Allen West: Tired of Obama’s ‘Marxist Rhetoric’

[Zona]

U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - CNN

Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry's top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN.
But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Why does W J resort to playground, name-calling?

I only name call to the moron's who can't back up their claims, or continue to shill when they know they are full of shit.

Nor do I play nice with honor stealing poseurs like the resident poseur we are now seeing, who is proving that he doesn't know what anybody who actually served would damn sure know about article 15 and court martials.

 

[Zona]

Of course your side doesn't want patriots, I understand. You can have your anti-American apologist we'll keep our pro-American patriots

He is a patriot? He was forced to retire. Do you understand what happened with this horrible excuse for an officer?

HE WAS FORCED TO RETIRE OR FACE A COURTS MARTIAL. This is a fact and you call him a patriot?

Damn.

(or are you kidding? If so, good one.)

Soooooo, put up those facts!

Come on man, you are stating it as fact, PROVE IT!

'Cause i'm chomping at the bit to shove it up your lying ass!

Here's the facts, liar....And if you ACTUALLY served, which I now doubt more than ever, you would know that once it was knocked down to article 15, court martial was taken of the table...He was fined $5000, and that was end of it.....He chose to retire. Never was he forced, you poseur piece o' shit!

God I hate fuckin' poseurs!

He was given the choice of courts martial or a fine and FORCED retirement. This makes him a hero? Fucking poseurs. And since the link was given to you, find me a link that proves I am wrong. Fucking poseur.

Thanks dot com...I was getting there.

 

[Greenbeard]

I only name call to the moron's who can't back up their claims, or continue to shill when they know they are full of shit.

Were you "shilling" for Paul Ryan when you said he isn't proposing to lower taxes on high earners?

 

[Zona]

U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - CNN

Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry's top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN.
But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

Why does W J resort to playground, name-calling?

I only name call to the moron's who can't back up their claims, or continue to shill when they know they are full of shit.

Nor do I play nice with honor stealing poseurs like the resident poseur we are now seeing, who is proving that he doesn't know what anybody who actually served would damn sure know about article 15 and court martials.

Are you mentally challenged?

Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry's top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN.
But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.


Admit you are wrong, and maybe, just maybe we can take you seriously later. Maybe.

 

[Wicked Jester]

U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - CNN

Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry's top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN.
But while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

Doesn't prove shit, poseur, other than the fact that he was never brought up for court martial, and that it was dropped to Article 15.

Meaning, he didn't face court martial if he didn't resign. He was never forced to resign...He was slapped with a 5000 fine....That is all......Once it was dropped to Article 15, court martial was never an option, nor was forced retirement.

Christ man, Dot Com helped expose your lying ass.....Too fuckin' funny!

 

[Dot Com]

He was prolly "encouraged" ;-) to resign his commission if he accepted the lighter Article 15 punishment.

 

[Zona]

Iraq interrogation incidentWhile serving in Taji, Iraq, West received information from an intelligence specialist about a reported plot to ambush him and his men.[11] The alleged plot reportedly involved Yahya Jhodri Hamoodi, a civilian Iraqi police officer.[11] At first, West thought the reports were a joke...until a week later when several of his officers were ambushed when he was supposed to be traveling with them. At that point, Colonel West began taking the risk of a planned assassination attempt seriously. [11] West, who was not responsible for conducting interrogations in Iraq and had never conducted or witnessed one, had his men detain Hamoodi.[11] In the process of detaining Mr. Hamoodi, soldiers testified that Mr. Hamoodi appeared to go for his weapon and needed to be subdued.[11] Hamoodi was beaten by four of his soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion on the head and body.[12] West then fired his pistol near Hamoodi's head.[11] Hamoodi then provided West with names and information, what Hamoodi later described as "meaningless information induced by fear and pain."[11] At least one suspect was arrested as a result, but no plans for attacks or weapons were found.[11] West said "At the time I had to base my decision on the intelligence I received. It's possible that I was wrong about Mr. Hamoodi."[11]

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, "I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers."[citation needed] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. Asked if he would have act differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, "If it's about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I'd go through hell with a gasoline can."[13] After Colonel West was forced to leave, an interpreter said that without his presence the region he previously oversaw became more dangerous and chaotic.[11]

He is a disgrace.

Allen West (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jroc]

He was prolly "encouraged" ;-) to resign his commission if he accepted the lighter Article 15 punishment.

Humm...Yeah prolly...

 

[Political Junky]

This disgraced army officer is your choice? Damn, I thought steele was bad but this guy HAD to retire or face a courts martial. The united states army doesnt want him but you do?

Wow. I thank god we dont have anyone as close to this guy or the donald on our side.

Your side are a bunch of cartoons.

Of course your side doesn't want patriots, I understand. You can have your anti-American apologist we'll keep our pro-American patriots

He is a patriot? He was forced to retire. Do you understand what happened with this horrible excuse for an officer?

HE WAS FORCED TO RETIRE OR FACE A COURTS MARTIAL. This is a fact and you call him a patriot?

Damn.

(or are you kidding? If so, good one.)

Somehow the cons don't want to talk about that.

 

[Zona]

U.S. officer fined for harsh interrogation tactics - CNN

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

Doesn't prove shit, poseur, other than the fact that he was never brought up for court martial, and that it was dropped to Article 15.

Meaning, he didn't face court martial if he didn't resign. He was never forced to resign...He was slapped with a 5000 fine....That is all......Once it was dropped to Article 15, court martial was never an option, nor was forced retirement.

Christ man, Dot Com helped expose your lying ass.....Too fuckin' funny!

Wat he did was wrong. Hell he even admitted what he did was wrong..and he was forced to retire and is YOUR guy.

Perfect. Perfect. We all thank god he is on your side. He is a disgrace. He reitired on his own? Really?

HE IS A DISGRACE and admitted he was wrong and the Army agree'd. He was wrong. He is a damn criminal in my eyes and should not have been allowed to retire with full benifits but lets thank god the army made him get out at the twenty year mark. It could have been worse, and he stayed in longer.

 

[Jroc]

He is a disgrace.

Allen West (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia?..Did you enter that yourself? impressive.That along with your huffington post link is all we need... thanks

 

[Dot Com]

Of course your side doesn't want patriots, I understand. You can have your anti-American apologist we'll keep our pro-American patriots

He is a patriot? He was forced to retire. Do you understand what happened with this horrible excuse for an officer?

HE WAS FORCED TO RETIRE OR FACE A COURTS MARTIAL. This is a fact and you call him a patriot?

Damn.

(or are you kidding? If so, good one.)

Somehow the cons don't want to talk about that.

Tea party voters people don't want to be bothered w/ facts.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

Doesn't prove shit, poseur, other than the fact that he was never brought up for court martial, and that it was dropped to Article 15.

Meaning, he didn't face court martial if he didn't resign. He was never forced to resign...He was slapped with a 5000 fine....That is all......Once it was dropped to Article 15, court martial was never an option, nor was forced retirement.

Christ man, Dot Com helped expose your lying ass.....Too fuckin' funny!

Wat he did was wrong. Hell he even admitted what he did was wrong..and he was forced to retire and is YOUR guy.

Perfect. Perfect. We all thank god he is on your side. He is a disgrace. He reitired on his own? Really?

HE IS A DISGRACE and admitted he was wrong and the Army agree'd. He was wrong. He is a damn criminal in my eyes and should not have been allowed to retire with full benifits but lets thank god the army made him get out at the twenty year mark. It could have been worse, and he stayed in longer.

NO!.......You're a disgrace by sitting up here and lying about what West's case was really all about............He was not forced to retire. He did not face court martial had he decided not to retire....The decision to retire was his, and his alone.......You can call him a disgrace until the cows come home.......I call you a disgrace for abjectly lying, and distorting the truth about a man who unlike you, isn't a god damn poseur piece o' shit!

Still waiting for your alleged proof of Con Hog's service BTW.

 

[Dot Com]

He was prolly offered the Article 15 on the condition that he disappear/retire

 

[Wicked Jester]

He is a disgrace.

Allen West (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia?..Did you enter that yourself? impressive.That along with your huffington post link is all we need... thanks

These fools are laughable.

Anybody who served fully knows that once a charge is knocked down to article 15, court martial is no longer an option.......It then becomes an article 15 issue. Court martial has no bearing.

LMAO!

 

[Jroc]

He is a patriot? He was forced to retire. Do you understand what happened with this horrible excuse for an officer?

HE WAS FORCED TO RETIRE OR FACE A COURTS MARTIAL. This is a fact and you call him a patriot?

Damn.

(or are you kidding? If so, good one.)

Somehow the cons don't want to talk about that.

Tea party voters people don't want to be bothered w/ facts.

Wow!!.. Jewish Tea Partiers in Florida..That's crazy!!...Ok.. I'll give you 100 Obamas.. I'll take one Allen West on my side.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cijuUceT_ow]YouTube - Allen West : "A Man Must Stand for Something or He Will Fall For Anything!"[/ame]

 

[Wicked Jester]

He was prolly offered the Article 15 on the condition that he disappear/retire

It doesn't work that way.

 

[Ernie S.]

Thanks..I was just getting there, but thanks.

Jester, Jroc, comments. Poseur indeed.

Doesn't prove shit, poseur, other than the fact that he was never brought up for court martial, and that it was dropped to Article 15.

Meaning, he didn't face court martial if he didn't resign. He was never forced to resign...He was slapped with a 5000 fine....That is all......Once it was dropped to Article 15, court martial was never an option, nor was forced retirement.

Christ man, Dot Com helped expose your lying ass.....Too fuckin' funny!

Wat he did was wrong. Hell he even admitted what he did was wrong..and he was forced to retire and is YOUR guy.

Perfect. Perfect. We all thank god he is on your side. He is a disgrace. He reitired on his own? Really?

HE IS A DISGRACE and admitted he was wrong and the Army agree'd. He was wrong. He is a damn criminal in my eyes and should not have been allowed to retire with full benifits but lets thank god the army made him get out at the twenty year mark. It could have been worse, and he stayed in longer.

He was wrong, I guess, but he got the results he wanted and probably saved the lives of his troops. I respect a man who will do what's needed in a hairy situation.
obama, placed in the same situation wouldn't have the balls to do what it takes. He would have played by the unrealistic "rules" and thus sacrificed his men, then blame their deaths on Belgian cartoonists.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Doesn't prove shit, poseur, other than the fact that he was never brought up for court martial, and that it was dropped to Article 15.

Meaning, he didn't face court martial if he didn't resign. He was never forced to resign...He was slapped with a 5000 fine....That is all......Once it was dropped to Article 15, court martial was never an option, nor was forced retirement.

Christ man, Dot Com helped expose your lying ass.....Too fuckin' funny!

Wat he did was wrong. Hell he even admitted what he did was wrong..and he was forced to retire and is YOUR guy.

Perfect. Perfect. We all thank god he is on your side. He is a disgrace. He reitired on his own? Really?

HE IS A DISGRACE and admitted he was wrong and the Army agree'd. He was wrong. He is a damn criminal in my eyes and should not have been allowed to retire with full benifits but lets thank god the army made him get out at the twenty year mark. It could have been worse, and he stayed in longer.

He was wrong, I guess, but he got the results he wanted and probably saved the lives of his troops. I respect a man who will do what's needed in a hairy situation.
obama, placed in the same situation wouldn't have the balls to do what it takes. He would have played by the unrealistic "rules" and thus sacrificed his men, then blame their deaths on Belgian cartoonists.

Not to mention the fact that his Iraqi interpreter said after West left, the region turned into a violence plagued hell hole.....Not that Zona or these clowns would give a shit about innocent Iraqi's being slaughtered by extremist scum.