tell us why those events occurred

Massing troops is not the same thing as an invasion. Israel invaded; Egypt did not. And besides, Egypt massing troops did not threaten Israels military.

"To claim that the Egyptian troops massed at the border could in any way threaten the existence of Israel is not only an insult to the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this type of situation, but above all an insult to the Israeli army.” ”All that talk about the huge danger we were in (. . .) was never taken into account when we were doing our calculations before the fighting began.” - General Matti Peled, Chief Logistics Officer ​

(COMMENT)

You do not have to wait for the Enemy to hit you. You are allowed to block the punch.

The wording of Article 2(4) is clear on that point. It says:

Article 2 UN CHARTER
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.

If you read it, "the threat --- of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the State of Israel.

The credible threat is that they Egyptians ordered the UN PeaceKeepers out of the away and nearly a thousand tanks and a like number of artillery pieces, right up on the border. This was no training exercise. This was close to 100,000 men and equipment. → It was a credible THREAT.

Most Respectfully,
R

Article 51 of the UN Charter is more specific by stating there is only 2 legal ways a country can attack another country and Israel didn't satisfy either one.

 

[USAF 2023]

Nice try. If this were before 67 the Pro Pal objections wouldn’t be any different.

Yeah, lets waste time on things that have nothing to do with reality?

That is really quite funny! There were no Wars between 1948 and 1967?? Israel’s right to exist was accepted??
Notice you have NOTHING to say about Egypt blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters or the U.N. “ peacekeepers “. Leaving.

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

We all seem to agree on the first part. But the second part is tricky.

The Straits were INTERNATIONAL Waters and Egypt had no right to block it.

I agree.

In addition Egypt Military started to Mass at the Israeli Border and the U.N. Peacekeepers left. That is what started the War. Please tell us why those events occurred

Massing troops is not the same thing as an invasion. Israel invaded; Egypt did not. And besides, Egypt massing troops did not threaten Israels military.

"To claim that the Egyptian troops massed at the border could in any way threaten the existence of Israel is not only an insult to the intelligence of any person capable of analysing this type of situation, but above all an insult to the Israeli army.” ”All that talk about the huge danger we were in (. . .) was never taken into account when we were doing our calculations before the fighting began.” - General Matti Peled, Chief Logistics Officer ​

(COMMENT)

You do not have to wait for the Enemy to hit you. You are allowed to block the punch.

The wording of Article 2(4) is clear on that point. It says:

Article 2 UN CHARTER
The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.

If you read it, "the threat --- of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the State of Israel.

The credible threat is that they Egyptians ordered the UN PeaceKeepers out of the away and nearly a thousand tanks and a like number of artillery pieces, right up on the border. This was no training exercise. This was close to 100,000 men and equipment. → It was a credible THREAT.

Most Respectfully,
R

Article 51 of the UN Charter is more specific by stating there is only 2 legal ways a country can attack another country and Israel didn't satisfy either one.

Egypt initiated War by deliberately blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters. Tell us please why this was done and why the U.N. peacekeepers deliberately left

 

[Billo_Really]

He posted a link. It is in red. It is for a conspiracy theory site called OrientXII

What you feel towards a particular website doesn't mean shit!

 

[Billo_Really]

Arab Threats Against Israel

It was more then just a threat; It was a promise. One more example of How the Arabs INITIATED the 67 War,

Promises are not an act of war.

 

[Billo_Really]

He posted a link? Know what; So did I ! See above

What grade are you in?

 

[USAF 2023]

Arab Threats Against Israel

It was more then just a threat; It was a promise. One more example of How the Arabs INITIATED the 67 War,

Promises are not an act of war.

Not my fault you have a problem with Reading Comprehension.
1) Deliberately blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters
2) The U.N. deliberately leaving the area
Actions speak louder then words? You have them

 

[Billo_Really]

Please tell us what “ demands” they complied with.

Oslo Accords; any one of a number of the ceasefires; fuck, they can't even protest peacefully without you fuckers gunning them down in the streets.

 

[USAF 2023]

He posted a link? Know what; So did I ! See above

What grade are you in?

Somebody stated you posted a link that indicated Israel wanted to take over Arab Territory . I thought that was actually hilarious

 

[Billo_Really]

That is really quite funny! There were no Wars between 1948 and 1967?? Israel’s right to exist was accepted??
Notice you have NOTHING to say about Egypt blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters or the U.N. “ peacekeepers “. Leaving.

Do you actually read my posts? Because I already agreed with you on the Straits and already commented on the UN peacekeepers. I also stated Israel doesn't have any rights. No nations do.

But your post does prove that it doesn't matter what anyone says, you're just going to make up some bullshit and act like its true.

 

[USAF 2023]

Please tell us what “ demands” they complied with.

Oslo Accords; any one of a number of the ceasefires; fuck, they can't even protest peacefully without you fuckers gunning them down in the streets.

Another lie

 

[Billo_Really]

Egypt initiated War by deliberately blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters. Tell us please why this was done and why the U.N. peacekeepers deliberately left

No. You fucking comment on what I said!