America is ‘flying blind’ to the coronavirus mutations

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

There are those of us unable to take the current COVID vaccines. Like their (our) reactions to flu vaccines, they can be deadly.


.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

You know this isn't about the 100%. It's about the "vaccine" not preventing infection and transmission.

Of course its about the 100%. Now if youre youre just trying to be technical then you don't get the jist of what efficacy means.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

There are those of us unable to take the current COVID vaccines. Like their (our) reactions to flu vaccines, they can be deadly.


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This is true which is why it will never 100% prevent infection or transmission. Some people simply cant handle their own bodies immune response or lack of it.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

There are those of us unable to take the current COVID vaccines. Like their (our) reactions to flu vaccines, they can be deadly.


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Anyone's reaction to the vaccine could be deadly

Which is why no1 should take it

Maybe you should give out the advice you live lol

Chances of dying of covid for most people is infinitesimally small too. And the risk of vaccine related death goes up with risk of dying to covid so it's a wash

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

You know this isn't about the 100%. It's about the "vaccine" not preventing infection and transmission.

Of course its about the 100%. Now if youre youre just trying to be technical then you don't get the jist of what efficacy means.

You're really obsessing on this 100% thing. Again, I never said 100%.

Hey, maybe you can point me toward anything that will tell me that the "vaccine" prevents infection and transmission. Everyone here seems to be unable to produce such a thing, and it's making them angry I think.

 

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



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yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


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I'm an independent

Trump loved big pharma

Just like the left apparently/

Retard, look at how low you will go out of fear of a cold.

Fucking wanna be socialists are so pathetic. Next you're going to cheer on GME short squeezes as a fucking borderline commie. lol I think it's funny but i'm also not against speculative markets. I'm a liberal not a progressive.

Again, do everything you can to contract any version of COVID. Your credibility now depends on the proof your runny nose, achy joints, and survival will provide.

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[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



.

yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


.

I'm an independent

Trump loved big pharma

Just like the left apparently/

Retard, look at how low you will go out of fear of a cold.

Fucking wanna be socialists are so pathetic. Next you're going to cheer on GME short squeezes as a fucking borderline commie. lol I think it's funny but i'm also not against speculative markets. I'm a liberal not a progressive.

Again, do everything you can to contract any version of COVID. Your credibility now depends on the proof your runny nose, achy joints, and survival will provide.

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I've walked into a hospital willingly multiple times in the last year, once to get a covid test

not scared

i have asthma too

Also went to the dentist, breathed all over the place. Scary

I've had viral pneumonia before....It won't kill you unless you're a baby or a senior citizen.

Maybe don't tell others to get a vaccine you're not dumb enough to get. You inconsiderate coward

 

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

There are those of us unable to take the current COVID vaccines. Like their (our) reactions to flu vaccines, they can be deadly.


.

Anyone's reaction to the vaccine could be deadly

Which is why no1 should take it

Maybe you should give out the advice you live lol

Chances of dying of covid for most people is infinitesimally small too. And the risk of vaccine related death goes up with risk of dying to covid so it's a wash

Yes, those 400,000 Americans the virus killed (so far) would be quick to agree with you, if they weren't dead.


.

 

[Briss]

Its gonna years for all of us to get beyond this pandemic.....and the sooner we all get use to it the better. Until these rednecks get the memo and mask up, this shit is never going away. And them 40 thousand murderers that showed up in DC and weeks later, the UK, the SAF virus appears??????all these mutations stemmed from that insurgence

Are you fukin' kiddin' me man? All of us masked up. Otherwise, we couldn't have obliterated the flu. Your mask theory kind of ran into a snag there, didn't it?

And hell, Tony himself wasn't worried about being infected by the two beside him at the stadium. In fact, he decided it was safe to remove it. There's just no tellin' what that guy's gonna say or do next.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

Colds escalate, there is no "this one is worse based on my personal experience"

There si only "this one was worse for me"

If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia.

Tens of thousands die to it every year. But generally those again are the immuno compromised, babies , and the elderly.

It's much more just spreading quickly than it is particularly deadly.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



.

yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


.

I'm an independent

Trump loved big pharma

Just like the left apparently/

Retard, look at how low you will go out of fear of a cold.

Fucking wanna be socialists are so pathetic. Next you're going to cheer on GME short squeezes as a fucking borderline commie. lol I think it's funny but i'm also not against speculative markets. I'm a liberal not a progressive.

Again, do everything you can to contract any version of COVID. Your credibility now depends on the proof your runny nose, achy joints, and survival will provide.

.

I've walked into a hospital willingly multiple times in the last year, once to get a covid test

not scared

i have asthma too

Also went to the dentist, breathed all over the place. Scary

I've had viral pneumonia before....It won't kill you unless you're a baby or a senior citizen.

Maybe don't tell others to get a vaccine you're not dumb enough to get. You inconsiderate coward

If you have asthma you better hope you dont catch this. Or if you do catch it that it doesnt hit you like it hit me.

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

Colds escalate, there is no "this one is worse based on my personal experience"

There si only "this one was worse for me"

If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia.

Tens of thousands die to it every year. But generally those again are the immuno compromised, babies , and the elderly.

It's much more just spreading quickly than it is particularly deadly.

" If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia. "

This was nothing like a cold. I couldnt get enough oxygen. Nothing was clogging up. No mucus. Just felt like I had run two marathons for every step i took.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Yes, every mistake and misstep can be directly linked to either, the weasel-in-chief's incompetence or his petty and vindictive nature. None of which can be blamed on anyone but the weasel-in-chief... himself.



.

yea let's just pump money into big pharma for vaccines against colds we don't need. great idea

idiot

and you fucking retards wonder why the rich win in this country. Most of you are useless ***** that's why.

As another of trump's devoted Nazis, dedicated to defending his 30,000+ lies, it is best if you do everything in your power to contract the most recent variant of COVID-19. You can then prove to the world you are suffering from nothing more than a common cold.

You will be a hero to all other trump's Nazis. That is, if you survive that particular "cold".


.

I'm an independent

Trump loved big pharma

Just like the left apparently/

Retard, look at how low you will go out of fear of a cold.

Fucking wanna be socialists are so pathetic. Next you're going to cheer on GME short squeezes as a fucking borderline commie. lol I think it's funny but i'm also not against speculative markets. I'm a liberal not a progressive.

Again, do everything you can to contract any version of COVID. Your credibility now depends on the proof your runny nose, achy joints, and survival will provide.

.

I've walked into a hospital willingly multiple times in the last year, once to get a covid test

not scared

i have asthma too

Also went to the dentist, breathed all over the place. Scary

I've had viral pneumonia before....It won't kill you unless you're a baby or a senior citizen.

Maybe don't tell others to get a vaccine you're not dumb enough to get. You inconsiderate coward

If you have asthma you better hope you dont catch this. Or if you do catch it that it doesnt hit you like it hit me.

I have survived viral* pneumonia 4 times in my life.

Once as a tiny little baby

I think i might make it through at 30 as long as some retarded doctor doesn't shove ventilator tubes down my throat

 

[BertramN]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

The millions of idiots across America, like those on these message boards, will never be convinced until the lay dying from COVID. Even then, it's 50/50 whether the idiots will believe the disease exists.


.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

Colds escalate, there is no "this one is worse based on my personal experience"

There si only "this one was worse for me"

If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia.

Tens of thousands die to it every year. But generally those again are the immuno compromised, babies , and the elderly.

It's much more just spreading quickly than it is particularly deadly.

" If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia. "

This was nothing like a cold. I couldnt get enough oxygen. Nothing was clogging up. No mucus. Just felt like I had run two marathons for every step i took.

Yea that's pneumonia

lol

very normal escalation of a cold, very unlikely to die without medical malpractice if you're middle aged and vaguely healthy otherwise. Literal fluid in your lungs.

For whatever reason you just didn't have sinus reactions.

If waht you're describing is just lethargy...Well who cares quit whining

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

The millions of idiots across America, like those on these message boards will never be convinced until the lay dying from COVID. Even then, it's 50/50 whether the idiots will believe the disease exists.


.

I saw something on the news that validates that point. There was a nurse that was talking about how Dump supporters would be on their last breath and about to die and still claiming it was all a hoax.

 

[Briss]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

The millions of idiots across America, like those on these message boards will never be convinced until the lay dying from COVID. Even then, it's 50/50 whether the idiots will believe the disease exists.


.

It was frickin' idiots who made the decision to quarantine everybody and their healthy brother instead of the at-risk group. I'm dying to hear you explain the value of that kind of reasoning.

 

[Juicin]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

That's odd because neither the WHO, the CDC, or the manufacturers themselves have claimed that their product prevents infection or transmission. You have some inside information?

Who said it 100% prevents infection or transmission? Those antigens have to build and they have to be numerous. You could take a shot today and contract the virus the next day and the vaccine would be useless. What if youre one of those people with a weak immune system? What if the vaccine kills you?

Where did I say 100%?

You implied it. The top vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate. 100% is going to be impossible due to the nature of human physiology.

There are those of us unable to take the current COVID vaccines. Like their (our) reactions to flu vaccines, they can be deadly.


.

Anyone's reaction to the vaccine could be deadly

Which is why no1 should take it

Maybe you should give out the advice you live lol

Chances of dying of covid for most people is infinitesimally small too. And the risk of vaccine related death goes up with risk of dying to covid so it's a wash

Yes, those 400,000 Americans the virus killed (so far) would be quick to agree with you, if they weren't dead.


.

Covid has killed at most 150k, for covid to kill you, you have to die of pneumonia

There are not 400k deaths lol

At most 150k

400k people died with a positive PCR test. Which is a very different thing

 

[Asclepias]

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

They still work like traditional vaccines. They just have the benefit of not having any of the real virus in them.

No they really don't

And the reason we don't have cold vaccines like we do flu vaccines is because historically they just end up getting much worse outcomes from animals when we test it on when they're exposed to the virus the second time.

So be careful people.

No point in making ridiculous partisan comments like “Slow Joe must be sleeping at the wheel” considering his team has been in power for just over a week.

But the issue is important and it goes to show the seriousness of fighting new viral epidemics and not waiting for “herd immunity” to naturally end them, as some here have preached.

Every month that passes, as the virus spreads more widely, allows for the possibility of new mutations, and in theory it is possible that a new strain could not just spread more quickly and be resistant to present vaccines, but it could also become more fatal. Imagine if a new Covid strain attacked young people as severely as it does old ones!

Anyway, things aren’t that serious now, and probably Covid-19 will never become such a threat. But we shouldn’t forget that all our soldiers & nuclear weapons couldn’t defend us from this new pathogen! We must work hard, and with the rest of the world, to increase our defenses against such threats!

Right! And since the new "vaccines" don't prevent infection or transmission, what in hell are we going to do?

If we werent behind the eightball we could be using the genetic sequencing to come up with vaccines that will stop the virus.

Well then it wouldn't really be a vaccine as people understand them, would it?

I'm pretty sure that's what the mrna "vaccines" are. They aren't really vaccines in a conventional sense

No, they're not . . .

What do you think they are? Because that's what they are

It's a genetically engineered "vaccine"

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Learn how mRNA vaccines trigger an immune response against COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

Is it a vaccine or isn't it?

in the conventional sense? no

what the fuck are you talking about? lol

Yes they do.

The new vaccines replicate the protein key of the virus which is used to unlock the door to your cells and allow the virus to penetrate and infect you. The traditional vaccines do almost the same thing except they use a dead piece of the real virus to trigger your body into building antigens.

The cold and flu mutates every season so they have to guess which way it will mutate. That guess seems to be pretty good with the flu but not so much with the cold. Thats why we have to keep getting a flu shot. If the cold was serious enough we would be getting a shot for that too.

There are all sorts of nuances there, we do not have a full understanding of how vaccines work and why some are easy to implement and others are not.

Otherwise we'd have all sorts of cold vaccines being sold to us every year

Even if they did work the same, like i said cold vaccines do not have a good history. So in this case pray it doesn't work the same.

I don't see how you could possibly imagine injecting yourself with ultra cold genetic sequencing is the same as a conventional vaccine but ok sure you do you. Also doesn't explain why the mrna claims to be more effective than the conventional astra zeneca from britain.

" So in this case pray it doesn't work the same. "

It works exactly the same. What we better pray is that Covid doesn't become more lethal as well as transmittable. That protein key may get better at unlocking the cells as it mutates.

They're COLDS DUDE. IT'S CONSTANTLY SHIFTING

HAVE YOU NOT REALIZED?

THIS WILL NEVER END AND HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE WE WERE BORN

god damn

Should be so clear with new strains and new variants. What you all reacted to was just a slightly worse cold than usual, that was all. Nothing will change from here on out. We go on about our fucking business.

only difference is now they're marking the specific strain of cold on medical charts as opposed to just writing "cold" or "viral pneumonia"

Yes I already said the cold constantly mutates. Covid-19 is more like the cold than the flu except it not only kills more people we dont know what it does to you long term. True this may never end but at least we can keep one step behind or best case scenario one step ahead. Right now we are about 20 steps behind because of Dumps fuckup.

We don't know what any of the colds do, any of the strains

It's always been that way

Very similar risk profiles.

Had we been PCR testing for all of them you would probably see similar numbers dying with teh virus. Because that's all the positive PCR test means.

And the talk of heart problems is all anecdotal and correlation. Nothing substantive there.

A minuscule % of the population dying is bad, doubling is bad. But it's still minuscule.

To continue on like this is absurd. Just paying big pharma for nothing.

I've had colds before and they are nothing compared to Covid. I think I caught it back in Nov of 2019. Luckily I keep to myself when I get sick so I didnt visit anyone. I'm normally in excellent health. I still run double court with 20 year olds. This put me on my ass. I couldnt walk 10 steps without getting winded. Lasted for 2 weeks and then was gone like it never happened. I would hate to think what it would do to someone that wasnt in top physical condition. I said all that to say this isnt just a bad cold. You dont overrun hospitals with bad colds.

Colds escalate, there is no "this one is worse based on my personal experience"

There si only "this one was worse for me"

If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia.

Tens of thousands die to it every year. But generally those again are the immuno compromised, babies , and the elderly.

It's much more just spreading quickly than it is particularly deadly.

" If you didn't have pneumonia it wasn't that bad. All colds can cause pneumonia. "

This was nothing like a cold. I couldnt get enough oxygen. Nothing was clogging up. No mucus. Just felt like I had run two marathons for every step i took.

Yea that's pneumonia

lol

very normal escalation of a cold, very unlikely to die without medical malpractice if you're middle aged and vaguely healthy otherwise. Literal fluid in your lungs.

For whatever reason you just didn't have sinus reactions.

If waht you're describing is just lethargy...Well who cares quit whining

You keep saying escalation of a cold. I never had a cold. It came one day and persisted for about 2 weeks and was gone. Never had any cold symptoms the entire time. I was just winded. Literally the day after it stopped i was out playing basketball again.