Amber Guyger Guilty of Murder

[PoliticalChic]

Just as I predicted she would be:

Amber Guyger found guilty of murder at trial in fatal shooting of neighbor Botham Jean

I, as well, couldn't see any way not to convict.

I would say you are a good person looking at the whole picture. Just because they are cops.
We need to be harder on cops when they shoot and kill. Over 85% of cop kills are murder events!
Most are wanting the Trophy for a kill. To Stud in the locker room.

Statistics certainly don't support your nonsense.


"In three-quarters of the fatal shootings, police were under attack or defending someone who was.
The officers were often lauded as heroes.

The Post found that 28 percent of those who died were shooting at officers or someone else. Sixteen percent were attacking with other weapons or physical force, and 31 percent were pointing a gun.

“You have to make life-or-death decisions,” said Mary Jane Norman, who credits Indianapolis police with saving her life in February when they shot and killed her mentally ill son, Kent, as he held a butcher knife to her throat. “A moment’s pause could cause the death of an innocent victim or themselves.”


Mental illness played a role in one quarter of incidents.
Many of the deaths of people in the throes of a mental or emotional crisis may be preventable, police and mental-health experts said.

They point to a need for better police training. The Post analysis revealed that more than half of these killings involved police agencies that had not provided officers with state-of-the-art training to de-escalate such encounters.

“This a national crisis,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a Washington-based think tank. “We have to get American police to rethink how they handle encounters with the mentally ill.”



One quarter of fatal shootings involved a fleeing suspect.
Police chiefs and training experts said more-restrictive rules on when to give chase could reduce these deaths.

For example, many departments discourage officers from pursuing a suspect alone on foot, particularly in dark or dimly lit areas, unless the person presents an immediate threat. Avoiding unnecessary pursuits might also avoid injecting adrenaline and anger into the encounter, police experts said.

Police “are used to giving commands and people obeying,” said Philip M. Stinson, a professor at Bowling Green State University. “They don’t like it when people don’t listen to them, and things can quickly become violent when people don’t follow their orders.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-year-end/

Your post points out that only 28% were shooting a gun. Mean still 72% (really nationwide 85% unarmed murders) were not shooting and were killed..Murder by cops.

So you're a government school grad, huh?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just as I predicted she would be:

Amber Guyger found guilty of murder at trial in fatal shooting of neighbor Botham Jean

GoodT!!

I hope cops across the nation are paying attention...their days of killing unarmed black people for sport, are OVER!

Unless of course, they want to rot in jail for doing so.

Justice is served.

There never was such a time....it exists only in your fevered imagination.


I don't believe there is a cure for your problem....take the honorable way out.

 

[emilynghiem]

Also found out:
the reason she got the murder conviction - when asked about applying her training to shoot,
she did answer that she shot in the areas that would kill (I think the head and chest area)
so they got her to admit on the stand that she shot to kill, and that's how they got murder out of what she said.

This is still taken out of the context that she THOUGHT she was in her own apt.
so it wasn't the same as KNOWING she was in someone else's apt and shooting to kill.

That's a gray area and not the same context, but given the pressure to answer for this injustice
in a way commensurate with the suffering caused, that's the best they could do. She might win on appeal
if they ask for reckless homicide, but would have to answer to the need for meaningful correction
or restitution that is proportional to the grievances caused instead of trying to use "murder" charges to compensate.
setting up a community outreach program to help prevent these problems
might compensate better for the pain and prejudice stirred by this case, and not require a murder charge to feel vindicated.

There is some other factor here, so that could addressed in more constructive ways
instead of turning a reckless homicide into murder to try to make a statement that way.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Amber's goin' to the slammer.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

My guess is for 14 years.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What was the motive?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Two more victims of the crazy US gun culture.

 

[emilynghiem]

What was the motive?

She shot at a man she thought was an intruder in her apt.
The jury/court didn't believe she could have thought she was in her apt.

But the level of distraction that would have taken
is consistent with the fact she was on the phone planning to meet with a
fellow officer she was having an affair with although he is married and
that whole affair would get them in big trouble as it was.

That wasn't seen as justifying or explaining why she
would mistakenly shoot someone.

The mistaken identity was accidental.

The failing to render aid but to disregard the man's condition afterwards
was clearly reckless.

@AsogtheDefiler the part that was considered intent to murder
was AFTER she thought the man was an intruder in her apt
THEN she shot to kill. She stated clearly she never intended
or wanted to kill an innocent man. She really thought he was
illegally in her apt when she "shot to kill" him. But since nobody
could accept the fact she made such a mistake in the first place,
the only part that was considered was that she "shot with intent to kill."

So that part taken out of context constitutes murder by definition.

The rest of the context was disputed, and I think it makes a difference,
but in the minds of those who don't care what made her think what,
it's still her intending to shoot to kill that man when he was in "his own apt."

The intent was not fully there, but the law isn't written to define
and distinguish situations like this. If she got off with anything less than murder,
it's like saying "anyone could claim not to know which apt they are in"
and accidentally shoot to kill and get away with it.

All they needed to define this as murder was she "intended to kill" when she fired the shots.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

They are going to need a Geiger counter after the prisoners nuke Guyger.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

What was the motive?

She shot at a man she thought was an intruder in her apt.
The jury/court didn't believe she could have thought she was in her apt.

But the level of distraction that would have taken
is consistent with the fact she was on the phone planning to meet with a
fellow officer she was having an affair with although he is married and
that whole affair would get them in big trouble as it was.

That wasn't seen as justifying or explaining why she
would mistakenly shoot someone.

The mistaken identity was accidental.

The failing to render aid but to disregard the man's condition afterwards
was clearly reckless.

@AsogtheDefiler the part that was considered intent to murder
was AFTER she thought the man was an intruder in her apt
THEN she shot to kill. She stated clearly she never intended
or wanted to kill an innocent man. She really thought he was
illegally in her apt when she "shot to kill" him. But since nobody
could accept the fact she made such a mistake in the first place,
the only part that was considered was that she "shot with intent to kill."

So that part taken out of context constitutes murder by definition.

The rest of the context was disputed, and I think it makes a difference,
but in the minds of those who don't care what made her think what,
it's still her intending to shoot to kill that man when he was in "his own apt."

The intent was not fully there, but the law isn't written to define
and distinguish situations like this. If she got off with anything less than murder,
it's like saying "anyone could claim not to know which apt they are in"
and accidentally shoot to kill and get away with it.

All they needed to define this as murder was she "intended to kill" when she fired the shots.

Why could it not be manslaughter. Like reckless driving and hitting someone? Why murder?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Two more victims of the crazy US gun culture.

She was a cop. She would have had access to a gun. Why do you always troll? Go have your tea and crumpets.

 

[emilynghiem]

They are going to need a Geiger counter after the prisoners nuke Guyger.

Before she is assigned to a unit, I'd volunteer to set up a special unit and community service program for her and/or Rivera if he also loses his job (and even reach out to George Zimmerman if he'd like to create a job for himself working as security for churches in the last historic Black District of its kind in the nation that needs help to develop its campus plans for restoring the community www.campusplan.org). If Guyger and others want to come work there while serving out their sentences, it would be safer than risking them becoming targets in the prison system and culture. With Amber Guyger and Botham Jean, since public demand for justice over racial perception issues were part of the reason the charges were bumped up to murder instead of prosecuting as reckless homicide, the idea of helping to remedy political racist destruction of a Black historic Civil Rights landmark might offer a better solution to the public outcry over this and other cases. www.freedmenstown.com

 

[MarcATL]

Railroaded.

Scapegoat for hands up don't shoot.

Yes and No.
She was prevented from getting off easy due to the heightened publicity surrounding this case of a death caused by a race based reaction to Botham as a BLACK male figure.

But instead of "reckless homicide" which seems to be more accurate, this was pushed as a "Murder" when there was no such intent proven.

"Reckless homicide is a crime in which the perpetrator was aware that their act (or failure to act when there is a legal duty to act) creates significant risk of death or grievous bodily harm in the victim, but ignores the risk and continues to act (or fail to act), and a human death results."

Guyger was sex-texting plans to hookup illicitly with a married police partner, which might explain her distraction and shows she acted with reckless disregard for saving Botham after the shooting.

She had no intent of killing Botham, but made a deadly mistake because she was doing the wrong thing with a fellow officer knowing this would cost them both their jobs, careers and reputations.

That's not intent to kill Botham, but acting with reckless disregard for him and his life while scrambling to deal with her problems she got into herself. That's not murder, but in order to punish her for her culpability, it was raised to that level of charges instead of going with reckless homicide which would still not appease the family and public aggrieved over this injustice. There should have been counseling to help the family and public to understand why this is reckless homicide and not murder. So they wouldn't need murder charges to feel that the wrong was acknowledged and punished. It was wrong and it cost a man his life, but by reckless homicide because she had no intent.

Uhm, she stated in court the other day, when asked, that she intended to kill him.

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[Tommy Tainant]

Two more victims of the crazy US gun culture.

She was a cop. She would have had access to a gun. Why do you always troll? Go have your tea and crumpets.

Like I said she is a victim of the gun culture.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Two more victims of the crazy US gun culture.

She was a cop. She would have had access to a gun. Why do you always troll? Go have your tea and crumpets.

Like I said she is a victim of the gun culture.

How so? Please explain.

 

[Meathead]

Ex-Cop Found Guilty of Murder After Shooting unarmed Botham Jean in His Own Apartment
The former Dallas cop who fatally shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment has been convicted of murder.

The jury in Amber Guyger's trial delivered their verdict Tuesday morning after beginning their deliberations Monday. Cheers erupted in the hallways of the courthouse as the verdict was announced.

The jury will reconvene to decide her punishment. She could face life in prison.

Guyger had fatally shot Botham Jean on Sept. 6, 2018 after coming home from work and walking into his apartment that she said she mistook for her own.

Her lawyers argued that she simply made a mistake when she arrived at her apartment building after a 13-hour shift. They said a tired Guyger thought she was walking into her own apartment and mistook Jean for an intruder in her home. Therefore, they said, she shot him in self-defense.

Guyger wept on the witness stand as she testified at her trial, saying she feels like "a piece of crap" and repeating “I’m sorry."Ex-Cop Found Guilty of Murder After Shooting Botham Jean in His Own Apartment


Guess some people are not giving COPS a pass these days. As COPS are killing Black for mostly Trophy points.

She'll do 5 years, maybe 6 max.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Ex-Cop Found Guilty of Murder After Shooting unarmed Botham Jean in His Own Apartment
The former Dallas cop who fatally shot an unarmed black man in his own apartment has been convicted of murder.

The jury in Amber Guyger's trial delivered their verdict Tuesday morning after beginning their deliberations Monday. Cheers erupted in the hallways of the courthouse as the verdict was announced.

The jury will reconvene to decide her punishment. She could face life in prison.

Guyger had fatally shot Botham Jean on Sept. 6, 2018 after coming home from work and walking into his apartment that she said she mistook for her own.

Her lawyers argued that she simply made a mistake when she arrived at her apartment building after a 13-hour shift. They said a tired Guyger thought she was walking into her own apartment and mistook Jean for an intruder in her home. Therefore, they said, she shot him in self-defense.

Guyger wept on the witness stand as she testified at her trial, saying she feels like "a piece of crap" and repeating “I’m sorry."Ex-Cop Found Guilty of Murder After Shooting Botham Jean in His Own Apartment


Guess some people are not giving COPS a pass these days. As COPS are killing Black for mostly Trophy points.

She'll do 5 years, maybe 6 max.

If the jury accepts her sudden passion defense, she could get as little as two years in prison and serve a little over one year with time off for good behavior.

 

[MarcATL]

They are going to need a Geiger counter after the prisoners nuke Guyger.

Before she is assigned to a unit, I'd volunteer to set up a special unit and community service program for her and/or Rivera if he also loses his job (and even reach out to George Zimmerman if he'd like to create a job for himself working as security for churches in the last historic Black District of its kind in the nation that needs help to develop its campus plans for restoring the community www.campusplan.org). If Guyger and others want to come work there while serving out their sentences, it would be safer than risking them becoming targets in the prison system and culture. With Amber Guyger and Botham Jean, since public demand for justice over racial perception issues were part of the reason the charges were bumped up to murder instead of prosecuting as reckless homicide, the idea of helping to remedy political racist destruction of a Black historic Civil Rights landmark might offer a better solution to the public outcry over this and other cases. www.freedmenstown.com

You are out of your cotton pickin' mind.

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[MarcATL]

My guess is for 14 years.

I think they're going to throw the book at her ass. Prepare for 99 years.

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[MarcATL]

She was never going to get a fair trail with a mostly Negro jury and a hate filled Negro judge.

There were like 2 pure whites, Not one gave her a pass.

I have been a foreman on a murder trial before. Some jury members can be intimidated by others. I know because I was an intimidator and pretty well got the verdict I wanted. I am sure those Negroes were hell bent on finding the White woman guilty of murdering their Soul Brother.

The Negro judge also made some pretty prejudicial rulings. Like not letting the Black Texas Ranger in charge of the investigation testify that he came to the conclusion that there was no crime committed.

Then you have the family filth that made it a racial thing by declaring that it was "justice for Travvon". My god was that despicable.

Juror No. 5 on the Trayvon Martin case was intimidated into joining the rest of the white group into that false verdict they came up with.

She regrets it to this day.

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