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America....The Present and The Future

Wrestling over the meaning and application of the Constitution is nothing more than partisan mental masturbation at this point.

If conservatives want to move the country in their direction, they have to start (a) marginalizing their talk radio parrots and (b) providing the electorate with a better alternative.

The rest is noise.
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"Our founding fathers were the greatest liberals of their era"

Which of your contemporary 'Liberals' favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government?

None, huh.




I can't recall a day I didn't catch you lying....

Can you?

Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government



Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB



"RIGHT-winger"????????????????



Gee, that one was easy.

As many are not aware, I was named after my maternal grandfather Rightwinger McGee. He was a minor league pitcher in the Chicago White Sox organization in the 1920s. As fate would have it...he was a southpaw

Rightwinger McGee in his prime

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As many are not aware, I was named after my maternal grandfather Rightwinger McGee. He was a minor league pitcher in the Chicago White Sox organization in the 1920s. As fate would have it...he was a southpaw

The pathological lying continues... :eusa_doh:

The many adventures of Rightwinger McGee are well documented
I ever tell you about the time he struck out Babe Ruth while totally drunk?
 
Liberals want a government that helps those that need help.

Boom! Game Over right there. A governmet that "helps those in need" is not constitutional government. Also - proof that you've never read the U.S. Constitution.

:dance:

Of course it is......We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
 
Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Liberals love the collective. Where everyone is forced to row in the exact same direction. Why do you think you can lie to us RW? We've seen all of your posts and all of the posts of your fellow liberals calling for the collective and openly admitting that you could give a shit about the individual.

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

RW - liberals have no idea what constitutional government is. None of you have ever read the document and whenever one of us posts a section of it as proof - you guys deliberately attempt to misconstrue what it means to fit your agenda.

Hardly

Liberals want a government that helps those that need help. A government that does what needs to be done as dictated by We the People

Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it


OK....let's hoist you by your own Petard....

"Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is..."

Then you should know that article 1, section 8 specifies what the functions of the federal government can and should do.

Pensions, charity, personal insurance are not a part of same.
That means that the government has no authority in those areas.

So.......why didn't FDR/Liberals authorize the right for social security via article five....the amendment process?


Clearly...

a. your variety of Liberal....socialists and communists.....never had anything to do with the Constitution.....you simply assassinated same...

and

b either you are totally clueless about the Constitution, or....you've been exposed again as a congenital liar.


Have a nice day.
 
Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government



Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB



"RIGHT-winger"????????????????



Gee, that one was easy.

As many are not aware, I was named after my maternal grandfather Rightwinger McGee. He was a minor league pitcher in the Chicago White Sox organization in the 1920s. As fate would have it...he was a southpaw

Rightwinger McGee in his prime

View attachment 77573




You.....

 
Liberals want a government that helps those that need help.

Boom! Game Over right there. A governmet that "helps those in need" is not constitutional government. Also - proof that you've never read the U.S. Constitution.

:dance:

Of course it is......We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The federal government is restricted to 18 enumerated powers and "helping those in need" is not one of them. Of course - never having actually read the U.S. Constitution - one wouldn't expect you to be aware of that reality. But here is the ultimate constitutional conservative obliterating your false narrative...

Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action” - Thomas Jefferson (June 6, 1817)

“[We] disavow, and declare to be most false and unfounded, the doctrine that the [Constitution], in authorizing its federal branch to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, has given them thereby a power to do whatever they may think, or pretend, would promote the general welfare–which construction would make that of itself a complete government, without limitation of powers.… The plain sense and obvious meaning were that they might levy the taxes necessary to provide for the general welfare by the various acts of power therein specified and delegated to them, and by no others. – Thomas Jefferson (December 24, 1825)

Game over.

:dance:
 
Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Liberals love the collective. Where everyone is forced to row in the exact same direction. Why do you think you can lie to us RW? We've seen all of your posts and all of the posts of your fellow liberals calling for the collective and openly admitting that you could give a shit about the individual.

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

RW - liberals have no idea what constitutional government is. None of you have ever read the document and whenever one of us posts a section of it as proof - you guys deliberately attempt to misconstrue what it means to fit your agenda.

Hardly

Liberals want a government that helps those that need help. A government that does what needs to be done as dictated by We the People

Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it


OK....let's hoist you by your own Petard....

"Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is..."

Then you should know that article 1, section 8 specifies what the functions of the federal government can and should do.

Pensions, charity, personal insurance are not a part of same.
That means that the government has no authority in those areas.

So.......why didn't FDR/Liberals authorize the right for social security via article five....the amendment process?


Clearly...

a. your variety of Liberal....socialists and communists.....never had anything to do with the Constitution.....you simply assassinated same...

and

b either you are totally clueless about the Constitution, or....you've been exposed again as a congenital liar.


Have a nice day.

As affirmed by hundreds of judicial cases, Article 1, Section
8 gives Congress wide latitude in how they serve "We the People"

Petard THAT
 
Liberals love individualism and free markets. We also understand there are times when they must be regulated

Liberals love the collective. Where everyone is forced to row in the exact same direction. Why do you think you can lie to us RW? We've seen all of your posts and all of the posts of your fellow liberals calling for the collective and openly admitting that you could give a shit about the individual.

Limited constitutional government? We believe in the right sized constitutional government

RW - liberals have no idea what constitutional government is. None of you have ever read the document and whenever one of us posts a section of it as proof - you guys deliberately attempt to misconstrue what it means to fit your agenda.

Hardly

Liberals want a government that helps those that need help. A government that does what needs to be done as dictated by We the People

Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it


OK....let's hoist you by your own Petard....

"Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is..."

Then you should know that article 1, section 8 specifies what the functions of the federal government can and should do.

Pensions, charity, personal insurance are not a part of same.
That means that the government has no authority in those areas.

So.......why didn't FDR/Liberals authorize the right for social security via article five....the amendment process?


Clearly...

a. your variety of Liberal....socialists and communists.....never had anything to do with the Constitution.....you simply assassinated same...

and

b either you are totally clueless about the Constitution, or....you've been exposed again as a congenital liar.


Have a nice day.
You are a dunce. They Constitution says what the SCOTUS says it says. The Constitution lets them interpret the meanings of the components that make the constitution. If people don't like the interpretations they have the option of legislation and a process to rewrite or change it. Otherwise, folks like you are just common bullshitters with no authority or standing to do anything except whine.
 
Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it

More proof that you're a pathological liar. We wrote it. Sadly, you idiots do everything you can to eliminate it.
Who is "We" and why doesn't your name appear in the history books?
Who is "we"? Conservatives. You know - the people who fought for and then founded this nation. And are forced every single day to protect it from oppressive idiot liberals who want government to control everything and everyone.
 
Just curious.....why is it that lying is never a bother to you socialists/communists?

I am the most honest poster on USMB



"RIGHT-winger"????????????????



Gee, that one was easy.

As many are not aware, I was named after my maternal grandfather Rightwinger McGee. He was a minor league pitcher in the Chicago White Sox organization in the 1920s. As fate would have it...he was a southpaw

Rightwinger McGee in his prime

View attachment 77573




You.....



Rightwinger McGee was a legend in his time, Not necessarily for his pitching prowess but for his drunken escapades and poor choices in women

It is for Rightwinger McGee that I am proudly named and continue his legacy
 
As affirmed by hundreds of judicial cases, Article 1, Section8 gives Congress wide latitude in how they serve "We the People"

"Judicial Cases" are not the U.S. Constitution, junior. :cuckoo:

That's literally as stupid as me pointing to the eradication of polio as "proof" that we've cured cancer. :eusa_doh:
 
Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it

More proof that you're a pathological liar. We wrote it. Sadly, you idiots do everything you can to eliminate it.
Who is "We" and why doesn't your name appear in the history books?
Who is "we"? Conservatives. You know - the people who fought for and then founded this nation. And are forced every single day to protect it from oppressive idiot liberals who want government to control everything and everyone.

Liberals fought and died to found this great country. Conservatives supported the King
 
As affirmed by hundreds of judicial cases, Article 1, Section8 gives Congress wide latitude in how they serve "We the People"

"Judicial Cases" are not the U.S. Constitution, junior. :cuckoo:

That's literally as stupid as me pointing to the eradication of polio as "proof" that we've cured cancer. :eusa_doh:

Another moron enamored with the Constitution but totally blind to its application
 
Rightwinger McGee was a legend in his time, Not necessarily for his pitching prowess but for his drunken escapades and poor choices in women

It is for Rightwinger McGee that I am proudly named and continue his legacy

First accurate thing you have ever said on USMB. :lol:
 
Liberals want a government that helps those that need help.

Boom! Game Over right there. A governmet that "helps those in need" is not constitutional government. Also - proof that you've never read the U.S. Constitution.

:dance:

Of course it is......We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The federal government is restricted to 18 enumerated powers and "helping those in need" is not one of them. Of course - never having actually read the U.S. Constitution - one wouldn't expect you to be aware of that reality. But here is the ultimate constitutional conservative obliterating your false narrative...

Congress had not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but were restrained to those specifically enumerated; and that, as it was never meant they should provide for that welfare but by the exercise of the enumerated powers, so it could not have been meant they should raise money for purposes which the enumeration did not place under their action” - Thomas Jefferson (June 6, 1817)

“[We] disavow, and declare to be most false and unfounded, the doctrine that the [Constitution], in authorizing its federal branch to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, has given them thereby a power to do whatever they may think, or pretend, would promote the general welfare–which construction would make that of itself a complete government, without limitation of powers.… The plain sense and obvious meaning were that they might levy the taxes necessary to provide for the general welfare by the various acts of power therein specified and delegated to them, and by no others. – Thomas Jefferson (December 24, 1825)

Game over.

:dance:


200 years of judicial interpretation says otherwise
 
Liberals are fully aware of what a Constitutional government is...we wrote it

More proof that you're a pathological liar. We wrote it. Sadly, you idiots do everything you can to eliminate it.
Who is "We" and why doesn't your name appear in the history books?
Who is "we"? Conservatives. You know - the people who fought for and then founded this nation. And are forced every single day to protect it from oppressive idiot liberals who want government to control everything and everyone.

Liberals fought and died to found this great country. Conservatives supported the King
Liberals dodge the draft. They supported the oppressive government of the king in 1776 and they support an oppressive government today. Every day you simpletons try to make the president a king - with unlimited powers. You can lie all you want but history has been well documented junior.
 

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