America is a different place than it was 75 years ago - it was relatively safe

[beagle9]

. For many in the countries states, cities, and towns it was safe, but if we're called up for war then the game changed quickly for those after they left the safety of this nation to go off and fight another.

We lose around 8500 a year to murder every year......during WWII we were losing around 100,000 a year.....
Not very safe

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We lose around 8500 a year to murder every year......during WWII we were losing around 100,000 a year.....
Not very safe

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

A Paradise for Pompous Parasites

You anarchists feverishly push the dogma that the government is some outside power interfering with the people's business. True, it has become that way, and the anti-democratic Constitution designed it to be that way, but that is because of the know-it-all nobodies who stole it from us, the people. It is not utopian to believe that those in power over us (in every field) can benefit us; we can take over just as easily as the inferior people in superior positions in government, business, and education have taken over.

 

[rightwinger]

We lose around 8500 a year to murder every year......during WWII we were losing around 100,000 a year.....
Not very safe

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

People did help each other back then

Somebody in your neighborhood got sick....everyone would pitch in to help
But for how long? A month? A year? Twenty years?

We saw what happened in the Depression when 25% were unemployed. I'd like to help you but we are struggling too. Get on a bread line and hope they do not run out of bread
The Dust Bowl where agriculture in a dozen states was wiped out. Are your neighbors going to help you?
They can't even help themselves

 

[beagle9]

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

People did help each other back then

Somebody in your neighborhood got sick....everyone would pitch in to help
But for how long? A month? A year? Twenty years?

We saw what happened in the Depression when 25% were unemployed. I'd like to help you but we are struggling too. Get on a bread line and hope they do not run out of bread
The Dust Bowl where agriculture in a dozen states was wiped out. Are your neighbors going to help you?
They can't even help themselves

. Agree that government has a role, but when we see the ills of our society being exploited and used by those who have alternative agenda's in order to push something through or to grow poverty to untold levels in order to get voters to keep those in power that operate in this way, then Houston we have a huge problem. We have seen government taken over by creatins, and we have seen the results of the abuses of power in which they have been involved in.

 

[rightwinger]

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

People did help each other back then

Somebody in your neighborhood got sick....everyone would pitch in to help
But for how long? A month? A year? Twenty years?

We saw what happened in the Depression when 25% were unemployed. I'd like to help you but we are struggling too. Get on a bread line and hope they do not run out of bread
The Dust Bowl where agriculture in a dozen states was wiped out. Are your neighbors going to help you?
They can't even help themselves

. Agree that government has a role, but when we see the ills of our society being exploited and used by those who have alternative agenda's in order to push something through or to grow poverty to untold levels in order to get voters to keep those in power that operate in this way, then Houston we have a huge problem. We have seen government taken over by creatins, and we have seen the results of the abuses of power in which they have been involved in.

Word salad

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We lose around 8500 a year to murder every year......during WWII we were losing around 100,000 a year.....
Not very safe

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

Anyone Born With a Silver Spoon in His Mouth Will Always Speak With a Forked Tongue

To repeat, because Americans get the opposite view drummed into them from cradle to grave, Liberals are unconscious agents of the Right Wing they were born in. Despite the obvious evidence of their snobbery and Born to Rule attitude, a mental block implanted by their own plutocratic regime causes us to deny the connection.

Liberals don't have minds of their own; they are totally driven by their childhood indoctrination in anti-democratic dogma and birth-class supremacy. As adolescents, they indulge in rejection of their fathers but they retain their aristocratic desire to destroy the government. So they don't believe in anything on their agenda; it is used as a tool to get the middle class to reject the government and leave ourselves at the mercy of the private powers.

 

[RASTAMEN]

. 8500 a year in respect to 400 million citizens, and this in comparison to other nations during peace time or war time ? Relatively safe wouldn't you say ?

Not at all safe

We were at war
There' was no workplace safety
Polio, TB, influenza were rampant
Emergency care was almost nonexistent

. Even so, people were alot different back then. They weren't depended on the system like they are now, and that was a very good thing. What is a man that gains the whole world, yet looses his own soul or what will he give in exchange for his soul ? The lies these days are going to soon end with tragic consequences, and they will be consequences in which people's choices will have made. It's amazing the lives that we're lived in spite of all that existed or still exist around us. God is the answer, and without him we are nothing.

Once again you are romanticizing misery and suffering

People were not dependent on the system back then because there was no system. You got sick and lost your job? Too bad for you. The factory in town closed its doors? That's your problem. Hurricane or earthquake? Don't look to me for help

. What's your point ?? People helped one another back then (you claiming they didn't ?), and they have always done that in America, but the government tried to take the job over due to the growing problem of independent greed that was evolving rapidly in the wrong directions, but like with everything they do though, they went and made it far worse than it could have ever been, and it has been proven through out various time periods now.... Otherwise it should have just stayed the hell out of it for the most part, and if it did get involved, then bring everyone to the table for a solution instead of becoming a government run dictatorship that leans in the direction of the helpless forever dependent upon government lefty's.

Anyone Born With a Silver Spoon in His Mouth Will Always Speak With a Forked Tongue

To repeat, because Americans get the opposite view drummed into them from cradle to grave, Liberals are unconscious agents of the Right Wing they were born in. Despite the obvious evidence of their snobbery and Born to Rule attitude, a mental block implanted by their own plutocratic regime causes us to deny the connection.

Liberals don't have minds of their own; they are totally driven by their childhood indoctrination in anti-democratic dogma and birth-class supremacy. As adolescents, they indulge in rejection of their fathers but they retain their aristocratic desire to destroy the government. So they don't believe in anything on their agenda; it is used as a tool to get the middle class to reject the government and leave ourselves at the mercy of the private powers.

 

[yiostheoy]

Seventy five years ago people in America walked the streets at night in major cities with few concerns...and left doors open all night.

Shoplifting was a minor problem and violence against Law Enforcement was nearly unheard of.

It was a friendlier time when you were more likely to be helped by your fellow American than hurt by them.

Today...we live in a totally different place. Danger is lurking everywhere. Theft and crime run rampant. Police are shot and killed for fun. The elderly are victimized as quickly as anyone else.....
Brazen Thief Steals Purse From Woman, 82, on Scooter at California Supermarket

Young people text and drive killing thousands each year......People cheat the system rampantly....

The ONE caveat, and an important one, is that Civil Rights are more equally spread among all Americans.
But at what cost? Did we trade a safe society for one that has everyone closer to equal?
Surely VERY few people actually would still support slavery and the majority are pleased with equality for all.
But again, at what price?

So, what exactly has changed?

Was not safe for German girls.

There has always been lots of crime.

This was a period of war crimes.

 

[skye]

I want to go back to the music and fashion of the 1920s.

I miss it I miss the 20s.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Seventy five years ago people in America walked the streets at night in major cities with few concerns...and left doors open all night.

Shoplifting was a minor problem and violence against Law Enforcement was nearly unheard of.

It was a friendlier time when you were more likely to be helped by your fellow American than hurt by them.

Today...we live in a totally different place. Danger is lurking everywhere. Theft and crime run rampant. Police are shot and killed for fun. The elderly are victimized as quickly as anyone else.....
Brazen Thief Steals Purse From Woman, 82, on Scooter at California Supermarket

Young people text and drive killing thousands each year......People cheat the system rampantly....

The ONE caveat, and an important one, is that Civil Rights are more equally spread among all Americans.
But at what cost? Did we trade a safe society for one that has everyone closer to equal?
Surely VERY few people actually would still support slavery and the majority are pleased with equality for all.
But again, at what price?

So, what exactly has changed?

Nonsense.

75 years ago there was no cable TV – no 24/7 news coverage, no internet, text, or email.

The same crimes were being committed 75 years ago, it’s just that no one heard about them, unlike today.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I want to go back to the music and fashion of the 1920s.

I miss it I miss the 20s.

No, you don't "miss" the 20s.

Unless you're closing in on 100.

 

[skye]

I want to go back to the music and fashion of the 1920s.

I miss it I miss the 20s.

No, you don't "miss" the 20s.

Unless you're closing in on 100.

Yes. I miss the 20s.

I can read and see photos and listen to the music of the 20s.

I miss the 20s I want them back.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

We lose around 8500 a year to murder every year......during WWII we were losing around 100,000 a year.....
Not very safe

Your responses miss the point.....

I did not say Americans were safe no matter where in the world they went.....
Go back and read the first line of the OP where I set the tone clearly......

"Seventy five years ago people in America walked the streets at night in major cities with few concerns...and left doors open all night."

The context was crime. Not war.

The OP had absolutely nothing to do with the war in Europe

Wanna try again?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

OMG some people live in a world that never existed/

Repost: Oh the lost glory times, the times when women couldn't even vote, farther back blacks were bought and sold and lynched, and the poor with no social network went hungry or died from easily preventable illness, when gays had to hide so as not to be beaten or killed, when racism was rampant, lead poisoned the children, polio and flu killed, pollution poisoned the air and rivers and lakes killed wildlife, farming died in the dust, soup lines in the thirties. The glory days for sure. Back ally abortion for the poor who often died and doctors for the rich woman, third world poverty for many and golden castles for some, lung disease for workers with asbestos and coal, and no federal safety net for your savings as banks went dark, oh the glory days for sure.

This is Your Story - The Progressive Story of America. Pass It On.

Exactly.

The thread premise is yet another example of reactionary rightwing rubbish, a pathetic fantasy contrived by conservatives longing for an idealized American past that never existed to begin with – an American past that was in no manner ‘ideal’ for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans, and women.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Stop whining. I didnt say all. Lots of white women love Black people

You explicitly lumped ALL whites under your obviously racist umbrella and now you're trying to wiggle out of your oversight.

If you meant "some" whites you should say so.

and BTW....lots of black women LOVE white people....surprise!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Seventy five years ago people in America walked the streets at night in major cities with few concerns...and left doors open all night.

Shoplifting was a minor problem and violence against Law Enforcement was nearly unheard of.

It was a friendlier time when you were more likely to be helped by your fellow American than hurt by them.

Today...we live in a totally different place. Danger is lurking everywhere. Theft and crime run rampant. Police are shot and killed for fun. The elderly are victimized as quickly as anyone else.....
Brazen Thief Steals Purse From Woman, 82, on Scooter at California Supermarket

Young people text and drive killing thousands each year......People cheat the system rampantly....

The ONE caveat, and an important one, is that Civil Rights are more equally spread among all Americans.
But at what cost? Did we trade a safe society for one that has everyone closer to equal?
Surely VERY few people actually would still support slavery and the majority are pleased with equality for all.
But again, at what price?

So, what exactly has changed?

The only thing that has changed appreciably is that we now hear about crimes that we never used to.

The world was not safer. In fact, in some ways, it was much more dangerous.

It is especially disgusting that the OP blames an end to slavery for more crimes. I'm often glad I'm not in the same room with some of you. And you should be glad as well.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I want to go back to the music and fashion of the 1920s.

I miss it I miss the 20s.

No, you don't "miss" the 20s.

Unless you're closing in on 100.

Yes. I miss the 20s.

I can read and see photos and listen to the music of the 20s.

I miss the 20s I want them back.

Again, no. You don't "miss" the 20s. You can't miss something that you've never experienced.

You have a fantasy of what the 20s was, and you long for it.

 

[bullwinkle]

OMG some people live in a world that never existed/

Repost: Oh the lost glory times, the times when women couldn't even vote, farther back blacks were bought and sold and lynched, and the poor with no social network went hungry or died from easily preventable illness, when gays had to hide so as not to be beaten or killed, when racism was rampant, lead poisoned the children, polio and flu killed, pollution poisoned the air and rivers and lakes killed wildlife, farming died in the dust, soup lines in the thirties. The glory days for sure. Back ally abortion for the poor who often died and doctors for the rich woman, third world poverty for many and golden castles for some, lung disease for workers with asbestos and coal, and no federal safety net for your savings as banks went dark, oh the glory days for sure.

This is Your Story - The Progressive Story of America. Pass It On.

Exactly.

The thread premise is yet another example of reactionary rightwing rubbish, a pathetic fantasy contrived by conservatives longing for an idealized American past that never existed to begin with – an American past that was in no manner ‘ideal’ for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, gay Americans, and women.

Those Old Westerns

 

[skye]

I want to go back to the music and fashion of the 1920s.

I miss it I miss the 20s.

No, you don't "miss" the 20s.

Unless you're closing in on 100.

Yes. I miss the 20s.

I can read and see photos and listen to the music of the 20s.

I miss the 20s I want them back.

Again, no. You don't "miss" the 20s. You can't miss something that you've never experienced.

You have a fantasy of what the 20s was, and you long for it.

I miss the 20s.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The only thing that has changed appreciably is that we now hear about crimes that we never used to.

The world was not safer. In fact, in some ways, it was much more dangerous.

It is especially disgusting that the OP blames an end to slavery for more crimes. I'm often glad I'm not in the same room with some of you. And you should be glad as well.

What's especially disgusting is that you believe your own lies.
I said no such thing.

And yes..it is MUCH different. The number of people is different. The reasons they are here are different....and the number of angry people born to really bad situations has changed.

To say it's the same is borderline madness.