Zone1 American after living abroad

[Captain Caveman]

Taxes......human rights, for starters.

Would need a separate section on taxes because you could be there forever and a day. If you were to rank tax on it's own, it's quite high in the UK and lower in the US. If you were to look at the big picture, £500 a month pays my healthcare, if I lived in America, it's over $1,000 per month. So technically, you're paying £-$6,000 a year more than me. So that narrows the tax gap if you pay for health insurance in the US.

Also, our public transport is subsidized by tax, we pay less here for trains and buses. So if you both in the US and UK, the tax gap narrows.

So tax is not clear cut. You would have to cover every expense and income stream inject to tax in both countries to move beyond focusing on just tax.

As for Human Rights, what about HR's? It wants to be abolished and replaced with common sense because criminals end up with more Rights than the victim.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I have insurance so all I pay is my premium and mine is nowhere near 1000 a month.

and 500 pounds is about $610 a month so you're really only whining about less than $400 a month

The figures are average. The average American pays $1,000, the average Brit paid approx £500 per month in tax. In both countries, some pay more, some pay less.

I'm a director of my own Limited company. So I can declare the Lower Earnings Limit as a wage, that means no National Insurance payments (towards state pension) and no income tax. And because it's a poor wage, the government pay me £250 per month to top my wage up. So if I kinda had to guess and delete all that off the £500 contribution to the NHS, I'll be close to break even for health care. The joys of knowing tax law in the UK! Oh, I can take £4,500 out of the business for running my care, that lowers company profit, it lowers the corporation tax bill. So I'm definitely beyond breakeven, but, I live in a high tax country? I bet you wish you did, lol.

 

[Blues Man]

The figures are average. The average American pays $1,000, the average Brit paid approx £500 per month in tax. In both countries, some pay more, some pay less.

I'm a director of my own Limited company. So I can declare the Lower Earnings Limit as a wage, that means no National Insurance payments (towards state pension) and no income tax. And because it's a poor wage, the government pay me £250 per month to top my wage up. So if I kinda had to guess and delete all that off the £500 contribution to the NHS, I'll be close to break even for health care. The joys of knowing tax law in the UK! Oh, I can take £4,500 out of the business for running my care, that lowers company profit, it lowers the corporation tax bill. So I'm definitely beyond breakeven, but, I live in a high tax country? I bet you wish you did, lol.

Still whining about $400 a month huh

I really don't give a single fuck how much you pay for health care.

All my health insurance was a business write off for me as I provided it through my property management business's LLC as an employee benefit and I was the only employee.

Even people who don't own a business can write off portions of their health care costs

 

[Captain Caveman]

Still whining about $400 a month huh

I really don't give a single fuck how much you pay for health care.

All my health insurance was a business write off for me as I provided it through my property management business's LLC as an employee benefit and I was the only employee.

Even people who don't own a business can write off portions of their health care costs

No whines here mate, just information. If you take the average cost in America v UK, you guys are better off paying on average £500 per month instead of $1,000. That means on you will all be covered for half the price. Again, some will pay less or more than the averages.

You should whine to your government you want to save $6,000 per year, and have no crap about out-of-pocket costs that makes you bankrupt.

The comparison can only be done on average as everyone's circumstances are different.

Go private in the UK if you want, BUPA. But unless you can put that through the books of your business, it's an extra cost on top of the taxes you pay. Companies normally give BUPA as a perk of the job for certain staff.

 

[Blues Man]

No whines here mate, just information. If you take the average cost in America v UK, you guys are better off paying on average £500 per month instead of $1,000. That means on you will all be covered for half the price. Again, some will pay less or more than the averages.

You should whine to your government you want to save $6,000 per year, and have no crap about out-of-pocket costs that makes you bankrupt.

Yeah don't care.

I'll take what I have and pay a little more for health insurance ( but really not that much more) and not give up my freedom of speech, I'll read any book I want, carry any pocket knife I want and protect my home with any gun I want.

All that is worth a fuck of a lot more than a few hundred a month extra for health insurance

 

[Blues Man]

Why this American will never consider moving to the UK

A comparison of American and English Civil Liberties

This is a long blog post. Can you summarise it in a line? I can. The United Kingdom, and specifically England, is not a free country. When quoting Winston Churchill or the Bible verbatim on a stree…

prestonbyrne.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why this American will never consider moving to the UK

A comparison of American and English Civil Liberties

This is a long blog post. Can you summarise it in a line? I can. The United Kingdom, and specifically England, is not a free country. When quoting Winston Churchill or the Bible verbatim on a stree…

prestonbyrne.com

There is no country in Europe I would move to.

We looked into Malta when looking for places to go when we retire but only because English is an official language, dismissed it rather quickly.

 

[Captain Caveman]

There is no country in Europe I would move to.

We looked into Malta when looking for places to go when we retire but only because English is an official language, dismissed it rather quickly.

We like Gran Canary, winter holiday in late November. Pleasant temperatures and warm sea. Considered moving abroad, thought about Canada and New Zealand, but decided to stay here. Not struck on Europe either.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yeah don't care.

I'll take what I have and pay a little more for health insurance ( but really not that much more) and not give up my freedom of speech, I'll read any book I want, carry any pocket knife I want and protect my home with any gun I want.

All that is worth a fuck of a lot more than a few hundred a month extra for health insurance

Can't help you there, you're just defaulting back the same ole clichés. Set a thread up somewhere to cover your clichés as opposed to derailing here.

 

[Blues Man]

Can't help you there, you're just defaulting back the same ole clichés. Set a thread up somewhere to cover your clichés as opposed to derailing here.

Yeah liberty is a cliche to you serfs. Just because you are all infantilized you think everyone else should be

There is nothing your crowded little island monarchy can offer that would make any but a few Americans want to leave this country for yours.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We like Gran Canary, winter holiday in late November. Pleasant temperatures and warm sea.

Seems a nice place to visit, not for living full time.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This guy is a dumbass.

Now we see Israel understanding our 2nd Amendment

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yeah liberty is a cliche to you serfs. Just because you are all infantilized you think everyone else should be

There is nothing your crowded little island monarchy can offer that would make any but a few Americans want to leave this country for yours.

Hey, just received a text off HMRC. They're sending me £300 for cost of living for declaring a low wage. Never mind breaking even on healthcare cost, I'm in credit. How's it going in cheap tax USA?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Seems a nice place to visit, not for living full time.

Would be nice to retire there. Slow pace of life, warm, and nice seafood.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

There is no country in Europe I would move to.

We looked into Malta when looking for places to go when we retire but only because English is an official language, dismissed it rather quickly.

What was your issue with Malta?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Well, kinda had to work out which part of the forum to start this thread.

Basically, the American in this video has been living abroad for 12 years and he covers such areas as Health, Education, Guns, Freedom and so on. Actually, quite a few areas of the "US Discussion" part of the forum.

Not only I found what he had to say interesting, but also the comments. And as I read the comments, I can relate to how these match the posters comments on USMB who are from outside of America.





Now, there's a chance this thread will move from this part of the forum, but I thought it was the most appropriate place.

Would be interesting to hear what you guys think. I know that many will just diss the video without watching it, but I'm sure there should be the odd useful post.

I found his thoughts on Freedom, Health Care, and Education very interesting.

Anyone in America who believes they’re better off in another country is free to move there.

But everyone immigrates to America.

Hell, I’ve never been able to even get a socialist to name a better nation, let alone move there.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Anyone in America who believes they’re better off in another country is free to move there.

But everyone immigrates to America.

Hell, I’ve never been able to even get a socialist to name a better nation, let alone move there.

Which countries have you been to, especially for any length of time

 

[Weatherman2020]

Which countries have you been to, especially for any length of time

20 nations.
Extended time in Mexico, Israel, El Salvador, Cambodia, Germany.

My statement stands even if I never left my house.

 

[Captain Caveman]

20 nations.
Extended time in Mexico, Israel, El Salvador, Cambodia, Germany.

My statement stands even if I never left my house.

Ah ok, one those types of reply.

There's no harm in knowing that different countries do somethings better than your own country, it happens.

Your statement stands for you, maybe for some others too, but certainly not for everyone.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Ah ok, one those types of reply.

There's no harm in knowing that different countries do somethings better than your own country, it happens.

Your statement stands for you, maybe for some others too, but certainly not for everyone.

My statement is fact. Everyone prefers to immigrate to America and no socialist will ever state which nation is better than America.